Oh, I think female LIs are due for some Carth syndrome for a change
I hear that! Why is it the male LI's gotta have that kind of baggage? Give some to Cassandra! Fair is fair, after all. ;P
To be honest, I actually don't mind dead ex-lovers. Now, what I do wonder is if we'll ever get a female LI who has Thane syndrome : dying from some ailment and a dead wife. I'd cackle my arse off if this happened, not gonna lie. :3
I hear that! Why is it the male LI's gotta have that kind of baggage? Give some to Cassandra! Fair is fair, after all. ;P
To be honest, I actually don't mind dead ex-lovers. Now, what I do wonder is if we'll ever get a female LI who has Thane syndrome : dying from some ailment and a dead wife. I'd cackle my arse off if this happened, not gonna lie. :3
Only counts if they're also designed to be almost over-the-top hawt.
To be fair we shared lelianas whole deal with marjolane, that kinda counts right?Oh, I think female LIs are due for some Carth syndrome for a change
My prediction for the final racegated LI depends on who the last LI is and/or their orientation.
If Blackwall, then either him or another male LI who covers the same orientation as him(ex: if bisexual/homosexual, then him or Dorian).
If Vivienne, then Vivienne. Of all the female LIs, she is the one that makes the most sense for a variety of reasons.
Yeah I agree it will either be one of the male only LIs or the unknown LI
Let me put it this way:
When I play a fantasy RPG I usually choose to play as a male human warrior the first time, and that playthrough will be my main and canon playthrough for the whole series as "what really happened in my story". Of course I will play the game many times after my first playthrough, exploring all the possibilities, making different choices and creating several characters; and, though I will enjoy all these secondary playthroughs, I still have a main one. My point is that if you cannot romance the character you like with your main character in your main story is not cool to have to do it with a character that isn't really yours. I don't know if anybody agrees with me in this, but my first character is always the one I have in mind and the one I enjoy the most; the others, sure I will enjoy their playthroughs as well but is not the same and they are not really me.
I have an immense love towards Morrigan. Imagine that, for any reason, Morrigan couldn't be romanced by noble human males. I will be pissed off I can tell you, because my main/real/canon character couldn't romance the character I like the most in Dragon Age: Origins.
And right now, the character that attracts me the most in Dragon Age: Inquisition is Sera, but she is lesbian, so I cannot romance her with my main/real/canon character in Inquisition.
I mean, it's ok for developers to do the race-gating and the sexual condition of the characters in order to benefit the story, but it's also normal that some choices don't be equally accepted.
I understand your point, but Dragon age isn't a dating game. Romances are only optional therefore I don't understand why everyone is so upset. It's like they only want to play this game to be with a certain character. Explore! have fun! and dont fuss about who you can bed or not. it's silly.
I understand your point, but Dragon age isn't a dating game. Romances are only optional therefore I don't understand why everyone is so upset. It's like they only want to play this game to be with a certain character. Explore! have fun! and dont fuss about who you can bed or not. it's silly.
Romances being optional doesn't mean we cannot worry about them, it's another aspect of the game that people specially likes. Wearing weapons and armors is also optional, but not for that is less important. And you are totally wrong with the "who you can bed or not" part, because that's the last thing that comes to my mind when I think about romances. Being able to romance somebody is a chance to know him/her better, not a chance to lay in bed together... at least that's how I see it, because when you are in a romance with someone you get conversations/banter that otherwise you wouldn't get, allowing you to have a better comprehension of that character.
Maybe it's silly for you or you just misunderstood me, but romances are important for us.
Maybe it's silly for you or you just misunderstood me, but romances are important for us.
Whether romances are important or not, it's maybe a bad idea to develop an idea of romancing a character before you even know if it's possible.
I like the romances myself but I really make sure to avoid developing preconceptions of what my playthrough is going to be like before I actually play the game.
I know that's incredibly difficult considering how far in advance we get information on the companions...and that's why I hold the secret belief that in an ideal world BioWare wouldn't reveal the companions AT ALL before launch.
