Some people had interpreted the Merrill romance from DA2 to be a demisexual romance until Gaider confirmed the LI's were in fact all bisexual, and not playersexual. So, it's possible and would only require a few lines of dialogue to set up.
Why did Gaider have to crush my hopes like that? 
Isn't the Sebastian romance technically a non-sexual one?
That went over really well...
It was chaste, Sebastian himself is hetero who just refuses to have sex.
Isn't the Sebastian romance technically a non-sexual one?
That went over really well...
I don't think the issue with Seb's romance was that it was chaste. It's probably that he had about 6 lines of romantic dialogue and no conclusion to the romance at the end of the game.
Some people had interpreted the Merrill romance from DA2 to be a demisexual romance until Gaider confirmed the LI's were in fact all bisexual, and not playersexual. So, it's possible and would only require a few lines of dialogue to set up.
I think the problem is that the writers don't necessarily know about/understand the more obscure sexualities. I don't think they're really.. wrong? for it. A lot of people have never heard of demisexuality. We had a big argument some pages back just about sexuality definitions. It gets cloudy and confusing outside the more "known" sexualities. People explained asexuality to them and they said at GaymerX that they would like to try to include one later on.
I think people just need to make it clear what sexualities they would like to see, so the dev team understands what's lacking and how to fix it. I would encourage anyone wanting something like this to consider creating and maintaining a Feedback forum thread, such as the one that's been very successful in encouraging female representation in advertising. If you make the team aware, I think they'd be more likely to try to work it in. A situation like the demisexual option would be pretty easy for them to work around, because it wouldn't necessarily offset options elsewhere.
Why did Gaider have to crush my hopes like that?
He's a witch, I tell you! He consumes baby skulls and fear!
Edit: Heh Code Monkeys 
Why did Gaider have to crush my hopes like that?
You could look at it similar to Iron Bull, he's pansexual but still classified as bisexual for the game
Merrill is still ambiguous or demisexual in that regard
Why did Gaider have to crush my hopes like that?
In all honesty, I'd be curious if Gaider knows what demisexual means.
In all honesty, I'd be curious if Gaider knows what demisexual means.
There's always Wikipedia.
I mean crud, its how i keep up with all these "sexuals" that seem to pop up every other year or so.
I mean there were four or so recognized when i was growing up, now there are more then ten.
About comment how race-gating isn't as bad as gender-gating cause you can change your race: for some people like me race-gating is worse than gender-gating:
It's not equality problem but it's big gameplay problem. I don't do self-inserts and I play both genders equally and with different sexual orientations. Race changes up whole story of your Inquisitor, how they look, how they act, how they feel about others and how others feel about them. That's why it's not same do I play Qunari who is Tal-Vashoth and mercenary or human who is with Chantry and being born in nobility, that changes up whole character. If I just switch up gender it doesn't change my whole character, not in points that I pointed out.
Cullen and Solas are the romances I was going to pursue as female Inquisitor. If both are race-gated against Qunari, although I'm straight female myself I don't have much desire to play female in this game. I'll do so for Cullen but it won't be very happy time for me. So for me it really seems like male quizzys are better of, they got already Dorian and Cassandra who I want to romance when female quizzy potentially has nothing.
So for me it really seems like male quizzys are better of, they got already Dorian and Cassandra who I want to romance when female quizzy potentially has nothing.
This is kind of funny, because it's no more confirmed that Dorian and Cassandra are open to Qunari than that Cullen is. Iron Bull and Josephine are confirmed to be open to everyone, so everyone has one confirmed option for their race/gender/sexuality.
But the fact that it's a gameplay issue and not a representation issue is the point. Representing real life groups is more important than making individual's happy with their fantasy racial choices. I would like race gating not to exist, but the issue it creates is not on the same level.
You could look at it similar to Iron Bull, he's pansexual but still classified as bisexual for the game
Merrill is still ambiguous or demisexual in that regard
I don't know. Patrick Weekes stated in a Tweet "We say bi for simplicity, but yes, Iron Bull is pansexual."
Meanwhile Gaider said quite clearly in two different places that Merrill is bisexual, as in just bisexual and not using the term for simplicity. Also doesn't help that in each place he goes on about how not having set sexualities makes the stories not as deep and have 'actual representation'. That hurt. 
In all honesty, I'd be curious if Gaider knows what demisexual means.
I have no real means of asking him, so I can't say.
This is kind of funny, because it's no more confirmed that Dorian and Cassandra are open to Qunari than that Cullen is. Iron Bull and Josephine are confirmed to be open to everyone, so everyone has one confirmed option for their race/gender/sexuality.
But the fact that it's a gameplay issue and not a representation issue is the point. Representing real life groups is more important than making individual's happy with their fantasy racial choices. I would like race gating not to exist, but the issue it creates is not on the same level.
