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#2651
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They have one more option now. Theirs still another LI to go. And either lesbians or gays or both are getting the short end of the stick.

Your acting like the option you have now are slapped together just to please you.



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It's not "silly". When specific groups always get less options, that's unfair. It's about quality and quantity, but our quality has very often been lacking in comparison to heterosexual options, as well. The heterosexual options tend to be the more plot heavy and the most developed. The options given to gay men tend to openly favor women, never favoring men. Quality and quantity have not favored us and it's not "silly" to want that to change.  

I said you options in the past were Bad.

 

I'm just sick of the romance options being a numbers game.

If the scales were tipped like they were in the past I would be standing next to you complaining as well.



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I said you options in the past were Bad.

 

I'm just sick of the romance option being a numbers game.

If the scales were tipped like they were in the past I would be standing next to you complaining as well.

I hope you're right and that the quality of Dorian and Sera's romance is amazing. But if we're going off ME3 it'll probably be slapped together.



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I don't mean to be rude, but homosexual men are not the lowest priority. There has been around 8 men available to men in Bioware's history if I recall correctly. In comparison:

 

How many asexual options? 0

How many demisexual options? 0

How many AS options? 1

etc, etc. 

I mean, I am a Demisexual, and this seems kinda weird. Yeah Aces surprisingly get their own bigotry. Every pro LGBT but anti Asexual person throws me. But honestly, many asexuals are aromantic so they are covered. Demiromantics could fit several romances with slight head canon. And asexuals will fit once they decentralize sex in some playthroughs. Nevermind that while we face invisibility and the insistance we are messed up, LGBT people have it worse.

 

I mean the romantics still can enjoy the same content, and as a homoromantic I feel focusing on LGBT is focussing on me. Sebastian was the only one that was actually inconsiderate and just rude from that point. I do feel that homosexual men have lost out and here's hoping there are many more options for them in the future.


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I said you options in the past were Bad.

 

I'm just sick of the romance options being a numbers game.

If the scales were tipped like they were in the past I would be standing next to you complaining as well.

Having the numbers tipped at all is not alright. Certain groups getting consistently less content isn't alright. It is a numbers game and there's no reason it shouldn't be. Certain groups getting consistently less content is a problem.  


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I hope you're right and that the quality of Dorian and Sera's romance is amazing. But if we're going off ME3 it'll probably be slapped together.

We'll have to see how it turns out. They aren't the same writers who made the ME romances as best as I can tell (With my ten seconds of research) so that's one thing to be hopeful for.


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We'll have to see how it turns out. They aren't the same writers who made the ME romances as best as I can tell (With my ten seconds of research) so that's one thing to be hopeful for.

Well, Patrick Weekes actually wrote Samantha Traynor before he came to DA, but he's writing Iron Bull and Solas, not either of the same-sex options. DA tends to approach things differently. With Dorian and Sera being party members, I'm hopeful that they'll at least be more developed and plot important than the ME NPCs were. It's true, though, that straight LIs have tended towards being the more important ones. Cassandra definitely smacks of that, but I'm less sure right now about the males. On this, though, we definitely will have to wait and see.


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Well, Patrick Weekes actually wrote Samantha Traynor before he came to DA, but he's writing Iron Bull and Solas, not either of the same-sex options. DA tends to approach things differently. With Dorian and Sera being party members, I'm hopeful that they'll at least be more developed and plot important than the ME NPCs were. It's true, though, that straight LIs have tended towards being the more important ones. Cassandra definitely smacks of that, but I'm less sure right now about the males. On this, though, we definitely will have to wait and see.

One good thing I saw with Dorian was that he was explaining the Venatori in the Enemy of Thedas trailer. Meaning we probably get him quite early on. Which hopefully speaks to his plot relevance.



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One good thing I saw with Dorian was that he was explaining the Venatori in the Enemy of Thedas trailer. Meaning we probably get him quite early on. Which hopefully speaks to his plot relevance.

Hopefully, but it depends on how important the Venatori actually are to the plot. I'm not sure how they fair in comparison to the red templar plot, the grey wardens, etc. There's a lot going on with DA:I, so it's hard to say what plots are going to be most important.

 

What we can be pretty sure of, I think, I that we basically start out with Cassandra, Cullen and Josephine. Which is.. at least two of the straight options.  :unsure:


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One good thing I saw with Dorian was that he was explaining the Venatori in the Enemy of Thedas trailer. Meaning we probably get him quite early on. Which hopefully speaks to his plot relevance.

I have a felling most of if not all will have big parts in the game Doiran was very relevant in the Red Cliff Demo till Liliana screwed it up.

Solas is a fade expert so it seems he will probably be a big help with the breach in general. 

Who know what other character roles are going to be.



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Hopefully, but it depends on how important the Venatori actually are to the plot. I'm not sure how they fair in comparison to the red templar plot, the grey wardens, etc. There's a lot going on with DA:I, so it's hard to say what plots are going to be most important.

 

What we can be pretty sure of, I think, I that we basically start out with Cassandra, Cullen and Josephine. Which is.. at least two of the straight options.  :unsure:

If we start with Cass, I'd say we also start with Varric. So that's probably our two starting Party Members. If I had to guess I'd say Viv would be the next. Blackwall would come up whenever the Warden plot becomes relevant. Everything else is pretty hard to guess.



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Well I'm done with race gating talk, its just the same theories over and over again and its really going nowhere. All its doing is making people worried and paranoid so I'm leaving it alone till they announce the last one. Keep in mind the last time I said this Solas was announced the very next day. 


