It would be great if some movies had more straight than gay characters and some movies had more gay than straight characters.For other media too.
But the thing is that the representation is almost always in favour of the straight characters with little to no exception.
We do need more representation of non-straight characters in media, but said media does not need to have a completely equal number of non straight couples/characters/options to be good representation.
The horns aren't my problem, it's mostly his little weenie half moustache that bothers me, lol
How could I forget that? 
I'm very interested in finding out the story reason for Solas being an elf only romance. I'm hoping it is something that makes sense based on what we know about his character and history, rather than something that comes up in conversation. I can't image that conversation sounding very natural.
I still think the odd are higher on Vivienne being the last LI to keep the genders vaguely even.
Crossing all my fingers that she is bi or gay, I think 3/2/3 or 3/3/2 is better than 4/2/2
Plus, on a selfish note, I think she looks gorgeous so if she is straight that means I'll have to have 3 male Inquisitors
(Cass & Dorian 
) which is a lot more male characters than I usually run.
The funny thing is that straighties will be getting more than DA 2, with three romances and "the gays" only two, which is the same as DA 2.
Ironic that the most whining comes from again and again, from people saying bioware panders to "the gays" and somehow they still get more option that "the gays". If I see one more person complain about the lack of straight options, I am gonna to flip.
Just fairness on sexuality. Funny, you agreed on a poster seeing straight Viv a while ago and now you have a problem with me wanting Viv to be gay?
I never said I was happy for Viv being straight, I just said I could see it. I rather have Vivienne bi actually, chill.
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It would be great if some movies had more straight than gay characters and some movies had more gay than straight characters.For other media too.
But the thing is that the representation is almost always in favour of the straight characters with little to no exception.
I agree its a shame and thats why I appreciate Bioware for giving us the option to play as a gay Protagonist
I mean it will be a long time (if at all) until we see a gay Assassin protagonist the video game industry sadly isn't ready (just look at the hateful comments when Bioware announced Dorian
It would be great if some movies had more straight than gay characters and some movies had more gay than straight characters.For other media too.
But the thing is that the representation is almost always in favour of the straight characters with little to no exception.
Well, I'm all for acceptance for everyone, but I think it would be kinda strange if half of the characters in the media who had a defined sexual preference were portrayed as gay, considering that the demographics don't remotely approach that breakdown.
Since Solas is both straight and race gaited I assume the last female (most likely Vivienne) will also be locked to straight characters and most likely human only.
So out of 9 romance options there's only TWO male>female options if you aren't human? Cassandra and Jospehine?
Seems like even though there's more "romances" in DA:I in total there's a lot more restrictions and thus less actual options for you to pick from, and os far from both the past games and videos/info we have I don't really care for the ones we do have.
Always liked the tough women (like Jack in Mass Effect) or Morrigan, now that option is only for women 
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Always liked the tough women (like Jack in Mass Effect) or Morrigan, now that option is only for women
What are you talking about? Cassandra is straight.
*bah*
IB looks weird to me.....a face and head too small for his body. A weird triangular face. And Horns that make him look like a species of Texan cattle instead of a Qunari.
(no wonder the Qun sent him to spy....he looks like a Qunari mated with a cow)
No thank you ma'am as far as an IB romance is concerned.
Unless he's quite different looking than what I've seen already,...he will be one romance I won't touch. I'd be continually expecting him to say "Moooo" during a romance scene.
Since Solas is both straight and race gaited I assume the last female (most likely Vivienne) will also be locked to straight characters and most likely human only.
So out of 9 romance options there's only TWO male>female options if you aren't human? Cassandra and Jospehine?
Seems like even though there's more "romances" in DA:I in total there's a lot more restrictions and thus less actual options for you to pick from, and os far from both the past games and videos/info we have I don't really care for the ones we do have.
Always liked the tough women (like Jack in Mass Effect) or Morrigan, now that option is only for women
What are you talking about? you have Cassandra the tough one and more option than most, so.....?
It's a shame that the current options for the romance setup are:
Unequal representation between genders (blackwall is gay/bi romance)
Unequal representation between genders and sexuallities (blackwall is a straight romance)
Unequal representation between sexuallities (Vivienne is a romance)
I'm very interested in finding out the story reason for Solas being an elf only romance. I'm hoping it is something that makes sense based on what we know about his character and history, rather than something that comes up in conversation. I can't image that conversation sounding very natural.
