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[Lieutenant Kurin]

I think most people are just making guesses because Allan said there was a reason Vivienne wasn't a romance that made sense to him. I don't think characters need a hard set reason not to want romance, but it seems likely there is something, from what we've been told.  

 

Honestly, she, as a person, could say 'there's a tear in the sky, we have more important things to think about than this', would be MORE than enough of a reason. The reason it's often not is because she has been written, and thus many people think having a romance open from her would be easy, whether or not it fits with her character. I once had a Warden who #diedalone, because 'lovemaking during a blight is a waste of time'. Not every person is DTF no matter the crisis. 

 

That being said, I think the devs realize the issues many people would have, she probably has a great reason. I suppose we'll have to wait and see.

[BabyFratelli]

A happy, undramatic relationship where everyone lives?

That's not gonna happen.

 

If Viv has a past relationship, they were probably turned tranquil and half her reason for joining the Inquisition is figuring out how to untranquilize them, ultimately culminating in her just managing to cure them as they lay dying in her arms during her personal quest. 

 

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[Not a Cat Doll]

If Viv has a past relationship, they were probably turned tranquil and half her reason for joining the Inquisition is figuring out how to untranquilize them, ultimately culminating in her just managing to cure them as they lay dying in her arms during her personal quest. 

 

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You stop that, you shameless Sybil! You're probably right though...

[Ryzaki]

A happy, undramatic relationship where everyone lives?

That's not gonna happen.

 

=(

 

Let me have my dream damnit. Let me have it.

[Maria Caliban]

If Viv has a past relationship, they were probably turned tranquil and half her reason for joining the Inquisition is figuring out how to untranquilize them, ultimately culminating in her just managing to cure them as they lay dying in her arms during her personal quest. 
 
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[BabyFratelli]

Congratulations.

I look forward to a thousand more.

 

Shucks, you. 

[Allazor]

After the Blackwall reveal my heart just failed me a bit, i'm sad but Ability Drain made it all better XD See below 

 

[XMissWooX]

^Just watched that video on mute with subtitles/CC.

 

"Do you let him [Blackwall] master paint?"

 

Had to turn it off 'cause I was laughing too hard.

[Lady Luminous]

 

This one?
 

 

 

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You stated in the panel that you can't have two romances but can you be in a romance and still flirt with the non companion?

 

Patrick Weekes ‏@PatrickWeekes

Once you have started a romance, most flirts with everyone else get locked off. A few friendly ones might stick around, though.

 

Noooo. How am I supposed to be a Lothario and chase every skirt and make my LI mad? That was the best DA:O scene, flirting with Izzy and making Leli all "Do I mean nothing to you?"! 

[DeityDi]

 

I personally can't understand such a sick pleasure some people have doing that, buuut... still it's a waste of opportunity. 

[Lady Luminous]

 

I personally can't understand such a sick pleasure some people have doing that, buuut... still it's a waste of opportunity. 

It's called roleplaying.

 

I play the whole hero saves the world and gets the girl/guy the proper way the first playthrough, and then in subsequent playthroughs I **** things up to various degrees.  

[Panda]

 

I personally can't understand such a sick pleasure some people have doing that, buuut... still it's a waste of opportunity. 

 

For some reasons than playing as evil character I guess. IRL I wouldn't consider cheating but having Warden who leaned in evil side and had some romance going on with both Leliana and Morrigan at same time until they made him chose (I'd have personally just left the guy ).

 

My character is just isn't me and I don't feel quilty over cheating LI with character. Well there is some choices what I can't still do no matter how evil my character is like killing (most) of companions, slaughtering dalish clan etc.

[ladyofpayne]

Flirt option.

[Harlot]

I'll just say what I said in another thread.

There is some life lesson in being the least "represented" sexuality (romance wise) in a game for a change. Obviously I'm really sad about Vivienne. I love strong female characters like Morrigan, Jack or Isabela and Viv fits this perfectly. Cassandra does too though but her character isn't as interesting to me.

That said I suppose it's time for straight males in the community to start working hard on showing that we care about LIs as much as female part of the community does . Fingers crossed we get more variety in the next BioWare game.

That said, this decision doesn't make or break the game in any way. Way more important things on the horizon to look out for before BioWare can get back in my graces.

[Gwydden]

I personally can't understand such a sick pleasure some people have doing that, buuut... still it's a waste of opportunity. 

That's like saying I defiled the ashes in that one play through because of the "sick pleasure" I get from desecrating religious symbols. Or that I killed Connor because I secretly enjoy murdering children. I can't speak for other people, but personally I do these things because:

1. Roleplaying. Why be a perfectly flawless goody two shoes every time?
2. Variety. I want to see what happens if I try different things. If I do the same things every time it will get boring fast.
3. Enjoyment. It's a game. One of its big selling points is that I can do things I couldn't and/or wouldn't do in real life. Like killing hordes of scoundrels, deciding on the fate of both individual people and entire countries, and occasionally cheating on your partner. I don't see anyone accusing people of deriving a "sick pleasure" from the killings of thousands of people at their hands, or from exercising absolute control over other's lives.

