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[Gwydden]

It helps that she's smoking hot.

Quality issue, as Daveliam pointed out: it's entirely subjective 

[AresKeith]

You know, I think it's the hetero people that are getting the short end of the stick, because the other option for them is an ADVISOR that can't go out adventuring with you.

I'm perfectly fine with my other option being an advisor

[Nocte ad Mortem]

I think people in general need to stop  looking at the number and more about the quality the character represent. 

Well, the thing is, the straight characters are often also the most plot involved and developed ones. So, we're mostly up the river on that account, also.

[daveliam]

What has the Montreal team done to you? 

 

Is ME 4 being done by a different team?  I didn't know that.  Well then, I retract what I say about my prospects for representation in future ME games.

 

Okay. Looking at the chart, it seems that things are pretty equal.

 

Gay men have Dorian and Iron Bull

Lesbians have Sera and Josephine

Hetero men have Cassandra and Josephine

Hetero women have Cullen and Iron Bull

 

Solas is out on his own because he only wants to be with elf girls, so a player has to choose to play as an elf to get him.

 

So other than the odd elf thing, it seems pretty even across the board that everyone has equal representation.

 

But Solas does count as a straight female romance and there's still one more romance to be announced and it's likely to be a bisexual woman.  So, once again, gay men will have the least amount of options in this case.  Yes, it's not confirmed at this point.  It's speculation, but it's definitely the most commonly accepted prediction.

 

Sorry, I have hard time counting Solas as option for straight females since he's option for only 25% of them. He sure isn't romance option for my qunari ladys.

 

He's a romance (confirmed by devs).  And he's romanceable by straight females (confirmed by devs).  Thus, he's a straight female romance.  Not all straight females can romance him, but some straight females can so that's why he counts.

[Fiery Phoenix]

Is ME 4 being done by a different team?  I didn't know that.  Well then, I retract what I say about my prospects for representation in future ME games.

Yes, the same team that did ME3's MP (Montreal studio).

[Ceoldoren]

I'm curious, if Blackwall ends up as the last romance (and bisexual) would that change anyone's feeling about this situation around here?

It would make me happy, but I have a bias towards that. And lesbians would still be screwed.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

You don't think DAI is an improvement over ME3 and DA2?

I don't see any evidence that it's an improvement. Two options is two options. It's been the same.

[daveliam]

I don't think the situation for gay male players in Inquisition is anywhere near as bad as people are making it out to be. Before the announcement of Solas as an LI they were the only demographic to have two companion LI's (except for bisexuals, obviously), and even now they are the only demographic who have two companion Li's as any race, at least that we are aware of.

 

Of course I don't draw much distinction between companion LI and advisor Li myself, but some people have been quite vocal in the past that to them getting to take their LI's everywhere with them is the most important aspect of Bioware romances, and that they would always favour companion romances over advisor ones. To them it may seem that the gay male players get the best deal with regards to romances in Inquisition.

 

And this is assuming Blackwall isn't a same-gender LI.

You know, I think it's the hetero people that are getting the short end of the stick, because the other option for them is an ADVISOR that can't go out adventuring with you.

 

The devs have already confirmed that advisor and companion romances are equitable in terms of content.  Plus, most people are fine with advisor romances.  See below:

 

I'm perfectly fine with my other option being an advisor

[Chanda]

It helps that Josephine is smoking hot.

 

 

Edit:  Also, Cullen is Cullen.

 

Cullen is Cullen meaning you could care less about Cullen? But the point stands. Hetero people don't get to go adventuring around with their lover like Gay people do. (Maybe not so for lesbian players since their other option is Josephine) Gay men get Dorian AND Iron Bull, who both go get to kick butt with you.

[Ynqve]

I just want to say that while I get the concern regarding advisors and their role vs the companions, as well as the straight LI's involvement vs the LGB LI's, it's far to early to say anything about them. We have no idea which character will be the Anders/Alistair/Morrigan of inquisition and have a larger impact on the story. Feeling worried due to Bioware's track record is fine, but let's give the new characters a chance!

[Gwydden]

I don't see any evidence that it's an improvement. Two options is two options. It's been the same.

That's the same everyone has. Except straight females, who got an extra one in DA2, and straight males, who got a hell of a lot in ME3.

[Char]

You know, I think it's the hetero people that are getting the short end of the stick, because the other option for them is an ADVISOR that can't go out adventuring with you.

Straight females have three options. One of them being an advisor doesn't change that, or make the two companions any less! What about lesbian women who at the moment have only one companion option-Sera, and one advisor. By your logic this must surely be worse.

EDIT: For personal opinions' sake, I should just add that I don't feel slighted at all to have the highest number of available LI's. I feel guilty, but not slighted, and my Inquisitor will be romancing Cullen

[Ianamus]

The devs have already confirmed that advisor and companion romances are equitable in terms of content.  Plus, most people are fine with advisor romances.  See below:

 

I know, I was just pointing out that two companion LI's would be seen as superior to some people.

