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#3326
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I'm not going to get into the debate of who deserves what but I will kindly say that I hope this is as satisfying as possible for everyone who deems it highly important to their BioWare experience.

 

I will not pass judgment on whether or not I am pleased until I have played the game; right now all I really have on the characters are blurbs, anyway. But here at the outset, I am intrigued. I would have been even more intrigued with one further straight male option but after the ME3 straight female end of the stick I can't say as I mind just the two.


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lesbians get 2

 

straight men get 2

 

And Cass open for everyone!

 

Why do they torment me with Cassandra!



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Or missed Leliana by just not entering one place. And IIRC straight women could end up with no romance in ME3 by choosing the male LI over female LI to die.

they'd sill have Garrus if romanced in ME2, but there;s no doubt FemShep got the short end of the stick



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Eeer, I'm sorry but I do hope Bioware didn't think " well they had less options than everyone in an episode from another franchise which has nothing to do with dragon age, ' so we'll give them more romances than others and specifically for them. They deserve it. " 

 

Because otherwise, they didn't need to give Blackwall as straight, gay men also always had less. So it's a bit ugh. 

 

That's a crappy thing to do in my opinion. If you care so much about something like that, then give equal options to everyone, you'll see that everyone is satisfied, even those who always had less in the past. 

 

No, I'd rather have this justification about story reasons and consistency. I do not believe that what happens in mass effect should affect dragon age in this way. 


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There were two straight female options in ME 3.

only if Kaidan was alive from ME1 and Garrus was romanced in ME2


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There were two straight female options in ME 3.

3, actually. Garrus, Thane, and Kaidan.


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#3332
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By the way, goodness. I feel like at some point I blinked and miss the mass fandom embrace toward Atlus. These days it seems like the two developers up and fused. I wonder if it was Elizabeth's doing.



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On the one hand, I do feel some pleasure in the fact that it IS women who are ultimately ending up with the most options for once, especially in light of the disaster that was ME3 potentially leaving female Shepard with only lesbian options because of one plot-mandated death and one forced unceremonious dumping, with the only other option for a new heterosexual romance being potentially dead or potentially killed off, so I suppose this might count as a balm for that. Plus it is a good showing of demographic shift, how the audience of video games has increasing amounts of women.

 

On the other, though... Yeah, I'm still not so pleased with this, because it is an unequal distribution, coming off the heels of DA2, which was, barring Sebastian, an even split for all. Yes, I do believe that LI's should be divided up equally and fairly, because why the **** shouldn't they be? Don't you dare use any argument of realism, because we're starting from a fantasy video game. I give not one single flying fornication about realism. I care about being treated equally, something that I don't get in real life and want to see in my escape. This does leave me a little disappointed and feeling even a little slighted. Especially when looking at the way it shakes out look really off-kilter, while there was this big fan push and idea of a 4/4 gender split and 2/4/2 for sexualities. A lot of the fans from where I was standing seems pretty content with that idea, because it was giving everyone equal consideration and treatment.

 

And I think that the way that this was drawn out is the biggest issue from this. The writers and developers knew going in who was and was not romanceable, knew for months, from the time it was announced that DAI would have some of the most LIs in a BioWare game ever and that they wouldn't be available to everyone to this reveal of everyone, and then instead of waiting for a single reveal, there's instead a steady drip of one or two at a time, including reveals of non-romance status, so that when the inevitable letting down occurred because someone had pinned hopes on a character who isn't an option happened, there was nothing soothing that, no counterbalance. This felt a lot like being baited, being jerked around, and all I really see coming out of the way that these LI reveals have been handled is that there's been a breach of trust and faith in BioWare because of it - no one wants to be strung along.


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In this game, yes.

 

At least you have LI representation. 

No, as it seems not even in this game it's the same...



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they'd sill have Garrus if romanced in ME2, but there;s no doubt FemShep got the short end of the stick

 

Well...Hale usually does get the short end of the stick i mean look at some of the games she was in...



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Well there is already a version five...

 

so is this one locked or is it resumed or what?


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#3338
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No, as it seems not even in this game it's the same...

Straight males: 1 companion, 1 advisor

Gay females: 1 companion, 1 advisor

 

I am not seeing how it is different. 


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I believe it was locked to get our attention and make everyone stuck by their computers to take a deep breath and pour themselves some tea.

 

...It's STILL snowing outside.

 

In retrospect, this was possibly the best timing they could have in announcing things, as far as I'm concerned.

 

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I'm incredibly disappointed in Bioware. Cullen's gates for humans and elves is the vast majority of female players, anyway. We're talking very likely well over 80%. It's a joke that he's even gated. This is ridiculous. 


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The worst part of this all is the fact that they chose to give two extra options to the same gender and sexuality. 


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So DA made more female options cause in mass effect they screwed up with the female romances.

 

Seems pretty evident that next game will have more gay male options, and so everyone can rag on them for having more now, and people can use retroactive fallacies to defend why the imbalance is good.

 

And the circle goes unbroken, by and by, by and by.


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Straight males: 1 companion, 1 advisor
Gay females: 1 companion, 1 advisor
 
I am not seeing how it is different.


Both options for straight male are hot. No complaints.
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#3344
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Meh, I'm used to it. DA2 disappointed me in the romance segment. Now I have to choose between an jerkishy knight or an aparently dull Rivain noble (unless I'm proven otherwise). I think I will not romance anyone at all with my human mage. *heavy sigh*



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So DA made more female options cause in mass effect they screwed up with the female romances.

 

Seems pretty evident that next game will have more gay male options, and so everyone can rag on them for having more now, and people can use retroactive fallacies to defend why the imbalance is good.

 

And the circle goes unbroken, by and by, by and by. There's no better home awaiting, In the sky, in the sky.

 

They screwed up with the gay romances in all other mass effect games. and in ME3 gay people have still the same amount of options as heterosexual females, not more than them.



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Silent moment for gay anythings, lesbian anythings, straight males, female dwarves and female qunaris.

 

That's quite many of characters who don't get more than 2 options :(


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Hanako Ikezawa

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Meh, I'm used to it. DA2 disappointed me in the romance segment. Now I have to choose between an jerkishy knight or an aparently dull Rivain noble (unless I'm proven otherwise). I think I will not romance anyone at all with my human mage. *heavy sigh*

Josephine is from Antiva, not Rivain.



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Dabrikishaw

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Whatever. I'm going to romance everyone.

 

YAY FOR OPTIONS!



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You are compensating for ME3, aren't you?

C'mon, you can come out and say, we won't be upset.


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Silent moment for gay anythings, lesbian anythings, straight males, female dwarves and female qunaris.

 

That's quite many of characters who don't get more than 2 options :(

WHy? My female qunari is getting her lovings.