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#2476
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I am right there with you. Big beefiness on a male isn't my thing, though I do prefer muscular women. 

 

Also - you're in luck regarding a male qunari. They don't have the same build as Iron Bull. His build is unique for some such reason. Which is good because I am hoping to make a beautiful qunari man loosely based on this recent Dragon's Dogma character I designed:

 

Spoiler

 

He needs horns, but DD doesn't offer that. 

Muscular women... It can work, just like with muscular men. Bodybuilder women terrify me on a base level and I don't find them terribly attractive. Cassandra though, I am perfectly fine with.

And yeah, while they will have a smaller build I don't think they'll have a build that satisfies me. I'm a picky guy, what can I say?



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If we go by what the race gates were before Bull was available for everyone. That meant there would have been 2 males. I wouldn't think Bioware would make 3 race gated males race gated. This does favor Vivienne being likely the last race gated LI.



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Muscular women... It can work, just like with muscular men. Bodybuilder women terrify me on a base level and I don't find them terribly attractive. Cassandra though, I am perfectly fine with.

And yeah, while they will have a smaller build I don't think they'll have a build that satisfies me. I'm a picky guy, what can I say?

Well I meant the normal range of "muscular" for a woman. Like - yes! - Cassandra.  :wub:


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#2479
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Muscular women... It can work, just like with muscular men. Bodybuilder women terrify me on a base level and I don't find them terribly attractive. Cassandra though, I am perfectly fine with.

And yeah, while they will have a smaller build I don't think they'll have a build that satisfies me. I'm a picky guy, what can I say?

Lol, I've been praying for a beefy LI for m/m for years!!!! We always get the twigs...Anders, Fenris, and Zevran...


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If we go by what the race gates were before Bull was available for everyone. That meant there would have been 2 males. I wouldn't think Bioware would make 3 race gated males race gated. This does favor Vivienne being likely the last race gated LI.

Or Cassandra/Sera could be racegated. I doubt it's Sera though.



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Well I meant the normal range of "muscular" for a woman. Like - yes! - Cassandra.  :wub:

 

Toned, muscular lean. Nice build aye.



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Toned, muscular lean. Nice build aye.

The technical term is hot.


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#2483
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Lol, I've been praying for a beefy LI for m/m for years!!!! We always get the twigs...Anders, Fenris, and Zevran...

Speaking as a twig. Twig isn't that bad ;~;

But yeah, I get what'cha mean. Personally, I'd prefer Blackwall for my beefy bara but we'll see where the dice falls.



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The best idea to figure out who's race gated is to think about who may make the most story-sense for it.



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Toned, muscular lean. Nice build aye.

 

 

The technical term is hot.

If there was ever a female that I'd romance, Cass would be it, hands down. I LOVE HER.


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#2486
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Happy 100 pages everyone!!!1!!


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The best idea to figure out who's race gated is to think about who may make the most story-sense for it.

After Solas, I think it's safe to say that it could be anyone lol.



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The best idea to figure out who's race gated is to think about who may make the most story-sense for it.

I don't think that's a guarantee of anything, but IMO that would be Vivienne... maybe Cullen, though I've never really been in favor of the anti-dwarf and qunari argument.



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Speaking as a twig. Twig isn't that bad ;~;

But yeah, I get what'cha mean. Personally, I'd prefer Blackwall for my beefy bara but we'll see where the dice falls.

Lol, in real life, twigs certainly are NOT bad. I just prefer beefier guys lol.



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The best idea to figure out who's race gated is to think about who may make the most story-sense for it.

Well... I could come up with reasons for just about all of them.

Cullen displayed racism for Dwarves in the past so could be gated against them.

Cassandra is a staunch Chantry loyalist so could be gated against the Dalish Inquisitor or the Qunari one.

Dorian is Tevinter so could be uncomfortable with a Qunari.

Sera doesn't like nobility so might not get along with a human.

Vivienne is focused on her political position so going with a elf or a dwarf or a qunari probably isn't wise.

Blackwall... I actually can't think of a reason.



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Well... I could come up with reasons for just about all of them.

Cullen displayed racism for Dwarves in the past so could be gated against them.

Cassandra is a staunch Chantry loyalist so could be gated against the Dalish Inquisitor or the Qunari one.

Dorian is Tevinter so could be uncomfortable with a Qunari.

Sera doesn't like nobility so might not get along with a human.

Vivienne is focused on her political position so going with a elf or a dwarf or a qunari probably isn't wise.

Blackwall... I actually can't think of a reason.

I doubt racism/prejudice/preference will be the reason, so crossing that out that, it leaves Cassandra, Vivienne, and Blackwall. 



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The number of conversations going on in this thread is confusing. What's this topic about again?  :rolleyes:


Gay lionducks.
 

If there was ever a female that I'd romance, Cass would be it, hands down. I LOVE HER.


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#2493
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I doubt racism/prejudice/preference will be the reason, so crossing that out that, it leaves Cassandra, Vivienne, and Blackwall. 

Well, how about Trauma?

Cullen did see Kirkwall get burnt up by the Qunari. I can't say I have a lot of experience with trauma but I can't imagine that it didn't leave some sort of scar.

Once more, I can't really think of a reason for Blackwall. He has respect for the Grey Warden ways, so he'll be fairly open.



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I doubt racism/prejudice/preference will be the reason, so crossing that out that, it leaves Cassandra, Vivienne, and Blackwall. 

