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[Illyria God King of the Primordium]

Ya I was supporting most of the stuff about the game before this so I am kind of worried now because this isn't just a small thing and they haven't explained everything clearly yet. All the gameplay videos I have seen looks pretty but now I realize why they have been using so few abilities, some mage fire attacks, a wall, earth shatter and that ability where they pull the enemy towards them. Its cause there are so few abilities and I feel like I got bored of looking at those few already.

 

I feel like I will get tired of seeing the same animations fairly quickly.

I've posted about this in the other thread (only eight abilities) so I'll direct you to my post there and add that this is a TINY thing.  

[Rawgrim]

Still better than Doug Cockle's laughable performance as Geralt and his vomit inducing forced tough guy voice

 

and the rest are just as bad

 

That would be a voice acting issue, not a dialogue issue.

[Stevensanr]

So, you acknowledge that the game has been building a positive rep despite past errors, but use this one issue as justification to scream 'The sky is falling'?

 

Again, I wish you well and have enjoyed your presence on the forums.

Okay i admit, my english is horrid, but i see, you really didn't understand a single thing at all.

 

Never mind, i think you are enjoying yourself with these non-topic posts on this forum. Keep on the BS. You are the man.

 

/facepalm

[CronoDragoon]

Long bossfights will be a complete bore with only 8 abilities.

 

They were a complete bore with all your abilities, too! Arishok anyone?

[Illyria God King of the Primordium]

Because you would handle most enemies the same way, you wouldn't have more options to do deal with the enemy, instead you choose the few best attacks and just spam them.

Only if you're dull.  Or completely focused on winning.  You'll have the same options you'd have if you had a ****-tonne of abilities, where again you'd just spam the best eight or so attacks.  This way at least there's a chance of you running into something you're not quite specced to face, and thus require actual SKILL to take it down.  

[Illyria God King of the Primordium]

Long bossfights will be a complete bore with only 8 abilities.

32.  Unless the rest of your party's down, everyone's got the same loadout, or you're only playing in lelaction mode.  

[CrybabyXD]

altho im getting dai on ps4. And played dao  and da2 on 360 and pc. That was one advantages of pc but think a little extreme to cancel bc of it. If u do not that interested in the game to begin with, perhaps u will be able to expand it.

[Rawgrim]

Geralt's hack and slashing is an rpg, but you having more character control, rping, and abilities isn't? 

 

The witcher is far from hack and slash. Enemies don't even respawn, and you have tons of non-combat abilities. Hack and slash games tend to have every skill tied to combat, and you get waves of enemies.

[Illyria God King of the Primordium]

That would be a voice acting issue, not a dialogue issue.

Voice acting is a part of dialogue, but fair point.  It's still horrifyingly bad.  

[Nohvarr]

You can tell a more concise narrative when your protagonist is clearly defined. Also, the character is gender locked, which is a good thing in my opinion.

Yes, because it serves the interest of your female customers to deny them an avatar in the game world. If they want to be a strong capable character in a fantasy world they must imagine themselves as  a man to do it.[/sarcasm]

 

 

Still better than Doug Cockle's laughable performance as Geralt and his vomit inducing forced tough guy voice

 

and the rest are just as bad

 

I'm trying not to hate on TW3....but his voice acting just isn't doing it for me. Honestly I've begun to think David Hayter would've been a better choice.

[Icefalcon]

I dont care how you want to play your game on your platform for your money. 

Spoken like a true Mass Effect 3 developer

[Rawgrim]

They were a complete bore with all your abilities, too! Arishok anyone?

 

True but that fight wasn't a bore because of the abilities. It was a bore because he had 3546456657687676876 hitpoints.

[Degenerate Rakia Time]

They were a complete bore with all your abilities, too! Arishok anyone?

Arishok fight strategy

 

engage for 5 seconds

drink health potion

engage for 5 seconds

run around in circle while the potion cooldown expires

drink potion

engage for 5 seconds

repeat the above 38 times

[CronoDragoon]

True but that fight wasn't a bore because of the abilities. It was a bore because he had 3546456657687676876 hitpoints.

 

Right but my point is, it's really spamming abilities over and over against an HP-inflated boss that produces boredom. 8 abilities across 4 characters (since I'll be commanding all of them in boss battles) is a pretty good sense of variety, I think.

