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Solas confirmed as a romance (elf only)


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#376
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Is this a personal preference thing involving romance or an actual "I'd forgive the viewpoint if they were the other gender" thing?

 

More of a "I'd find this viewpoinit not as distasteful if they were the other gender." thing cause of my personal preferences. Not forgiving as much as being less repulsed.



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Right now it does seem like straight females are going to have the least amount of options. Only Solas, who is race-gated, and Iron Bull. Oh yeh Cullen but he's not a companion, which is what I mean.

 

Making Blackwall bisexual would fix this and also increase representation. Plus bearded men should be available to everyone

If qunari could grow facial hair...I would grow a beard for you....just sayin :wub:


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#378
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That's exactly what IRL racists believe about, say, the "white" race. This argument just amounts to saying that the racists at Stomfront would be totally in the right about preserving the purity of the race if it turned out race wasn't just a social construct.


So an argument based on empirical fact with actual consequence beyond simply physical traits has more weight than an argument based on illogical and purely emotional reasons?

Go figure.

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Why do you see gender as making a difference? 

 

It just does for me.



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Right now it does seem like straight females are going to have the least amount of options. Only Solas, who is race-gated, and Iron Bull. Oh yeh Cullen but he's not a companion, which is what I mean.

 

Making Blackwall bisexual would fix this and also increase representation. Plus bearded men should be available to everyone

 

I don't know about this. I feel quite spoiled for choice. Regardless of race, I've got 3 to choose from, two of whom are companions. My privilege is most definitely showing.


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I love this thread

 

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#382
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If qunari could grow facial hair...I would grow a beard for you....just sayin :wub:

But they can did you never played Mark of the Assassin dlc?



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Right now it does seem like straight females are going to have the least amount of options. Only Solas, who is race-gated, and Iron Bull. Oh yeh Cullen but he's not a companion, which is what I mean.

 

Making Blackwall bisexual would fix this and also increase representation. Plus bearded men should be available to everyone

 

Josephine isn't a companion either.



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It seems as though many people here only play characters that fall in line with that player's own gender and/or sexual preference. This is a totally valid way to play, but it saddens me that so many ppl are missing out on the incredible fun of role playing as someone that the player could never possibly be.


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I feel sorry for the folks that refuse to play as a different race/gender/sexual orientation. As for me I'm glad I can roleplay as anyone I want to.


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Right now it does seem like straight females are going to have the least amount of options. Only Solas, who is race-gated, and Iron Bull. Oh yeh Cullen but he's not a companion, which is what I mean.

 

Making Blackwall bisexual would fix this and also increase representation. Plus bearded men should be available to everyone

 

By all reports Companion and Advisor romances will have the same amount of content so Cullen can't be discounted. Meaning that Straight women have 3 possible options.

 

There is also another race gated character out there and it's not necessarily the last LI. I could see Cass being race gated not because of anything to do with her personality but because she seems like the most logical choice of the known LIs

 

We know Josephine and Iron Bull are open to everyone, I doubt Cullen will be race gated because Solas is & having two straight men race gated isn't likely. Sera and Dorian are unlikely to be race gated because are the only gay characters so that leaves us with either Cass or the last LI as race gated.



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I feel sorry for the folks that refuse to play as a different race/gender/sexual orientation. As for me I'm glad I can roleplay as anyone I want to.

 

Same here. I am leaning towards playing a female dwarf in my playthrough.



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hahahaha well now that there is only one LI left to announce it does seem like a competition.  :P


If only all of us could win... haha good luck! *shakes hand firmly*
I hope if VIvi is the LI, at least she will be bi/gay?

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It seems as though many people here only play characters that fall in line with that player's own gender and/or sexual preference. This is a totally valid way to play, but it saddens me that so many ppl are missing out on the incredible fun of role playing as someone that the player could never possibly be.

 

Self hating Blood Mage elf was fun in DA:O.


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Self hating Blood Mage elf was fun in DA:O.

XD

 

Most of my mages were a wee insane in DAO. I must admit my bloodthirsty bloodmage was particularly fun. He was such a loon.


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So an argument based on empirical fact with actual consequence beyond simply physical traits has more weight than an argument based on illogical and purely emotional reasons?

Go figure.

 

There's a fair amount of evidence the IRL racists can point to in defence of their belief that race exists as more than a social construct, and there are legitimate scientists (namely geneticists) out there who support the view. It's certainly not in the majority, but it is not an out of this world view. There are a number of things the social construct view has to succeed in explaining away, particularly that IRL racial categories can be identified via gene clusters. 

 

The idea that "elf" is some sort of metaphysically meaningful category has no basis in the DA lore. The only thing that has a basis is the fact that elves can't produce prototypical elves with non-elves. 

 

But to say something like - only the children of two elf parents can be called elves - requires importing a lot of the same kind of assumptions that go into making race a social construct. Importing moral values, like the fact that there is some worth in overriding individual choice to propagate this phenotype, is purely the same sort of moral judgement IRL racists will make. 

 

Fantasy races don't avoid any of the IRL race problems, other than the fact that some people think racism wouldn't be racism if races were real rather than social constructs. 



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XD

 

Most of my mages were a wee insane in DAO. I must admit my bloodthirsty bloodmage was particularly fun. He was such a loon.

 

Oh I know! I only wish I could have used magic instead of the holy murder knife to complete my work.



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But they can did you never played Mark of the Assassin dlc?

No i missed out on that one.  I played DA2, but aside from loving the Arishok I pretty much just let it collect dust.



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Technically its xenophobic, I think. Since we are talking about a different species here.

I don't see how it's xenophobic either,I mean heaven forbid a elf might be soley attracted to elves.



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Oh, let me just make it clear that I am all in favor of having more women into the big gaming titles. But its around 70% to 80% for a lot of shooters. Other games vary. I'm was just stating that the article about most women being gamers is misleading since they are not the majority on the big titles.

 

I'm more just curious where you're actually getting the numbers from.


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We know Josephine and Iron Bull are open to everyone, I doubt Cullen will be race gated because Solas is & having two straight men race gated isn't likely. Sera and Dorian are unlikely to be race gated because are the only gay characters so that leaves us with either Cass or the last LI as race gated.

 

Exactly. And of the two remaining companions. Vivienne seems most likely to be the remaining LI in order for there to be two straight LIs for both males and females.



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Oh I know! I only wish I could have used magic instead of the holy murder knife to complete my work.

 

Seriously! I'd loved being able to roast some people the way Ketojan does himself. That'd been so good.
 



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If only all of us could win... haha good luck! *shakes hand firmly*
I hope if VIvi is the LI, at least she will be bi/gay?

I hope Viv will be bi, because I want as many people to have options as possible, but it really does drive home how gay men have always been Bioware's lowest priority and continue to be. 


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Seriously! I'd loved being able to roast some people the way Ketojan does himself. That'd been so good.
 

 

Aww yeah. Maybe DAI will let us kill people with something more appropriate to our chosen class...

 

Ahh dare to dream.


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If only all of us could win... haha good luck! *shakes hand firmly*
I hope if VIvi is the LI, at least she will be bi/gay?

 

:P if only we all could.

 

Good Luck to you too and if Blackwall is the last LI, I hope he is bi or gay.

 

Personally I think most fans will win something if the last LI is bi no matter who it is 


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