I still think the odd are higher on Vivienne being the last LI to keep the genders vaguely even.
Crossing all my fingers that she is bi or gay, I think 3/2/3 or 3/3/2 is better than 4/2/2
Plus, on a selfish note, I think she looks gorgeous so if she is straight that means I'll have to have 3 male Inquisitors
(Cass & Dorian
Haha same/opposite case here, although I do hope for a bi/gay Blackwall, I'd have to have 3 female inquisitors (Cullen, Sera and Solas), and I usually don't like playing with a female PC but... again... Cullen, Sera, Solas...
I never said I was happy for Viv being straight, I just said I could see it. I rather have Vivienne bi actually, chill.
First you accused me of doing some anti-male revenge scheming (dat wording if i ever saw any) and now you tell me to chill? Wow. I was pretty chill until that post of yours. 
It's a shame that the current options for the romance setup are:
Unequal representation between genders (blackwall is gay/bi romance)
Unequal representation between genders and sexuallities (blackwall is a straight romance)
Unequal representation between sexuallities (Vivienne is a romance)
It's between a rock and a hard place imo.
Because ... he's an elf? Is it really racist to be mainly attracted to your own species?
Not only that, but if an Elf has a child with a Human that child is not Elven (we they are and aren't, they don't get the pointed ears and they look Human). Solas might want to only be with another Elf because he wants his race to thrive again.
Since Solas is both straight and race gaited I assume the last female (most likely Vivienne) will also be locked to straight characters and most likely human only.
So out of 9 romance options there's only TWO male>female options if you aren't human? Cassandra and Jospehine?
Seems like even though there's more "romances" in DA:I in total there's a lot more restrictions and thus less actual options for you to pick from, and os far from both the past games and videos/info we have I don't really care for the ones we do have.
Always liked the tough women (like Jack in Mass Effect) or Morrigan, now that option is only for women
There was a Gaider quote which heavily implies that Solas (when he was unrevealed) and the last LI are not both race-gated. So I think it's more likely that it's one of the 4 "revealed" LI's (and likely the same gender as the last LI).
There was a Gaider quote which heavily implies that Solas (when he was unrevealed) and the last LI are not both race-gated. So I think it's more likely that it's one of the 4 "revealed" LI's (and likely the same gender as the last LI).
I couldn't imagine Vivienne romancing elves and qunari.
Think of the political scandal.The nobles would be talking...
You know, if we take our expectations off and try to view our followers as actual people in a world with their own personalities, own idiosyncrasies and own quirk, we would see that it does not make any sense for them to have love and romantic choices that caters to us or rather, caters to the Inquisitor's whim. It would not make sense for them to be equal since they are their own characters, not just Inquisitor's playthings.
Before anyone comes and labels me as homophobe or anti-equalist or whatever labels they want to, my planned default Inquisitor is a male Dalish elf mage who will be a bachelor. So I really have no reason to spew BS.
Which means I am not saying this out of spite or hatred, I am saying this because this is the direction Bioware wants to take their characters. They want to make them their own person as opposed to completely subscribing to a trope or an ideology. A person almost always has a mix of tropes they identify with or that others identify with.
In case of Solas, he seems to be an introverted and intellectual elf. However, this does not preclude the possibility of him being open minded intellectually does not mean he has an open view towards sexuality. That is neither a bad thing nor a good thing, its just his thing. Its Solas' thing.
As for the last romance option, it would most likely be Vivienne and she will be gated towards male only. Not because of lack of equality but because that is Vivienne and that is what she is. From Vivienne's drive to be ambitious and climb up the political ladder, it makes sense that she pick the human noble man as a love interest because they can help her further her political goals.
Cheers.
Haha same/opposite case here, although I do hope for a bi/gay Blackwall, I'd have to have 3 female inquisitors (Cullen, Sera and Solas), and I usually don't like playing with a female PC but... again... Cullen, Sera, Solas...
hahahaha 
If the genders for the LIs were more even I'd love to have Blackwall as possible LI, I love me some facial hair.
