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[Elite Midget]

My FemHawke had no luck when it came to love.

 

Crushed heavily on Aveline, but Aveline only had eyes for Donnic.

 

Isabela cheers up Hawke, after some flirting, and they spend the night together. Isabela doesn't want more so Hawke doesn't push her as she values their friendship and respects Isabela's desire to not be serious even though Hawke wanted more.

 

Depressed over Isabela, Hawke ends up spending time with Fenris on their off hours. Eventually it leads to them becoming intimate but Fenris later breaks it off afterward with very little explanation and Hawke comes to terms with it not working out. It hurts Hawke though when she later finds out that Fenris and Isabela became bed buddies but she was with Anders at that point so she hoped they would work out as they are her friends.

 

Eventually moved on to Anders, as he reminded her of father - Malcolm and he revealed that he always loved her, and when he didn't try to break it off after sharing a bed together she happily lets him move in and thinking she finally found happiness. They had like 3 years together, Act 2->Act 3, but than you know what eventually happens. FemHawke kills Anders for what he did, as it was unforgivable and he was too far lost to the spirit so she freed him from it, even though it broke her heart.

 

At the end Hawke finally realized that Merrill was in love with her the entire time, based off their last conversation, but she also knows that her brother Carver loves Merrill. So yeah, Hawke cannot betray her brother like that and doesn't pursue Merrill. That and there was no option for a last minute hook up.

 

Poor Mage FemHawke, no luck at all. When she tried to get close they're either not interested, don't want more after a single night, or they end up going crazy.

 

Maybe she'll have more luck in DA:I? Perhaps that Warden traveling with her is single?

[ZeroPhoenix94]

Were you just role-playing an unlucky Hawke or what?
Also, what do you mean you hope she has better luck in Inquisition? We're not playing as Hawke, we're playing as the Inquisitor. Two completely different people. Unless you meant you hope the Inquisitor has better luck, I apologize.

[caradoc2000]

Also, what do you mean you hope she has better luck in Inquisition? We're not playing as Hawke, we're playing as the Inquisitor.

Even if we are not playing as her, Hawke does make an appearance in DAI, however.

[luna1124]

Great OP!! Made me smile

[congokong]

The Carver/Merrill romance probably would never happen. Either Carver is a Grey Warden or he's a templar... and Merrill being a mage would be a roadblock there.

 

As for Fenris/Isabela, I was annoyed when I heard about them hooking up after Fenris dumps Hawke specifically because intimacy was too traumatic. And yet he goes off to **** Isabela without any problems? What an ass.

 

I was never certain what unromanced Merrill's last conversation meant. "Hawke, before we go, I..."

[Milan92]

 

As for Fenris/Isabela, I was annoyed when I heard about them hooking up after Fenris dumps Hawke specifically because intimacy was too traumatic. And yet he goes off to **** Isabela without any problems? What an ass.

 

I heard something like that as well, but didn't know Fenris can actually dump Hawke like that and goes to Isabela.

 

That's just low.

[Abraham_uk]

Were you just role-playing an unlucky Hawke or what?
Also, what do you mean you hope she has better luck in Inquisition? We're not playing as Hawke, we're playing as the Inquisitor. Two completely different people. Unless you meant you hope the Inquisitor has better luck, I apologize.

 

I have a little speculation about Hawke's appearance.

 

If the Inquisitor picks both Varric and Cassandra in the party. When there is no fighting going on, Varric bugs Cassandra to lend him her ear for yet another tale about Hawke.

 

 

Varric: Do you want to know the actual reason why Hawke left Kirkwall?

Cassandra: [Sigh. Cassandra is getting pretty fed up with all the stories about Hawke at this point.] Do tell.

Varric: She was helping out the Grey Wardens tackle a darkspawn in the fade.

Cassandra: How much of this story actually happened?

Varric: Would I ever lie to you?

Cassandra: Fine. Tell us the story then.

 

[For the next 30 minutes you play as Hawke and 3 Grey Wardens. One mage warden, one rogue warden and a warrior warden].

 

Cassandra: I can tell this story is nonsense.

Varric: What do you mean?

Cassandra: A warrior, rogue and mage accompanied Hawke. Seems contrived.

Varric: It makes sense. You'd need a warrior to take the brunt of the trauma, a rogue to flank the enemy and a mage to decimate the enemy.

Cassandra: Fine. You raise a fair point. But here is what I don't get. Hawke started a romance with a Grey Warden that she had only known for two days.

Varric: Two days in the fade can feel like an eternity. Besides why do you always doubt me?

Cassandra: Because that story is made up!

