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[Chari]

Oh, another chantry-hater, we don't see many of such these days...

 

In my case either positive, or neutral. Passive-aggressive at worst

 

I accept all religions, it's some of their followers I fight with

[Revelat0]

Ideally, my inquisitor will treat the Chantry like any other institution, so long as they don't force their beliefs on people, and are accepting or at least tolerant of other's beliefs I don't have a big deal with them.

[Jaison1986]

Oh, more people think the Chantry is hated for being an religion, rather then, IDK, an religion using their beliefs as an excuse to abuse people? Perish the thought.

 

I'm going to be an mage Inquisitor. I expect most of my encounters with templars to end with an happy go lucky rampage. I also fully expect Cassandra and Cullen to rage quit at some point.

[Revelat0]

Oh, more people think the Chantry is hated for being an religion, rather then, IDK, an religion using their beliefs as an excuse to abuse people? Perish the thought.

 

I'm going to be an mage Inquisitor. I expect most of my encounters with templars to end with an happy go lucky rampage. I also fully expect Cassandra and Cullen to rage quit at some point.

Right, that's what I disagree with about the Chantry, but utterly removing the Chantry from the equation is equal to using your own belief to suppress something you disagree with. So the answer is let people believe what they want to... as long as they don't force it on others.

[jlb524]

My Inquisitor: Chantry bad.

[Jaison1986]

Right, that's what I disagree with about the Chantry, but utterly removing the Chantry from the equation is equal to using your own belief to suppress something you disagree with. So the answer is let people believe what they want to... as long as they don't force it on others.

 

See, that's the problem. So far, the members of the Chantry have been shown to be extremely intolerant of any other type of belief. Would they allow people to live peacefully around them while following different religions? In Rivain they approved the slaughter of civilians because they choose to live by the qun and refused to convert. Unless they finally decide to change and finally realize the world doesn't belong to them, the Chantry probally won't have an place in this new world Thedas is becoming during the events of Inquisiton, because I expect a lot of things to change after seeing so many crisis happening at the same time.

[AshenEndymion]

So far, the members of the Chantry have been shown to be extremely intolerant of any other type of belief. Would they allow people to live peacefully around them while following different religions?

 

Should be pointed out that, as intolerant as the Chantry demonstrates itself to be, the Chantry is still more tolerant than every other religion in Thedas shown thus far...

[Panda]

I have 4 quizzys planned so:

 

Skye: Chantry can stay but they need to stop being such meanies to mages and elves, she wants chantry to be reformed to more accepting.

 

Valpur: Chantry is okay as long as it stays out of her way. She will try to ignore it.

 

Tamarin: Chantry can be used and it's good for order so it can stay. But it shouldn't interfere with his plans.

 

Michal: Chantry is awesome and it's religion is only right one. He will aid chantry a lot. If everything goes as I'd like to, I'd want him first being very oblivious about Chantry's flaws and then realising them in the end game and wanting to reform Chantry better as well.

[CrimsonN7]

Will be playing as a Dalish first time round so she won't care for this Shem organization. I'll strive to be as openly hostile as I can be towards them like any respectable Dalish should be.

[cjones91]

For Mage,Elven,Dwarven,and Qunari Inquistors?Detached.

[raging_monkey]

As a mage player ive had a begrudging respect for them understanding why they do what they do, so ive always had passive-aggressive relationship doubt that change i just want end to the mage-templar crap

[Ynqve]

I'll be very pro mage and elf so I'll oppose the Chantry. I suppose I could end up supporting a reformed Chantry with limited power. Until then, I'll be a calmer, less violent Anders. I won't blow up any buildings, but I'll take every opportunity to confront them about their stance on mages and elves. 

[RobRam10]

Death to the Orlesian Chatry!

[AlexiaRevan]

I plan on playing as Qunari Mage . So the only thing that matter....would be : IF you can face the chantry and survive , the Qun should be a piece of cake lol 

If I play as a warrior and religious . I probably be like the Templar that let Hawke and his family escape . I will end up trying to reform the order from within . 

[Potato Cat]

My first Inquisitor will be an elf, and reluctantly supportive of the Chantry. Unlike some it seems, she actually wants to stop that pesky Breach and recognises that arguably the most powerful organisation in mainland Thedas would make a good ally in closing that thing.

[Medhia_Nox]

My Human Mage Inquisitor will view the Chantry as just another faction in Thedas. 

 

He's not Andrastian, though he respects her historical deeds, and he does appreciate the Chant of Light as a philosophical text.

 

As for his relationship, it depends entirely on their efforts to close the Breach and the demon invasion from Thedas.  If they're on board, then great!  Give me backing via money, soldiers, support and I'll close the Breaches.   Don't want to help?  Then stand aside.  Get in my way?  I'll crush you. 