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If we start with Cass, I'd say we also start with Varric. So that's probably our two starting Party Members. If I had to guess I'd say Viv would be the next. Blackwall would come up whenever the Warden plot becomes relevant. Everything else is pretty hard to guess.

They said Vivienne throws you a party to get your attention, so I think you might actually have to make a name for yourself before she would do it. I mean, you have to impress her enough that she makes the effort and I doubt Vivienne impresses easily. So, I could actually see Vivienne being one of the later ones you pick up. Sera comes and finds you, too, so I think maybe she might be on the later half, too.   


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Well I'm done with race gating talk, its just the same theories over and over again and its really going nowhere. All its doing is making people worried and paranoid so I'm leaving it alone till they announce the last one. Keep in mind the last time I said this Solas was announced the very next day. 

Continue to say it over and over then. End this madness !



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They said Vivienne throws you a party to get your attention, so I think you might actually have to make a name for yourself before she would do it. I mean, you have to impress her enough that she makes the effort and I doubt Vivienne impresses easily. So, I could actually see Vivienne being one of the later ones you pick up. Sera comes and finds you, too, so I think maybe she might be on the later half, too.   

That's a good point. Cole is hard to place since we know so little about him. I'd say Solas is also early on since it's been said he joins after seeing the breach and knowing that the inquisition will need someone with knowledge of the Fade. Bull really can't be placed either since he doesn't seem to have any plot relevance so far.



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pfft I wish the moment they do I'll be off here for a while but then again I want a break from romance talk lol but one member of this forum was at PAX and a writer told her that they would announce the last one soon so I'd look for it this week or at least this month. Surely they won't wait till a month before the game releases to finish announcing all the LIs especially since they have been announcing them in pairs. 



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pfft I wish the moment they do I'll be off here for a while but then again I want a break from romance talk lol but one member of this forum was at PAX and a writer told her that they would announce the last one soon so I'd look for it this week or at least this month. Surely they won't wait till a month before the game releases to finish announcing all the LIs especially since they have been announcing them in pairs. 

I've heard a lot of people throwing around the idea that that blog post mentioned by Mr.Darrah might be posted this weekend. We'll have to see.



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yeah he said something about "same time next week?" so we will see I have a feeling though if he hadn't announced Solas by accident we would of got the blog by now MAYBE 



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Well, I was going to troll this thread by announcing that we just got confirmation of the last LI by leading you to a Rick Roll video on Youtube, but since the damn service plays ads first before the actual video itself, that's shot to hell and back.

 

But really, I'll just advise not to get too invested in what could be the announcement, like what a couple of posters have said before. I could wish one way because of so many reasons, but in the end, it's already been decided and there's only so much we can say now for the next game. At this point, I'll probably just blog about what I think later on rather than repeat what everyone else had said here. But eh,now I'm just more invested in how the characters, particularly my favourites so far, really play out.

 

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That's a good point. Cole is hard to place since we know so little about him. I'd say Solas is also early on since it's been said he joins after seeing the breach and knowing that the inquisition will need someone with knowledge of the Fade. Bull really can't be placed either since he doesn't seem to have any plot relevance so far.

I think some of them, like Iron Bull and Blackwall, might just depend on you going to a specific area to get them. It's likely that a lot of them depend on when you decide to pick them up. You can probably do some recruitment quests before others, just depending on what quest you follow up on first. I imagine the only ones that are set are the ones you start with, the people that founded the Inquisition with you, and the ones like Vivienne and Sera that they say find you. I imagine they show up once you've hit a certain marker, like you grow the Inquistion enough or something like that. That's just my guess as to how it will work.



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By the way, the last LI is Varric (heterosexual, race-gated to dwarves only). The devs were just fooling when they said he wasn't romanceable.

Don't joke about this bro...it still hurts.  :crying:


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#2672
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Don't joke about this bro...it still hurts.  :crying:

Sorry, I suppose it was too soon...


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Sorry, I suppose it was too soon...

I was joking, but yeah it does still kind of suck. 



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I mean, I am a Demisexual, and this seems kinda weird. Yeah Aces surprisingly get their own bigotry. Every pro LGBT but anti Asexual person throws me. But honestly, many asexuals are aromantic so they are covered. Demiromantics could fit several romances with slight head canon. And asexuals will fit once they decentralize sex in some playthroughs. Nevermind that while we face invisibility and the insistance we are messed up, LGBT people have it worse.

 

I mean the romantics still can enjoy the same content, and as a homoromantic I feel focusing on LGBT is focussing on me. Sebastian was the only one that was actually inconsiderate and just rude from that point. I do feel that homosexual men have lost out and here's hoping there are many more options for them in the future.

 

Yeah, I do know what you mean. A lot of the times I just laugh it off, but in a perfect world, I'd like to see a romance tailored to me. Which would mean a rad bromance with hugging, since I'm a pretty low-key ace myself.

 

I don't know; I'm easily confused by the whole kit and kaboodle.

 

But I really like warm fuzzy stories. Right now I'm doing DA:O and decided to go for Zevran, and it's all a little more uncomfortable than I remembered.  ;) But I'll stick it out for the sweet stuff.


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Well I'm heading to bed, since this will be my last night talking about race gating till the announcement comes I'll post my final lineup for romance options,

 

Cassandra-  Male Only

Cullen- Female Only

Sera- Female Only

Dorian- Male Only

Iron Bull- Bi

Josephine- Bi

Solas- Female Elves Only

Vivienne- Male and Female Humans Only