Do we know anything about Blackwall other than he's a Grey Warden with a strong sense of duty?  I don't see any way to determine whether or not he is race gated based on what little information we have...



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Gay lionducks.


*approved of your taste in women*

Cass is love. Cass is life.

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Personally, I find the argument that because someone was born a certain way(as straight males/females are) that they should be excluded from content due to 'history' a fairly weak argument. That's reverse discrimination, an abhorrent practice in my view.

 

Bringing a history of discrimination or being 'catered to' into the equation is a weak argument in my opinion, as it automatically assumes something about people who can not help the way they were born, and punishes them retroactively for the sins of society, rather than their own. All this does is create more hate and anger, rather than healing and understanding. It enflames entitlement and defensiveness on both sides, rather than bring a sense of mutual understanding and honest, constructive discussion.

 

This is my humble opinion, subject to my own preconceptions and background. As a flawed human being, I lay no claim to its infallibility. Simply a perspective worth considering, I hope.

 

I totally get where you're coming from, but to me this isn't about exclusion, but inclusion. History is important because it impacts social views towards specific minorities, in this case, LGBT+ communities. We live in a society where these groups are routinely excluded from media of all types - or represented in offensive, stereotypical ways. That's not my opinion, that's a fact, a quick google search will set anyone who disagrees with that straight (no pun intended).

 

Like I said, I advocate for equal opportunities across the board for all types of people. But in this particular instance (In Dragon Age Inquisition. Not other games. I'm talking about Dragon Age Inquisition) where we already know for certain that not everyone can have equal options, for me (and I'm speaking as a straight female) the next best case scenario imo is for the 'extra options', I guess you could call them, to be given to the people who have been routinely and systematically left out.

 

I don't see not having the extra options as a punishment if it results in what I consider to be a progressional reward for all of society. And I believe only people already in privileged positions (like me) who would act retroactively to having less options, already have their own problems with internal entitlement that overall is irrelevant to the issue. Honestly? Other straight people kicking up a fuss and being upset over having one less option is unimportant to me when I see minority groups celebrating and rejoicing at finally being represented to a standard that they haven't been before.

 

But also, like you, I realise this is just my opinion and it may be flawed. You're welcome to disagree with it. 


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#2497
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People never cared about fairness. They only care about their demograhic or what affect them. ( not saying it's bad, but that's the reality of it, and I'm tired about this lie using the wrong word ) The same people using this word were gloating or indifferent about others having less, or were pretty satisfied when they got more, like those straight female gamers, even more greedy when it comes to Blackwall. ( I'm not saying it's bad, but that's the reality ), not even bothered for most of them they would have twice than others. People use the argument of history, but that doesn't change anything. They don't really fight for equal numbers. They would learn that their own demographic got more in another situation, they would harshly defend the idea and would tell to straight to deal with it. Anything bad that happens in one game to some is okay because of the past when you read all those pages. 

 

The difference with the tone nowadays with the one one or two months ago with Gaider claiming that they don't feel the need to give equal numbers is just astonishing. People probably thought that straight guys would be screwed, so it was okay, but it happens that it's not proably the case, so now the rage comes. ( Not saying it's bad, but it's just telling )

 

Anyways we are in a " walking dead situation "  Because of the harsh situation with Bioware not willing to give equal numbers, people end up fighting each other for their own fate. ( It was also funny to see all those straight guys complaining about fairness only when they were concerned, ) It will continue in the futures games.

 

This is exactly why I stopped to bother while before I was truly concerned by equality in the romance area, and now do not care about who is screwed. 

 

I'm sorry, but please do not use blanket statements. There are those who care deeply about equality and about other demographics outside of their own. And yes, that includes some who are in a very privileged position. Believe me when I say that there are a number of us straight women who actually feel guilty about having more options because we're getting it at someone else's expense. 

 

And I do hope you never saw me as being greedy over Blackwall, that is not how I wanted to be interpreted and it's not how I feel about the situation at all. 


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Well... I could come up with reasons for just about all of them.

Cullen displayed racism for Dwarves in the past so could be gated against them.

Cassandra is a staunch Chantry loyalist so could be gated against the Dalish Inquisitor or the Qunari one.

Dorian is Tevinter so could be uncomfortable with a Qunari.

Sera doesn't like nobility so might not get along with a human.

Vivienne is focused on her political position so going with a elf or a dwarf or a qunari probably isn't wise.

Blackwall... I actually can't think of a reason.

Dorian isn't your normal mage from Tevinter, he is an outcast, a black sheep he doesn't think like the rest, being a noble has nothing to do with race it has to do with class/status in society with Solas being both gender and race gated I doubt they are going to race gate both elves and two female only options and I don't think they will race gate both homosexual choices. The only candidates I see is being a male only option and the unknown one so its either Cass, Vivi or BW 



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Do we know anything about Blackwall other than he's a Grey Warden with a strong sense of duty?  I don't see any way to determine whether or not he is race gated based on what little information we have...

Well, yeah.  That's why Blackwall's more included.  I'm honestly pretty convinced he's not going to be the last LI myself.



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The best idea to figure out who's race gated is to think about who may make the most story-sense for it.

 

Has it been said though that the last two to be revealed will be gated? Solas was so its between Viv and Blackwall then, or maybe I picked this up wrong. Story reasons erm I don't know much about Blackwall honestly but Viv if she is the last choice race-gated would make sense for her political reasons mainly.