I know that's incredibly difficult considering how far in advance we get information on the companions...and that's why I hold the secret belief that in an ideal world BioWare wouldn't reveal the companions AT ALL before launch.
Heh, could be fun. And while I'm not sure if going that far is feasible, I would absolutely love it if they didn't reveal who is romancable. Let people discover it in game. Going into the game without knowing who is a potential love interest, and having to find things out for themselves by trying things out. I find myself attracted to one of the characters. I try to chat her up. And she shoots me down because quite simply she's not interested. And the one that would be interested is has already hooked up with someone else because I spent too long chasing the uncatchable. As disappointing as it would be, that seems so much more...real...than knowing that, if I pick the right dialogue options, Character X will fall in love with me.
And having restrictions on who NPC will fall in love with just adds to this IMO. While I do like in game romances, and yes, it does disappoint me when a character I like is not an option, at the same time, it makes the world that much more believable. Different people have different preferences. Whether its sex, race, personality, or even trivial details like hair colour. I mean, seriously, I know people in real life who don't find red hair in any way attractive. And they would have no interest in dating a readhead (crazy, I know). Can't ever see it happening in game, but in some ways I'd love a character who would reject the PC based on something like that. It would make them feel far more like a real person than the usual "will sleep with PC regardless".
Whether romances are important or not, it's maybe a bad idea to develop an idea of romancing a character before you even know if it's possible.
I like the romances myself but I really make sure to avoid developing preconceptions of what my playthrough is going to be like before I actually play the game.
I know that's incredibly difficult considering how far in advance we get information on the companions...and that's why I hold the secret belief that in an ideal world BioWare wouldn't reveal the companions AT ALL before launch.
Totally agree, but as you well said, it's difficult to not think about it with all the information that we get nowadays; and I share your same opinion, I think the less information revealed the better. I sometimes miss the good old days when you played a game without knowing pretty much anything.
All I'll say is there is only one companion in this game I have any interest in romancing at all. I'm afraid none of the others available appeal to me. If that companion turns out to be gated against my inquisitor, I'll not even bother with a romance. I'm really disappointed in hearing about all the gating of companion romances.
All I'll say is there is only one companion in this game I have any interest in romancing at all. I'm afraid none of the others available appeal to me. If that companion turns out to be gated against my inquisitor, I'll not even bother with a romance. I'm really disappointed in hearing about all the gating of companion romances.
There are only two race-gated romances.
Walp, since Solas has been confirmed as a race-gated romance (female elves only) that means Vivienne and Blackwall are the last possible romances and I am HOPING that Vivienne is NOT the final romance option. I think it would be silly for some of the men to be too focused on 'more important things' or too consumed by past loves to consider romance, but all the women are totally gung ho for a bit of ho hum.
I would much rather Vivienne be this crazy powerful, authoritative presence who hasn't the time for romance, but becomes a great friend nontheless.
Plus Blackwall is so cute 
I feel like he needs hugs. And romance. Please let it be him v-v
All I'll say is there is only one companion in this game I have any interest in romancing at all. I'm afraid none of the others available appeal to me. If that companion turns out to be gated against my inquisitor, I'll not even bother with a romance. I'm really disappointed in hearing about all the gating of companion romances.
Well, you know, not everyone finds love. And given that there are only a dozen or so people that you are interacting with regularly enough in the game to properly have a relationship with, it's pretty likely that you wont find someone you like who also is attracted to you. Doesn't that make the game more realistic and immersive?
Walp, since Solas has been confirmed as a race-gated romance (female elves only) that means Vivienne and Blackwall are the last possible romances and I am HOPING that Vivienne is NOT the final romance option. I think it would be silly for some of the men to be too focused on 'more important things' or too consumed by past loves to consider romance, but all the women are totally gung ho for a bit of ho hum.
I would much rather Vivienne be this crazy powerful, authoritative presence who hasn't the time for romance, but becomes a great friend nontheless.
Plus Blackwall is so cute
Blackwall as a love interest, regardless of orientation, leaves both lesbians and straight men with the fewest options. I do not support that. Therefore, I hope that Vivienne is romanceable.