Varric: So Inquisitor. Do you believe my story?

 

 

Inquisitor's options:

 

Yes

No

Not Sure

[Elite Midget]

Were you just role-playing an unlucky Hawke or what?
Also, what do you mean you hope she has better luck in Inquisition? We're not playing as Hawke, we're playing as the Inquisitor. Two completely different people. Unless you meant you hope the Inquisitor has better luck, I apologize.

All wishful thinking, my Witty Mage Hawke(Thinking back, all my Hawke's are witty) still has optimism that she'll find love elsewhere even after so many failed attempts.

 

Sure I'm not playing Hawke anymore but that's besides the point!

 

 

The Carver/Merrill romance probably would never happen. Either Carver is a Grey Warden or he's a templar... and Merrill being a mage would be a roadblock there.

 

As for Fenris/Isabela, I was annoyed when I heard about them hooking up after Fenris dumps Hawke specifically because intimacy was too traumatic. And yet he goes off to **** Isabela without any problems? What an ass.

 

I was never certain what unromanced Merrill's last conversation meant. "Hawke, before we go, I..."

Whether Carver or Merrill would happen or not, you don't do that to your own brother. That and there was no option for a last minute hook up after Anders died.

 

It is annoying, but the way I see it is that Isabela and Fenris only did it for sex while Fenris was falling in love with Hawke.

 

I believe she was trying to confess as she mentions that she regrets something about things not working out with Hawke the way she wanted. It's a little fuzzy.

[congokong]

Whether Carver or Merrill would happen or not, you don't do that to your own brother. That and there was no option for a last minute hook up after Anders died.

Don't do what, start a relationship with someone your brother might have had an interest in when he was around years ago? That's stupid. 

 

 

It is annoying, but the way I see it is that Isabela and Fenris only did it for sex while Fenris was falling in love with Hawke.

 

The physical intimacy was bringing back memories that Fenris couldn't handle. The same should apply to Isabela.

[Elite Midget]

Carver was interested in Merrill and is still interested in her even as a Grey Warden or Templar. DLCs highlight his interest as well and Merrill seems to be aware of his crush in MoTA.

 

Not really as Fenris clearly was in love with Hawke hence why he panicked as he seems like he's scared that he'll lose Hawke like he lost his memories so he instead pushes Hawke away. While with Isabela they both only are sleeping together for sex, no strings attached.

[congokong]

Carver was interested in Merrill and is still interested in her even as a Grey Warden or Templar. DLCs highlight his interest as well and Merrill seems to be aware of his crush in MoTA.

 

Not really as Fenris clearly was in love with Hawke hence why he panicked as he seems like he's scared that he'll lose Hawke like he lost his memories so he instead pushes Hawke away. While with Isabela they both only are sleeping together for sex, no strings attached.

You talk like Carver in Merrill had been in a serious romantic relationship or something before she got together with Hawke. That's the only time social etiquette would potentially come into play. There's no reason to say 3 years later "I'm sorry Merrill. I have feelings for you but my brother once had feelings for you too even though I haven't seen him in years and he's now a Grey Warden in another country ...or a templar douchebag who locks up mages now." Hell, I didn't even pick up on these "feelings" Carver has for Merrill based on Act 1 dialogue except on the internet. I still don't see it but supposedly he says additional things if the two are in Legacy.

 

Sigh, I repeat, Fenris finds it traumatic to get his memories back only to lose them after being triggered by physical intimacy. That's why he ends the relationship. He says this. You're making **** up with your own little headcanon about him fearing losing Hawke the same way.

[Gallimatia]

I don't think it's intentional that Fenris and Isabela start sleeping together in a scenario like this. I think the game lazily checks for active romances without thinking too much about it.

[HTTP 404]

stay tuned to the next episode of "Fereldan Days of our Lives" or is it "General Chantry"?  I get those two shows mixed up

[TheMadHarridan]

You talk like Carver in Merrill had been in a serious romantic relationship or something before she got together with Hawke. That's the only time social etiquette would potentially come into play. There's no reason to say 3 years later "I'm sorry Merrill. I have feelings for you but my brother once had feelings for you too even though I haven't seen him in years and he's now a Grey Warden in another country ...or a templar douchebag who locks up mages now." Hell, I didn't even pick up on these "feelings" Carver has for Merrill based on Act 1 dialogue except on the internet. I still don't see it but supposedly he says additional things if the two are in Legacy.

 

Sigh, I repeat, Fenris finds it traumatic to get his memories back only to lose them after being triggered by physical intimacy. That's why he ends the relationship. He says this. You're making **** up with your own little headcanon about him fearing losing Hawke the same way.