 

Also, I think Blackwall is more likely at this point than Vivienne. Or straight female dwarves and gay male dwarves would have had only one option before Iron Bull was un-gated. In fact, straight female dwarves would not have had a single companion romance!

[WildOrchid]

That's kinda unfair

 

No it's not. No one mentioned about "deep writing" or "deep characters" back then and now that people care that there are some gay/bi people, suddenly the others say we should care about "writing" and not numbers where in the old games there were only straight characters (and hardly one gay).

 

I do care about deep characters. I also do care if the said character is gay.

 

It grinds my gears a little when people imply that i don't care (or others) about "quality" when I talk about gay characters.

[TheJediSaint]

Cullen is Cullen meaning you could care less about Cullen? But the point stands. Hetero people don't get to go adventuring around with their lover like Gay people do. (Maybe not so for lesbian players since their other option is Josephine) Gay men get Dorian AND Iron Bull, who both go get to kick butt with you.

What I meant by Cullen is Cullen is that he's the most requested romantic interest that I'v ever seen, with the most active thread in the forum.  It wasn't a dismissal, but an acknowledgment that's he's kind of a big deal.

 

I'm a straight man, and I am very satisfied with my options.  Hot warrior woman and smexy exotic noblewoman.  What more could I ask for?

[Chanda]

The devs have already confirmed that advisor and companion romances are equitable in terms of content.  Plus, most people are fine with advisor romances.  See below:

 

I had to come to terms with Cullen being an advisor a long time ago. I was really heartbroken that he wasn't a full-fledged companion. He was the one character that I was really interested in. I'm not that in to Iron Bull. I have to play as an elf to be with Solas, also another character that I wasn't all that into. So as a hetero female who wanted to go adventuring with her love interest, I feel pretty screwed. But again, I've come to terms with the fact that Cullen is stuck at Skyhold while I go run around the countryside.

[WildOrchid]

You know, I think it's the hetero people that are getting the short end of the stick, because the other option for them is an ADVISOR that can't go out adventuring with you.

 

Well, the recent NPC's aren't like Cortez or Traynor type where they had like 3-4 romance lines, ridiculous romance scenes.

 

They get equal amount as the companions.

[Chari]

IWe have no idea which character will be the Anders/Alistair/Morrigan of inquisition and have a larger impact on the story.

Beware of the one who wears dark feathers on the shoulders
*glares at Morrigan*
*glares at Anders*
*glares at Cullen*
*whispers: "I am watching you"*

[Panda]

He's a romance (confirmed by devs).  And he's romanceable by straight females (confirmed by devs).  Thus, he's a straight female romance.  Not all straight females can romance him, but some straight females can so that's why he counts.

 

He's elf romance, for people who play elf who's female and straight.

I just mean that he's no more option for straight qunari than he's to gay elf.

 

12,5% of possible Inquisitors can romance him. I can't be happy with that.

[AresKeith]

What I meant by Cullen is Cullen is that he's the most requested romantic interest that I'v ever seen, with the most active thread in the forum. It wasn't a dismissal, but an acknowledgment that's he's kind of a big deal.

I'm a straight man, and I am very satisfied with my options. Hot warrior woman and smexy exotic noblewoman. What more could I ask for?

A sassy First Enchanted?

[Gwydden]

What I meant by Cullen is Cullen is that he's the most requested romantic interest that I'v ever seen, with the most active thread in the forum.  It wasn't a dismissal, but an acknowledgment that's he's kind of a big deal.

 

I'm a straight man, and I am very satisfied with my options.  Hot warrior woman and smexy exotic noblewoman.  What more could I ask for?

I'm okay with whatever we get. I don't find any of the options for straight men particularly interesting nor particularly uninteresting, but then I didn't expect differently.

[TheJediSaint]

A sassy First Enchanted?

Bonus if so.  No big deal if not.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

Honestly, nothing grates on me more than when straight people start "not counting" options that clearly exist. I really hate to be overtly hostile, but what this shows is that you seriously don't understand what it's like to really, actually not have options that do exist. Gays and lesbians consistently deal with really having less options. Not ones that they write off because they don't meet all the requirements you like. I would love to have Solas as an extra option for elves in addition to two more viable options. I would love to have the ability to romance Garrus, a long standing, favorite party member with an incredibly well developed backstory, rather than an NPC that shows up in the last game with nothing to talk about but his dead husband. 

 

And it's even more grating after being told repeatedly that I "don't appreciate what I get". I'm really sorry, but this issue makes me want to tear my hair out.

[Gwydden]

A sassy First Enchanted?

Meh 

[ClassicBox]

As far as representation goes, right now it is fairly equal. Solas just threw it off by one. So far the sexual orientations are pretty much equal. There are; 2 bisexuals (Josephine and Iron Bull), 3 straight (Cullen, Solas, Casandra), and 2 gay female and male(Sera and Dorian) 

 

I agree that I will wait until we actually know the last LI to cast further judgement. Maybe, just maybe the last LI will be gay (either woman or man). In which case representation will be awesome. LI choices are a different story, but representation is pretty even right now. ^-^