I'm not even sure why does cheating even qualify as a "sick pleasure". Morally reprehensible, sure, but hardly "sick".

[Cainhurst Crow]

If Viv has a past relationship, they were probably turned tranquil and half her reason for joining the Inquisition is figuring out how to untranquilize them, ultimately culminating in her just managing to cure them as they lay dying in her arms during her personal quest. 

 

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To be honest, this doesn't really gel with what's been said about her personality wise, about her being a loyalist to the circle system and wanting it and the power plays within the circle preserved.

 

Personally the whole fighting to cure the tranquil doesn't sound like it'd go well in supporting the circle system that tranquilized supposed ex-lover whose her entire motivation in the story in the first place. If she felt strong enough for that person that she'd go through the great lengths to cure him, why preserve the system that did that to him after he was tranquilized?

 

But whatevs, personally I think vivienne is just not going to be interested in the inquisitor because they are the inquisistor. They're a tool to seal up the viel tears, and once thats done they could still be either a threat to her power or a necessary stepping stone she'll need to step over in her pursuit to gaining more power within the circle. And the thing you don't do as a politically savvy person is get attached to people who help you on your road to power.

[BabyFratelli]

To be honest, this doesn't really gel with what's been said about her personality wise, about her being a loyalist to the circle system and wanting it and the power plays within the circle preserved.

 

Personally the whole fighting to cure the tranquil doesn't sound like it'd go well in supporting the circle system that tranquilized supposed ex-lover whose her entire motivation in the story in the first place. If she felt strong enough for that person that she'd go through the great lengths to cure him, why preserve the system that did that to him after he was tranquilized?

 

But whatevs, personally I think vivienne is just not going to be interested in the inquisitor because they are the inquisistor. They're a tool to seal up the viel tears, and once thats done they could still be either a threat to her power or a necessary stepping stone she'll need to step over in her pursuit to gaining more power within the circle. And the thing you don't do as a politically savvy person is get attached to people who help you on your road to power.

 

Cool. But, I was joking. 

[Cainhurst Crow]

Cool. But, I was joking. 

 

My bad, no worries.

[Deviija]

I'm not gonna lie, I would LOVE to have another companion who is already in a relationship.  I don't mind someone who's just not interested, but I'd like to see more people who are already in relationships.  In DA, out of the companions, only Aveline is currently married while she's a companion.  Then we have Isabela and Oghren who are widowed (although I guess technically, Oghren was married still to Branka when he first joins and then could be married to Felsi again in DA: A).

 

I liked that we had Jaheira and Khalid who were already married and together in BG.  Although, we all know how well that turned out for Khalid......

 

Hah, as I was reading the post, I was thinking of Jaheira and Khalid and was already itching to reply.  And then you mentioned them.  Yes, this is something I would absolutely LOVE to see among companions.  A married couple that is actually, for the most part, happy and a scrappy team together.  Somewhat like how Lily and Marshal from How I Met Your Mother are as a married couple.  They're shown as not just spouses but actually friends and companions.  How I'd love to see sad married companion couple make snide remarks to the Big Bad at the dramatic showdown, then gleefully high-five each other for the burn.  

 

On the topic of Vivienne's unavailability reasons?  Frankly, her gesturing ALL over the Inquisitor and simply saying, "Nuh-uh.  Not interested in any of that." is good enough reason for me.  Sometimes people just are not interested in you romantically, or interested in relationships at the current time of their life, and it is valid.

[Maria Caliban]

 
I personally can't understand such a sick pleasure some people have doing that, buuut... still it's a waste of opportunity.

80% of Dragon Age: Inquisition will be focused on killing things.

You're paying for a mass murder simulator, but think flirting when in a relationship is sick.

[TheJediSaint]

80% of Dragon Age: Inquisition will be focused on killing things.

You're paying for a mass murder simulator, but think flirting when in a relationship is sick.

Flirting around means less time spent murdering things.

[Wissenschaft]

Wait? All other rommances are blocked off once you start one? We won't get jealous bickering among our LIs, thats horrible.

[Icy Magebane]

Wait? All other rommances are blocked off once you start one? We won't get jealous bickering among our LIs, thats horrible.

Yeah, that's really lame... well, I'm sure they had a good reason for it... probably...

 

Also, that dev quote seems to imply that once you start any relationship, that's the only one you can pursue for the whole game.  So there's no changing your mind either... at least, that's what it sounds like.

[Gwydden]

Wait? All other rommances are blocked off once you start one? We won't get jealous bickering among our LIs, thats horrible.

Too many variables. Too expensive to account for all of them.