I normally only roll a man to romance the straight girl, my male Warden was for Morrigan and I had no male Hawke, so I was sure my only male Inquisitor would be for Cass and then Dorian was revealed
You know, if we take our expectations off and try to view our followers as actual people in a world with their own personalities, own idiosyncrasies and own quirk, we would see that it does not make any sense for them to have love and romantic choices that caters to us or rather, caters to the Inquisitor's whim. It would not make sense for them to be equal since they are their own characters, not just Inquisitor's playthings.
Before anyone comes and labels me as homophobe or anti-equalist or whatever labels they want to, my planned default Inquisitor is a male Dalish elf mage who will be a bachelor. So I really have no reason to spew BS.
Which means I am not saying this out of spite or hatred, I am saying this because this is the direction Bioware wants to take their characters. They want to make them their own person as opposed to completely subscribing to a trope or an ideology. A person almost always has a mix of tropes they identify with or that others identify with.
In case of Solas, he seems to be an introverted and intellectual elf. However, this does not preclude the possibility of him being open minded intellectually does not mean he has an open view towards sexuality. That is neither a bad thing nor a good thing, its just his thing. Its Solas' thing.
As for the last romance option, it would most likely be Vivienne and she will be gated towards male only. Not because of lack of equality but because that is Vivienne and that is what she is. From Vivienne's drive to be ambitious and climb up the political ladder, it makes sense that she pick the human noble man as a love interest because they can help her further her political goals.
Cheers.
I don't think you're offensive at all.I'd hope to romance all the things with my gay Inquisitor ,it's a personal choice.
The problem I have with the argument "Characters are people, not numbers, it doesn't matter if they are all gay or straight" is that in most cases they are exclusively being represented as straight in all of gaming.If they truly did make characters like that, we'd have games with characters that are all gays, vice versa and various combos in-between.
The truth is that devs simply don't make characters in that way, they just mostly make straight characters (I'm not talking about Bioware).
First you accused me of doing some anti-male revenge scheming (dat wording if i ever saw any) and now you tell me to chill? Wow. I was pretty chill until that post of yours.
Naw, I just saw that you were pressing this Viv being gay thing kind of hard, I meant no offense. I don't see how Vivienne being lesbian makes it fair.
You know, if we take our expectations off and try to view our followers as actual people in a world with their own personalities, own idiosyncrasies and own quirk, we would see that it does not make any sense for them to have love and romantic choices that caters to us or rather, caters to the Inquisitor's whim. It would not make sense for them to be equal since they are their own characters, not just Inquisitor's playthings.
Before anyone comes and labels me as homophobe or anti-equalist or whatever labels they want to, my planned default Inquisitor is a male Dalish elf mage who will be a bachelor. So I really have no reason to spew BS.
Which means I am not saying this out of spite or hatred, I am saying this because this is the direction Bioware wants to take their characters. They want to make them their own person as opposed to completely subscribing to a trope or an ideology. A person almost always has a mix of tropes they identify with or that others identify with.
In case of Solas, he seems to be an introverted and intellectual elf. However, this does not preclude the possibility of him being open minded intellectually does not mean he has an open view towards sexuality. That is neither a bad thing nor a good thing, its just his thing. Its Solas' thing.
As for the last romance option, it would most likely be Vivienne and she will be gated towards male only. Not because of lack of equality but because that is Vivienne and that is what she is. From Vivienne's drive to be ambitious and climb up the political ladder, it makes sense that she pick the human noble man as a love interest because they can help her further her political goals.
Cheers.
Ugh. So are you implying that Vivienne is bisexual but will only be with a man? Or that she's choosing to be straight for political purposes? Or that, magically, because she was destined to be ambitious, she was genetically straight?
Plus, giant flaw in your logic.........Celene is a lesbian. Wouldn't it make most sense for Vivienne to be a lesbian, given your scenario?
Also, I think it's just as easy to see a story driven reason why Vivienne would not be an LI as Blackwall. And I could just as easily see a story driven reason why Blackwall would be an LI.
Additionally, if you think Vivienne would only be with a man politically in order to create a baby.
Why would she want to be married and have children with a non-noble millitary leader?
I have yet to see any evidence that being gay would be seen as a negative in Orlesian noble culture. The only reason Celene's affair was potentially scandalous was because she was sleeping with an elf.
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