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#1751
Hanako Ikezawa

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Demisexuality is considered to be on the asexuality scale by many people.  In addition asexuals may define themselves as aromantic, panromantic, biromantic, heteroromantic or homoromantic.  "Asexual" is a very broad term.  If you'd like to learn more, this is a great website.  I always point the curious in that direction, lots of great discussion there.   :)

 

I always heard demisexuality was between asexuality and sexuality. 



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If everyone still had at least two options before Ironbull's racegate was removed, then Blackwall has to be the last the romance.



#1753
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I think it will be Blackwall. Probably bi.

 

Just can't believe they'd have given straight female dwarves 0 companion LI's before Iron Bull had his race gating removed.

 

Advisors should not be discounted.  It's been made clear that they have as much content as companions.



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Best case scenario for me:

 

Blackwall - bisexual (or gay) and ungated (with Cullen being the other race-gated one)

 

Also a good scenario for me:

 

Vivienne - bisexual (or lesbian) and ungated (with either Cassandra or Sera being the other race-gated one)

 

Worst case scenario forme:

 

Either Vivienne OR Blackwall as a straight option OR Dorian as a gated option


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If everyone still had at least two options before Ironbull's racegate was removed, then Blackwall has to be the last the romance.

 

Do we even know for sure if everybody (both genders, all races) has at least two options anyway?



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Yeah, I don't get it either. There are other things most ppl care more.... unless romance is indeed that popular outside of BSN. :unsure:

 

Yeah it's just =/

 

Hopefully this won't happen for DA4 =/



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I still think it's going to be gay Blackwall. Ser Bara is back! ;)

This would give male and female inquisitors same number of romances.



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If everyone still had at least two options before Ironbull's racegate was removed, then Blackwall has to be the last the romance.

That's true, but whether everyone did is a shaky point. There's a quote from Allan saying he didn't think everyone had two options at one point. David Gaider said they used the chart to make sure everyone got to options at GaymerX and he used "gay male dwarves" as an example. We've been told that Iron Bull was only ungated because Epler put in his own time at home to make it happen. So, it's a lot of conflicting information on this.



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If everyone still had at least two options before Ironbull's racegate was removed, then Blackwall has to be the last the romance.

 

This is the only piece of evidence that is giving me hope that it's going to be Blackwall.

 

Since Iron Bull was until recently gated against dwarves, then straight female and gay male dwarves would have had only one option each (Cullen and Dorian, respectively).  I think the fact that Gaider specifically used gay male dwarves as his example for a group that has two options bodes well for us.  The only question was if that statement was made before or after IB was ungated.



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Do we even know for sure if everybody (both genders, all races) has at least two options anyway?


No, we've been told several times that race doesn't matter to the developers.

This is the only piece of evidence that is giving me hope that it's going to be Blackwall.

Since Iron Bull was until recently gated against dwarves, then straight female and gay male dwarves would have had only one option each (Cullen and Dorian, respectively). I think the fact that Gaider specifically used gay male dwarves as his example for a group that has two options bodes well for us. The only question was if that statement was made before or after IB was ungated.


It was at GaymerX, where they announced Iron Bull being available for everyone.

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Do we even know for sure if everybody (both genders, all races) has at least two options anyway?

We know that everyone will get two options now, but we don't know for sure if they did before Iron Bull was ungated.



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It was at GaymerX, where they announced Iron Bull being available for everyone.

 

Ah, well then that doesn't mean a whole lot, huh.  Well, it was fun while it lasted.



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If Blackwall or Vivenne aren't bi and are gated from dwarfs I'll be sad not throwing windows through chairs sad but still sad. I'm also hoping that the other gated LI isn't as heavily gated as Solas is.


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We know that everyone will get two options now, but we don't know for sure if they did before Iron Bull was ungated.

 

But where was it stated that every character, regardless of gender AND race, would have at least two love interests?



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But where was it stated that every character, regardless of gender AND race, would have at least two love interests?

It wasn't, in truth. I recall that at the time of the race gate 'reveal' Allan said that he wasn't sure if every race-gender combo would get at least two options.

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Last time I checked if Vivienne is Bi and humans only everyone will have 2 options except human straight males, human gay females and straight female elves who will have 3 options each 



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Last time I checked if Vivienne is Bi and humans only everyone will have 2 options except human straight males, human gay females and straight female elves who will have 3 options each 

 

Suppose Vivienne isn't even romanceable and Cassandra is race-gated...the implications are unfortunate :(



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But where was it stated that every character, regardless of gender AND race, would have at least two love interests?

 

Wasn't that the whole point of the discussion that Gaider had at GaymerX where he discussed how The Chart helped them make sure that everyone had choices (and then he used gay male dwarf as an example)?



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But where was it stated that every character, regardless of gender AND race, would have at least two love interests?

David Gaider said it at the GaymerX panel (it's on YouTube, just search "Bioware GaymerX", if you want) and Allan said it on the forums. His quote was posted earlier, I'll look for it or Phate Phoenix might show up randomly before I find it, as she tends to do. lol

 

What David Gaider said was that they used the chart to make sure everyone got 2 options. He used an example that was basically, "we can't do that because gay male dwarves would be totally screwed", and he said the baseline they set for every group was 2 and that they used "the chart" to keep track.

 

Allan's forum quote said everyone would get two, but he didn't think it was always the case.

 

So, it's conflicting information. Was Iron Bull included in the chart because Epler had already made the commitment to fixing him? I don't know.   



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I personally dont care what they do with the last LI (Cass & Josephine are more than enough for me) so long as they aren't gonna be straight.
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#1771
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Yeah it's just =/

 

Hopefully this won't happen for DA4 =/

they are better people than I am.  after seeing all of this if i was in charge of DA4 I would just say screw it and do away with it.  Say it causes issues and problems and the community is better without it.

 

make more game content that everyone will enjoy because thats what we are.....gamers.



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Suppose Vivienne isn't even romanceable and Cassandra is race-gated...the implications are unfortunate :(

Yeah, that's my worst case scenario... but it's entirely possible so I'd rather know about it sooner than later.



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they are better people than I am.  after seeing all of this if i was in charge of DA4 I would just say screw it and do away with it.  Say it causes issues and problems and the community is better without it.

 

make more game content that everyone will enjoy because thats what we are.....gamers.

Removing one of the features that makes the series, and all Bioware titles for that matter, unique because people on the forum argue about it too much?  Sorry, I don't get it.  -_-


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#1774
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My best case scenario would be Blackwall being available for m/m romance. Either gay or bi is fine. 

 

I definitely would feel bad for those that got fewer options, though.



#1775
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My best case is having the unannounced LI be the other racegated one. 


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