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With the release of the Dragon Age Keep video, I thought it might be fun to discuss the possible consequences for our choices, big and small.

 

I am curious as to how who we chose to rule ferelden will effect the state of the country now; I for one hope I don't get bit in the a** for putting Alistair on the throne alone.



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Alistair is writer's pet(i joke) but yeah i can just imagine giving the fereldan circle automony didnt go well lol

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That red-headed kid you talked to in Lothering is in fact the big bad and if you hadn't talked to him he'd never have decided to destroy Thedas. Whoops.


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With the release of the Dragon Age Keep video, I thought it might be fun to discuss the possible consequences for our choices, big and small.

 

I am curious as to how who we chose to rule ferelden will effect the state of the country now; I for one hope I don't get bit in the a** for putting Alistair on the throne alone.

 

I'm a bit disappointed freeing the Circle and giving the Dalish their own land didn't get carried over as a choice.



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That red-headed kid you talked to in Lothering is in fact the big bad and if you hadn't talked to him he'd never have decided to destroy Thedas. Whoops.

 

 

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Depending on who you had marry Teagan, he has either been killed horrifically, or become the greatest swordsman who ever lived.

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I'm a bit disappointed freeing the Circle and giving the Dalish their own land didn't get carried over as a choice.

I feel for ya man



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I'm a bit disappointed freeing the Circle and giving the Dalish their own land didn't get carried over as a choice.


Those two boons already got retconed, and as you can see in DA:II it didn't go well.

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Those two boons already got retconed, and as you can see in DA:II it didn't go well.

 

Yeah, but I'd still like for them to have been mentioned/dealt with.



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I want to see more of what happens to Connor. My Warden was worried about him. 



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Yeah, but I'd still like for them to have been mentioned/dealt with.


I would like to see it too, and I hope at least our choices will be matter somehow.

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I was really surprised when I also saw what I considered to be very insignificant sidequests in the Keep.

 

 

For example Elora's halla??? What possible consequence could come out of that? It's just a halla from 10 years ago. Will Elora show up and say "Hello, the warden cured my halla." Is it really worth it for that extra line? or not everything in the keep will get mentioned in DAI?

 

If you saved Connor and who is on the throne are big decisions and some minor decisions at least made it to the DAO ending slides (like Dagna and people from Redcliffe) but Elora's halla was never mentioned after that. I really don't know what to make of it :huh:



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Drinking Avernus' Alchemical Concoction may have some sort of consequence. Like the Taint corruption progresses faster or slower since it "enhances" the power of the Taint within you.



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I was really surprised when I also saw what I considered to be very insignificant sidequests in the Keep.

 

 

For example Elora's halla??? What possible consequence could come out of that? It's just a halla from 10 years ago. Will Elora show up and say "Hello, the warden cured my halla." Is it really worth it for that extra line? or not everything in the keep will get mentioned in DAI?

 

If you saved Connor and who is on the throne are big decisions and some minor decisions at least made it to the DAO ending slides (like Dagna and people from Redcliffe) but Elora's halla was never mentioned after that. I really don't know what to make of it :huh:

 

Obviously that Halla is going to be a possible mount for elf inquisitors.


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Drinking Avernus' Alchemical Concoction may have some sort of consequence. Like the Taint corruption progresses faster or slower since it "enhances" the power of the Taint within you.


As far as I know it make the corruption's progress slower, it's one hell of a delay though.

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Obviously that Halla is going to be a possible mount for elf inquisitors.

 

That Halla is the Elder One.


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I want to see more of what happens to Connor. My Warden was worried about him.

I'm curious about Conner as well. I think it might end up being a choice that comes back to bite you in the ass, if you spared him.

If you killed Isolde/she sacrificed herself to save him, than it would be highly likely he would blame you for her death. Even if he has supposedly 'forgotten' in dao, he could have been told by the time DAI has arrived.

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not sure why so many people talk about Connor when Hawke may have planted a sominari ally.



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That red-headed kid you talked to in Lothering is in fact the big bad and if you hadn't talked to him he'd never have decided to destroy Thedas. Whoops.

 

You joke, but if ME3 is any indication - and there seems to be a lot of ME3 influence in DAI - there'll be a few unexpected consequences of past decisions.

 

For instance, in ME3,

 

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I expect a few things like that - where good choices have unexpectedly evil consequences, because life is like that.

 

On the other hand, I'm really hoping for something like Conrad Verner's last quest.  I was laughing about that one for days :)

 

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All that was only worth 4 war asset points, but the entertainment value was priceless :P

 

So I guess I'm saying that Bioware loves the laws of unintended consequences.  Alistair's no fan of the chantry - maybe he'll block the Inquisition?  Maybe some character you kept alive will show up as a villain.