Agreed, it does suck that you'll be limited to Elf if you want to romance Solas, and possibly Human if you want Cullen. But it's not the same thing.
That is what Bioware is going for in DA:I. That is how it works in the real world.
Voice of reasonPersonally, I find the argument that because someone was born a certain way(as straight males/females are) that they should be excluded from content due to 'history' a fairly weak argument. That's reverse discrimination, an abhorrent practice in my view.
Bringing a history of discrimination or being 'catered to' into the equation is a weak argument in my opinion, as it automatically assumes something about people who can not help the way they were born, and punishes them retroactively for the sins of society, rather than their own. All this does is create more hate and anger, rather than healing and understanding. It enflames entitlement and defensiveness on both sides, rather than bring a sense of mutual understanding and honest, constructive discussion.
This is my humble opinion, subject to my own preconceptions and background. As a flawed human being, I lay no claim to its infallibility. Simply a perspective worth considering, I hope.
This is kind of funny, because it's no more confirmed that Dorian and Cassandra are open to Qunari than that Cullen is. Iron Bull and Josephine are confirmed to be open to everyone, so everyone has one confirmed option for their race/gender/sexuality.
But the fact that it's a gameplay issue and not a representation issue is the point. Representing real life groups is more important than making individual's happy with their fantasy racial choices. I would like race gating not to exist, but the issue it creates is not on the same level.
I pointed out Cullen since that's what people are assuming and wondering over. I'm not afraid of Dorian and Cassandra being race-gated at this point.
Race-gating is still romance and gameplay issue and I think should be discussed as well in romance thread. Like I said, for some players it's big deal although it's different thing as sexual orientations and gender-gating. It's not like changing your race in the game is easy, you have to build your character around the race and backstory after all.
Pretty funny but if they only let a vowel be the clue to the last LI that would be all we need since Vivienne and Blackwall don't share any vowels or letters for that matter 
Then just slap a few decades on it for them telling up what the sexuality and race gate of the LI is.
I pointed out Cullen since that's what people are assuming and wondering over. I'm not afraid of Dorian and Cassandra being race-gated at this point.
Race-gating is still romance and gameplay issue and I think should be discussed as well in romance thread. Like I said, for some players it's big deal although it's different thing as sexual orientations and gender-gating. It's not like changing your race in the game is easy, you have to build your character around the race and backstory after all.
And you have to build the romance around it also
Bioware: The next love interests name has between 7 to 10 letters in it.
For some reason i was so attractive to cole now that he can not be romancble i guess Cullen would have to be one I picked >.>.
I am starting develop a interest in Iron bull tho :3
I pointed out Cullen since that's what people are assuming and wondering over. I'm not afraid of Dorian and Cassandra being race-gated at this point.
Race-gating is still romance and gameplay issue and I think should be discussed as well in romance thread. Like I said, for some players it's big deal although it's different thing as sexual orientations and gender-gating. It's not like changing your race in the game is easy, you have to build your character around the race and backstory after all.
You can definitely discuss it. I wouldn't assume it's my place to tell people what they are or are not allowed to discuss concerning the romance feature.
Anyone could be gated at this point. People have been really sure about a lot of things that turned out false. I've followed the romance speculation and, trust me, it's definitely not always what people assume it will be. Nobody was guessing Iron Bull would be ungated (except Vaapa, and we will never forget) and nobody thought Solas would be gated the way he was. Anyone could be smacked with the last of the gates, at this point. Vivienne and Cassandra are both actually really good guesses for the gates right now. Sera, too, if Vivienne is a bisexual LI. If Vivienne is the last LI, it will very likely be a female LI that's gated, and if she's bisexual, it could easily be any female beyond Josephine.
I'm not saying race gating isn't something you have the right to be disappointed over. You do and you have a right to complain. Where I draw a line, personally, is saying it's a bad as people getting less options for their gender/sexuality. It's an issue, but it's not an issue on the same level. Making sure people are able to enjoy the romances and their race choice is important, but it's not as important as representing real life groups. That doesn't mean they should throw race choice issues under the bus without serious consideration, but it should be the lower priority.
Sera won't be gated, they are not going to race gate both elves and two female only options.
Sera won't be gated, they are not going to race gate both elves and two female only options.
I wouldn't count on it over much. If Vivienne is bisexual, lesbians get three options and gay options tend to take the hit when someone is going to. It's very likely that they would gate Sera over a straight male option. If Vivienne is straight, Sera almost certainly won't be gated.
The only thing I'm expecting at this point is Blackwall or Vivienne, and everyone getting at least 2 options (Allan said he was 99% sure of this).
Everything else is up in the air. I certainly didn't expect what they did with Solas.
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