 

Were the game capable of such distinctions - I'd have a Chapel in Skyhold for the devout.  I'd allow a Reverend Mother to attend it and hold services.  I'd celebrate Andrastian holidays at the Hold.  Though I'd rarely, if ever, attend any such thing.  The people should be respected, and if the people hold Andrastianism sacred, I should respect that.

 

My goal here is not to fight for anything other than the closing of the Breach.  That being said, I am not blind to advantage when it can be safely obtained without undermining my main goal.  If the Chantry can be swayed toward Reform for the Circles, then I will press the advantage.  If the Chantry can be swayed toward greater religious tolerance, I would press that point.  If the Chantry could be swayed toward civil rights issues like the City Elves - that too, I would try to convince them of, but none of that takes precedence over the sealing of the Veil and expulsion of demons.

[Lee80]

In an ideal  game world mages wouldn't have ever been treated like a second class race of people, and religion would have never been brought into the game.  However, since that's not the case I'll try to answer the question.

 

Some of my characters will be anti chantry and for their sake I hope they don't have to deal with them at all or perhaps can actively work against the organization.  I may do a few characters who are pro chantry (with reforms in mind) though.  Hard to say how it'll all work out till we have the game in our hands. 

[Vilegrim]

They would encounter me the same way a sentence encounters a full stop.

[Devil's Avocado]

I would hope for a neutral approach, where the Chantry is still around, just not with so much power. I also feel from what we've heard from the chant, it's meaning gets twisted/interpreted in various ways so I would simply want to interpret it in my own way, to my own Quizzy's advantages. 

[Medhia_Nox]

@Jaison1986:  So you also hate Tevinter, Ferelden, Orlais, the Qunari, the Dwarves, the Dalish, Blood magic, spirits/demons and any and all other organizations on Thedas - since none of them are exempt from corruption and sanctioned abuse of others.

 

I suspect you'll have all sorts of excuses for the ones you like - and that's natural.

 

It's not the hate that shows people's bias... it's the excuses made for the things they like that show real bias.

[LobselVith8]

@Jaison1986:  So you also hate Tevinter, Ferelden, Orlais, the Qunari, the Dwarves, the Dalish, Blood magic, spirits/demons and any and all other organizations on Thedas - since none of them are exempt from corruption and sanctioned abuse of others.

 

I suspect you'll have all sorts of excuses for the ones you like - and that's natural.

 

It's not the hate that shows people's bias... it's the excuses made for the things they like that show real bias.

 

There are plenty of people who have expressed a dislike of Tevinter and Orlais as they are now, and some people are more lenient towards Ferelden because the newly crowned King Alistair makes attempts to improve things, like electing to bring the hahren of the Alienage into the royal court so the elves have representation, even if it causes controversy among the humans. As for the Qunari, plenty of people have condemned the Qun, and I don't recall many people supporting the caste system for Orzammar - in fact, it seemed to be one of the main reasons why some people crowned Bhelen as King.

 

Blood magic is a school of magic, so I don't even know why you're including that on the same level as an organization of people, particularly as Jason seemed to take issue with what the Chantry has done, and is doing. Spirits are another example that don't really make sense - are beings from another plane of existence who are alien in comparison to sentient mortals from Thedas supposed to be comparable to an organization of men and women?

[Elfquisitor]

In an ideal game there will be no mages, or the chantry will hunt down the remaning. I would gladly put the Templars as a head of the chantry.

[Lady Luminous]

Non-existant? Lol. But no, I'll be making it very obvious that the chantry is the last place I want to be. I spit on your maker!

[Darkly Tranquil]

My Inquisitor holds no love for the Chantry, seeing them as one of the groups responsible for the current crisis, but his antipathy is not so strong that he will not work with them if that is what is necessary to end the threat of the Fade breaches. He won't go out of his way to do them any favours (nor will he favour any other faction; he blames them all) and he won't shed a tear if at the end of it all the Chantry is a far less influential force than it is currently.

[DuskWanderer]

Ideally, I'd want to weaken the Chantry considerably, no matter which race I play as. Templars serve a necessary role: Demons do exist and due to their nature, mages are at great risk of being corrupted by them. To ignore this, as Anders and the Libertarians act, is beyond foolish. 

 

However, the Chantry conditions the Templars to treat it as if they are holy warriors and mages are unholy creatures. Bad mages exist, but it is the demons that wholly cause trouble: Supposedly "good" spirits don't seek out mortals, and only do in rare occurences. 

 

if the Templars could be reformed to the role they were meant to be: Guardians of mages from persecution by others and from demons, then it would be fine. Too many mages go to blood magic to ignore their role. 

 

This can't be done without a complete restructuring of the Chantry.