I agree about Merrill. Carver may have had a crush on her, but he never did anything about it, so I see Merrill as fair game for Hawke. It would be foolish for Hawke to brush Merrill aside because his little brother (who is a Grey Warden or a Templar at this point) may still carry a torch for her after three years. Judging from Carver's banter about Hawke romancing Merrill in Legacy, he doesn't even appear to take it that badly. Sure, he's a little annoyed because of his inferiority complex, but that's just typical Carver.

 

As for Fenris, I do believe it was the physical intimacy with Hawke that triggered his memories, but that it was because the physical intimacy had actual feelings/emotions tied up with it. If he hooks up with Isabela, there are no romantic feelings involved, which is probably why sex with her doesn't cause him to have a breakdown because of memory overload. After all, sex with romantic feelings is a completely different experience than casual sex.

[congokong]

As for Fenris, I do believe it was the physical intimacy with Hawke that triggered his memories, but that it was because the physical intimacy had actual feelings/emotions tied up with it. If he hooks up with Isabela, there are no romantic feelings involved, which is probably why sex with her doesn't cause him to have a breakdown because of memory overload. After all, sex with romantic feelings is a completely different experience than casual sex.

 

His flashes come from sex. Whether emotions had anything to do with it is pure speculation. Even so, whose to say he has absolutely no feelings for Isabela; especially in the heat of the moment? During sex emotions can run rampant. And yet he's going to Isabela on apparently a regular basis when he dumped Hawke after that first night.

[Elite Midget]

You talk like Carver in Merrill had been in a serious romantic relationship or something before she got together with Hawke. That's the only time social etiquette would potentially come into play. There's no reason to say 3 years later "I'm sorry Merrill. I have feelings for you but my brother once had feelings for you too even though I haven't seen him in years and he's now a Grey Warden in another country ...or a templar douchebag who locks up mages now." Hell, I didn't even pick up on these "feelings" Carver has for Merrill based on Act 1 dialogue except on the internet. I still don't see it but supposedly he says additional things if the two are in Legacy.

 

Sigh, I repeat, Fenris finds it traumatic to get his memories back only to lose them after being triggered by physical intimacy. That's why he ends the relationship. He says this. You're making **** up with your own little headcanon about him fearing losing Hawke the same way.

It as serious for Carver and that's enough, you don't betray your sibling or block them. Carver has issues with women but if he still wants to try than a good sibling smiles, pats their sibling on the back, and wishes them luck.

 

How didn't you pick up his dialogue that he likes Merrill? It's quite obvious with how he stumbles on his words, compliments her constantly, and hits on her. There's also the DLC stuff so it isn't a "may, it's a "is" as he STILL is in love with Merrill even after becoming a Grey Warden or a Templar. Furthermore, you're trying to paint all Templars are monsters when that isn't the case as Hawke wouldn't have had a family at all if a Templar didn't overlook the Order's rules and let his friend Malcolm leave in peace.

 

He still left Hawke because of his fears and it's even mentioned in the DLCs with Hawke trying to get an answer over it and him avoiding it.

 

You're also missing the "intimacy" part. There's nothing intimate about him bedding Isabela while there IS something intimate when he beds Hawke because he's in love with Hawke.

[congokong]

It as serious for Carver and that's enough, you don't betray your sibling or block them. Carver has issues with women but if he still wants to try than a good sibling smiles, pats their sibling on the back, and wishes them luck.

 

How didn't you pick up his dialogue that he likes Merrill? It's quite obvious with how he stumbles on his words, compliments her constantly, and hits on her. There's also the DLC stuff so it isn't a "may, it's a "is" as he STILL is in love with Merrill even after becoming a Grey Warden or a Templar. Furthermore, you're trying to paint all Templars are monsters when that isn't the case as Hawke wouldn't have had a family at all if a Templar didn't overlook the Order's rules and let his friend Malcolm leave in peace.

 

He still left Hawke because of his fears and it's even mentioned in the DLCs with Hawke trying to get an answer over it and him avoiding it.

 

You're also missing the "intimacy" part. There's nothing intimate about him bedding Isabela while there IS something intimate when he beds Hawke because he's in love with Hawke.

We're just talking circles around each other again and this is conversation is pointless.

[Elite Midget]

Perhaps.

 

My point is that I believe in loyalty to family, so betraying Carver isn't something my Hawke would do. He's an arse at the start but he does grow a lot over the years - especially if he's a Grey Warden.

 

There's also no way to have a last hook-up in the game anyway. So never hitting on Merrill because of Carver wanting to be with her is enough of a compromise.