[Illyria God King of the Primordium]

True but that fight wasn't a bore because of the abilities. It was a bore because he had 3546456657687676876 hitpoints.

It was a bore because he knocked you the **** over and drank lots of health potions and used lots of different abilities, in a way that sounds like a good boss on paper but turned into a clusterfuck when you just had yourself around.  

[rupok93]

Only if you're dull.  Or completely focused on winning.  You'll have the same options you'd have if you had a ****-tonne of abilities, where again you'd just spam the best eight or so attacks.  This way at least there's a chance of you running into something you're not quite specced to face, and thus require actual SKILL to take it down.  

 

So instead of making bosses actually difficult, its only difficult cause they put artificial limits on what abilities I could use? Gotcha. If you think thats good design idk what to tell you.

 

I am talking about fighting a boss and figuring out on the fly what tactics work on him instead of thinking "O crap i wish i could use that abilitiy but i can't cause i can only use 8" then have to reload the game again and fiddle around with your attacks. I find that kind of thing extremely tedious, maybe you find it fun idk.

 

Focusing on winning? No **** sherlock. Should I be focusing on losing the fight?

 

Also ppl comparing this to guild wars, guild wars has no pause of any kind and is more like a action rpg type mmo thats why it has to have quick access to attacks and have to map it to only a few keys.

[Br3admax]

The witcher is far from hack and slash. Enemies don't even respawn, and you have tons of non-combat abilities. Hack and slash games tend to have every skill tied to combat, and you get waves of enemies.

No, hack-and-slash refers to gameplay that deals more around action, specifically, hacking and, oddly enough, slashing. It has absolutely nothing to do with waves of enemies or if they respawn or not. 

[BroBear Berbil]

This is a design decision, not a "SHITTY CONSOLE PORT". It can still be considered a BAD decision however (though I am indifferent until I play with it), but it has nothing to do with consoles.

 

To be honest, as a PC gamer this is a design decision that I'm sick to death of, because I've seen plenty of it in MMOs. It's always praised for forcing you to "choose carefully" what you bring, but in my experience it just forces you to load up your bar with what's strongest or know the battle you're getting into ahead of time, so there's little room to learn and adapt on the fly.

[CronoDragoon]

I am talking about fighting a boss and figuring out on the fly what tactics work on him instead of thinking "O **** i wish i could use that abilitiy but i can't cause i can only use 8" then have to reload the game again and fiddle around with your attacks. I find that kind of thing extremely tedious, maybe you find it fun idk.

 

Or you just run 50 feet back since you can escape dragon battles, take 15 seconds to put in a few abilities and you're good. This isn't even taking into account any hypothetical game mechanics that will properly prepare you before you even encounter the dragon, such as scouting, war table research, etc.

[Rawgrim]

No, hack-and-slash refers to gameplay that deals more around action, specifically, hacking and, oddly enough, slashing. It has absolutely nothing to do with waves of enemies or if they respawn or not. 

 

The Witcher deals more around dialogue, than action, actually. What I consider to be hack and slash games are games like Diablo. Everything is designed around combat.

[Illyria God King of the Primordium]

Dude. I am female. And as a female I'm telling you I prefer playing male protagonists. Most writers aren't skilled enough to write female characters and they wind up like Hawke. Annoying, bitchy and generally a word I can't use on this site.

Yippy kay yay for you.  Most female gamers I know disagree.  No, wait, all of them do.  

 

Also, who are these 'most writers'?  Mary Kirby, Sheryl Chee - you know, the FEMALE Bioware writers who wrote a ****-tonne of the companions and quests?  

[CronoDragoon]

It's fair to say the Witcher's combat is action-oriented right? I think that's all that's being said and it's getting a little too non-Dragon Agey as a tangent.

[Nohvarr]

Dude. I am female. And as a female I'm telling you I prefer playing male protagonists. Most writers aren't skilled enough to write female characters and they wind up like Hawke. Annoying, bitchy and generally a word I can't use on this site.

That's fine that YOU prefer playing a male protagonist but not all of Bioware customer base feels the same way. A leisurely trek through the forums and that should become VERY clear.

[Degenerate Rakia Time]

Dude. I am female. And as a female I'm telling you I prefer playing male protagonists. Most writers aren't skilled enough to write female characters and they wind up like Hawke. Annoying, bitchy and generally a word I can't use on this site.

So Dragon Age's mostly female writing team cant write a female character?