Well, you know, not everyone finds love. And given that there are only a dozen or so people that you are interacting with regularly enough in the game to properly have a relationship with, it's pretty likely that you wont find someone you like who also is attracted to you. Doesn't that make the game more realistic and immersive?
I understand what you're saying, though that logic only works to a point. At a certain line realism becomes unsatisfactory in games.
I think DAI is sitting at a happy medium, and I really hope they don't make my PC a chronic asthmatic in the next game like me.
I understand what you're saying, though that logic only works to a point. At a certain line realism becomes unsatisfactory in games.
I think DAI is sitting at a happy medium, and I really hope they don't make my PC a chronic asthmatic in the next game like me.
Yeah, I think things like that go too far. But I feel sometimes the way romances are done by Bioware tends a bit too much towards the unbelievable. The LIs rarely seem to feel like they actually have agency of their own. Their purely there to satisfy the players fanatsies for love: if the player wants romance, the player gets it. Thats not to say I don't enjoy them - I do - but I'd enjoy it even more if sometimes, you know, they turned me down. OK, some of them in DA:I will do so for race or gender reasons. But, I'd like it to go further. Have them turn you down cos they just don't want you. Maybe make it random between playthroughs - sometimes they fall in love with you, sometimes they don't. That uncertainty would just feel so much more immersive and realistic to me. It would feel more like, well, love, than purely acting out my fantasies of sleeping with a hot redheaded bard...
Romances being optional doesn't mean we cannot worry about them, it's another aspect of the game that people specially likes. Wearing weapons and armors is also optional, but not for that is less important. And you are totally wrong with the "who you can bed or not" part, because that's the last thing that comes to my mind when I think about romances. Being able to romance somebody is a chance to know him/her better, not a chance to lay in bed together... at least that's how I see it, because when you are in a romance with someone you get conversations/banter that otherwise you wouldn't get, allowing you to have a better comprehension of that character.
Maybe it's silly for you or you just misunderstood me, but romances are important for us.
actually I think the gated romances are a good idea. I mean; not everyone finds each other attractive or interesting. I like how they add a bit of realism in it.
Blackwall as a love interest, regardless of orientation, leaves both lesbians and straight men with the fewest options. I do not support that. Therefore, I hope that Vivienne is romanceable.
Someone's gotta have the least options. They had the ability to make it even this time around, but chose not too, so this is the result. No reason why it couldn't be straight guys and lesbians in this game. Although, it would be a shame if lesbians got less options again.
actually I think the gated romances are a good idea. I mean; not everyone finds each other attractive or interesting. I like how they add a bit of realism in it.
Of course, I'm cool with that too, but it also makes me a little bit angry (in a pasive and good way of course) when the character I like is not interested in me; and I'm not even reproaching this to the developers, it's just realism too 
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Someone's gotta have the least options. They had the ability to make it even this time around, but chose not too, so this is the result. No reason why it couldn't be straight guys and lesbians in this game. Although, it would be a shame if lesbians got less options again.
Wouldn't it be even though if Viv was bi? As far as companions go at least.
To be fair we shared lelianas whole deal with marjolane, that kinda counts right?
Granted she only died if we killed her but still....
Oh, no, no... Marjolaine was evil, betrayed Leliana and Leliana didn't love her anymore. What you need is to listen to the LI drone on and on about how perfect her dead husband was and how much you remind her of him... only then you will know the true Carth syndrome 
Wouldn't it be even though if Viv was bi? As far as companions go at least.
Oh, no, no... Marjolaine was evil, betrayed Leliana and Leliana didn't love her anymore. What you need is to listen to the LI drone on and on about how perfect her dead husband was and how much you remind her of him... only then you will know the true Carth syndrome
I believe that would mean gay men get the least, as Solas and Cullen are female only.
"You remind me so much of my perfect husband!"
"Did he have breasts too?"
I mean outside the advisors since it would be
Dorian, Iron Bull
Cassandra, Viv
Solas, Iron Bull
Sera, Viv
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