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[mordy_was_here]

 

What's being said is that, if Bioware insists on making equal options, what's fair is to mix up who gets the extra ones. I don't believe what LGB players actually mean is that they want to keep getting those options until the 8 options gay men have gotten catch up with the mid-30s options that straight men have gotten. I think what we mean is that they start changing it out every time. So, last time straight women got Sebastian. This time it could have been gay men to get Solas, maybe then straight men, then lesbians, then straight women again. What's being said is that, as long as Bioware insists on making extras, equality in the long term means switching who gets the extra options across their releases. 

 

Thanks for clarifying, Morte. I think the best option for me right now is to stay away from the cesspool that Tumblr's DA:I tag is becoming.

[Cainhurst Crow]

That sounds like Aveline's "Get Donnic: Plan B"!

They;re common dowry gifts in fereldan you know.

[Deviija]

OH GOD IS THIS A WORD PROBLEM?

 

 

 

It will be on the test.  

[HK-90210]

I think we probably all agree that in an ideal world everyone would have equal options. However, since we know they won't be equal, people who have been catered to their whole lives (straight men and straight women, to a lesser extent) missing out probably wouldn't be so bad.

 

Personally, I find the argument that because someone was born a certain way(as straight males/females are) that they should be excluded from content due to 'history' a fairly weak argument. That's reverse discrimination, an abhorrent practice in my view.

 

Bringing a history of discrimination or being 'catered to' into the equation is a weak argument in my opinion, as it automatically assumes something about people who can not help the way they were born, and punishes them retroactively for the sins of society, rather than their own. All this does is create more hate and anger, rather than healing and understanding. It enflames entitlement and defensiveness on both sides, rather than bring a sense of mutual understanding and honest, constructive discussion.

 

This is my humble opinion, subject to my own preconceptions and background. As a flawed human being, I lay no claim to its infallibility. Simply a perspective worth considering, I hope.

[Dova]

There are many proponents for Blackwall to be a love interest as well. I just mentioned Vivienne because statistics seem to be in her favor.

I think Blackwall and Vivienne need to be left out. 

Blackwall would be like getting into a relationship with Duncan. 

[Puppy Love]

>let's not trust the researchers whose job it is to look at this

Actually animal intelligence is the hardest thing to research and verify.  A lot of it is educated guesses since we can't actually get into an animals mind.

 

Assuming anthropomorphic feelings in an animals actions is just as faulty as assuming an animals actions cannot possibly have similar motivations as our own.

 

Both make assumptions based upon unprovable evidence, and are assumption without facts.  It's deciding without research.  Is just bad science to go with either assumption.  Until we understand the mind more, either assumption is bad.

 

Just because someone researches something doesn't make them all knowing on said subject.  Especially the unknowable. 

[CrimsonN7]

Look guys... I know how to solve this problem. 

 

We need an elf, a duck, and a lion....

 

You're in luck, I cut some corners and found a ducklion.

 

 

someone else will have to raid an Alienage for an elf though.

[Cainhurst Crow]

So since whatever bioware decides to do with Baldy and Grumpy won't solve the problem, lets talk about the other romances shall we?

Let's start with Doriando Fabulosa. Anyone else not like his hair?

[Tytelr]

... Blackwall would be like getting into a relationship with Duncan. 

Sign me up. *shifty eyes*

[Tytelr]

So since whatever bioware decides to do with Baldy and Grumpy won't solve the problem, lets talk about the other romances shall we?

Let's start with Doriando Fabulosa. Anyone else not like his hair?

Actually, I didn't like ANYTHING about Dorian at first, but since hearing little tidbits... Well, I've grown fond of him.

In meat space, I can find someone physically unappealing at first but then find them to be incredibly attractive if I enjoy the person's company a great deal.

I'm weird like that. It leaked over into gaming, and now I think Dorian is beautiful despite him being a far cry from my "type."

[Nocte ad Mortem]

Personally I think general acceptance is all that can really be expected without turning the pursuit of equality into a witch hunt. In our world which I would describe as miles more tolerant and good natured then the past, there's still a lot of pockets of hate for all folks, but now these people are more or less pushed into the margins, enough that it doesn't affect peoples lives on a day to day, hyper oppresive fashion. It allows for a diversity of thought and ideas, while also protecting folks from oppression and cruelty.

Hatred isn't pushed into the margins of today's society. That's why black men are often being gunned down by police, the teen suicide rate for homosexuals is through the roof and women still make less on the dollar than men. We've still got a long way to go before we can say bigotry isn't affecting people's day to day lives. It definitely still is.

[SofaJockey]

Thanks for clarifying, Morte. I think the best option for me right now is to stay away from the cesspool that Tumblr's DA:I tag is becoming.

 

That's so true.

The BioWare Forum (strange as it may sound) is a delightful tea party compared to many of the vile threads elsewhere on the internet...

[Ynqve]

You're in luck, I cut some corners and found a ducklion.

 

Spoiler

 

someone else will have to raid an Alienage for an elf though.

 

Dafuq did I just see? xD The internet is amazing. It's dark and terrible but still amazing haha

[TheJediSaint]

That's so true.

The BioWare Forum (strange as it may sound) is a delightful tea party compared to many of the vile threads elsewhere on the internet...

Probably due to the fact that private forums are moderated.

[Tytelr]

I despise mustaches and I think he's gorgeous. 

Well, I like mustaches but his is doing that loopy, merchantesque thing. Not my cup of tea.

[Tytelr]

lol true. I call it the, "Tie a woman to the train tracks" mustache. 

Just so you know, I literally lol'd. Thanks for that.

[Cainhurst Crow]

Actually, I didn't like ANYTHING about Dorian at first, but since hearing little tidbits... Well, I've grown fond of him.

In meat space, I can find someone physically unappealing at first but then find them to be incredibly attractive if I enjoy the person's company a great deal.

I'm weird like that. It leaked over into gaming, and now I think Dorian is beautiful despite him being a far cry from my "type."

 

He has macklemore hair, and a 1900's style mustache and goatee. It makes me want to push him aside and go "No I don't want to listen to your stupid indie band."

[WildOrchid]

He has macklemore hair

 

Can't unsee.

Forever.