 

That said, I fully expect a boss rush of abomination-Connor, abomination-Amalia, and abomination-Feynriel on my evil playthroughs :P  


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If the Warden owns the pub in Redcliffe, by the time of inquisition it becomes one of the most feared and renowned Warden fortresses in all of Thedas.



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I was really surprised when I also saw what I considered to be very insignificant sidequests in the Keep.

 

 

For example Elora's halla??? What possible consequence could come out of that? It's just a halla from 10 years ago. Will Elora show up and say "Hello, the warden cured my halla." Is it really worth it for that extra line? or not everything in the keep will get mentioned in DAI?

 

If you saved Connor and who is on the throne are big decisions and some minor decisions at least made it to the DAO ending slides (like Dagna and people from Redcliffe) but Elora's halla was never mentioned after that. I really don't know what to make of it :huh:

Well I sort of suspect that some of the decisions that are of minor consequence might be used as something of a proxy for the Warden's personality (or at least how his personality was perceived by others) since the Warden doesn't really have a set personality like Hawke's three personality options. So in the Halla example, the Dalish (assuming the clan survives) might speak more fondly of a Warden that saved the Halla than one that let it die. Sort of the difference between "That warden was a great guy, I hope we see him again someday," and "Yeah the Warden saved us, but the shem was kind of a jerk and I am glad he has gone missing." Alternatively, there could just be a stupid minor side quest about that Halla having kids if you spare it.

 

 

I'm curious about Conner as well. I think it might end up being a choice that comes back to bite you in the ass, if you spared him.

If you killed Isolde/she sacrificed herself to save him, than it would be highly likely he would blame you for her death. Even if he has supposedly 'forgotten' in dao, he could have been told by the time DAI has arrived.

Yeah, but you can spare Conner without sacrificing Isolde. Also you aren't playing the Warden anymore, so unless he has developed the ability to view beyond the 4th wall (which could be hilarious if they went this route), Connor should have no beef with the Inquisitor no matter happens in DAO.

 

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If I recall correctly, you have to make that Paragon choice if you want to maximize your War Assets, so arguably that is still the better choice.



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I expect the following consequences in this game:

+ Connor to be a mage you meet in the game and will have his own quest.

 

+ Changing dialogue to meet either Grey Warden Alistair or King Alistair.

 

+ Carver/Bethany will show up as Templars/Circle Mages or Grey Wardens in different parts of the game to back you up.

 

+ Every previous companion who survives gets their own quest, like in Mass Effect.

 

+ Leliana will claim the Urn of Sacred Ashes cured her if she died in Origins.

 

+ Sten will be the Arishok if he recovered his sword. Otherwise, he won't be.

 

+ Dagda's dialogue will be different if you helped her escape Orzamaar but she got out anyway.

 

+ The Dream Mage from Dragon Age 2 will be in Tevinter.

 

+ Zatherien's group will be met in the Dalish camp so we'll get different dialogue depending on who did what in Origins.

 

+ Merril's camp will be present or not otherwise.


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If I recall correctly, you have to make that Paragon choice if you want to maximize your War Assets, so arguably that is still the better choice.

 

If you can get the Geth and Quarians to stand down then then it doesn't matter if you destroy or rewrite the Heretics; either way one side gets an extra 150 and the other loses 150. But destroying the Heretics makes getting peace easier.


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If you can get the Geth and Quarians to stand down then then it doesn't matter if you destroy or rewrite the Heretics; either way one side gets an extra 150 and the other loses 150. But destroying the Heretics makes getting peace easier.

 

True.  But I just raised it as a point of how Bioware likes things that have unintended consequences.  Normally, trying to preserve life in that game means that you obtain allies more easily.  In that case, they tried to trip you up - it's still possible, but requires more work.

 

This series gives you *dozens* of chances to save or kill the same individual.  Sparing some people looks like it's going to bite you in the arse down the road (in my worst-of-all-worlds playthrough I have Mother Petrice, the Arishok, Gascard Dupuis, and Torpor alive by the end).  But knowing Bioware, at least one of the "good" people you save is going to have a hidden agenda, or have fallen in with a bad crowd.

 

No one would be shocked if Mother Petrice came back to do more evil.  But what if - to use the favourite example - a non-possessed Connor shows up in the Venatori?  What if Brother Genitivi turns out to be history's greatest monster and you should have killed him in the temple?  What if those three fleeing mages in the Templar run of DA2's finale were orchestrating all the blood magic in Kirkwall?    If Mass Effect 3 is any indication, we'll probably have one or two like those :P



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Speaking of Connor, I expect there to be some negative consequence to letting the demon lay dormant within him.  The game will be sending us to Redcliffe at some point, after all, and he should be... what, 17-21 by now?  I suspect he'll show up in some way no matter how we handled him... uh... excluding killing him, obviously.