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How come Skyrim had a marriage option but Dragon Age did not? (not counting origins)


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I just like to see that option, I know that there was a huge marriage thread that people were complaining about. But it just dosn't make any sense, because other games already did it before. 

 

for example Fable and Skyrim your characters can get married in both of these games Gay/Straight, so why should this be a big issue?



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The real question is: would it actually add something meaningful to the game? If yes, then perhaps.


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Yeah well to me it kinda adds an ending a sense of closure.



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The relationships in Skyrim are a joke, though. "Marriage" only means the NPC will be roaming your house and saying silly things.

 

Your chosen one roam your house in DA2 if you wanted.


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I can't find the exact quote but if I recall correctly it comes down to the fact that your potential LIs just have bigger things on their mind, like the end of the world and impending demonic invasion. Also, would it really add anything?

 

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The relationships in Skyrim are a joke, though. "Marriage" only means the NPC will be roaming your house and saying silly things.

 

Your chosen one roam your house in DA2 if you wanted.

True it is a joke lol, But what I'm trying to say is to is that I would like the option. And if an option like that happens I would prefer it to be one of the endings of the game. And if your gonna have multiple endings you might as well have any option.


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Didn't DA2 have Sebastian's chantry style marriage as well? ;)

 

Skyrim is just really different game than DA's and Skyrim's marriage and romance are thin as paper. It just don't have lot of content and story, it just has couple dialogue lines that change and then you have to headcanon your relationship. Also the situation is different in DA I believe when the game is more story-driven and less sandboxy. I think it's harder to pull of marriage for DA team cause it'd need to fit the story and characters better than in Skyrim where you can merry random beggar who you just met after giving him a coin and then wearing amulet on your neck.



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the Skyrim marriage was terrible. one of the most pathetic things ever. But I'm not against the idea of marriage per se. if well done and with some kind of sense, is a cute thing too.

 

Of course it should be a choice, not an obbligation, since many people start hyperventilating at the only mention of the subject >_>

"UuuRRgHhh...marriage! kids! UUhehhrgHh!!! Do not want!"

 

but the same people want very different choices and romance path...ok... :huh:


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I can't find the exact quote but if I recall correctly it comes down to the fact that your potential LIs just have bigger things on their mind, like the end of the world and impending demonic invasion. Also, would it really add anything?

 

-D-

Like I said a sense of closure, since these games have a "choose your own adventure" feel than would it be troubling to have an option. for example I want an ending were my character is a loner, that could happen but than I would want a playthrough with a character that is 180 degrees opposite from that.



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It just don't have lot of content and story, it just has couple dialogue lines that change and then you have to headcanon your relationship.

These things are better suited for fanfic anyway. As to the game, I'd imagine the end slides (with or without marriage) are just about the closure you are going to get.


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Like I said a sense of closure, since these games have a "choose your own adventure" feel than would it be troubling to have an option. for example I want an ending were my character is a loner, that could happen but than I would want a playthrough with a character that is 180 degrees opposite from that.

BioWare games aren't really about choosing your own adventure though. The developers allow you to make choices in the story the developers want to tell, instead of truly making your own story. Bethesda is more known for making your own adventures and the guided stories they have are rather light on story so marriage is just a continuation of making your own adventure in a simulation type of game.

 

I also believe that being in a relationship, period, is already the opposite to being a loner. You don't need to be married to have closure when you are already in a relationship.


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These things are better suited for fanfic anyway. As to the game, I'd imagine the end slides (with or without marriage) are just about the closure you are going to get.

That is exactly what I want sliders in the end of the game. 

 

 

BioWare games aren't really about choosing your own adventure though. The developers allow you to make choices in the story the developers want to tell, instead of truly making your own story. Bethesda is more known for making your own adventures and the guided stories they have are rather light on story so marriage is just a continuation of making your own adventure in a simulation type of game.

 

I also believe that being in a relationship, period, is already the opposite to being a loner. You don't need to be married to have closure when you are already in a relationship.

 

With respect, it kinda depends on the person. Like I would consider it a closure, since you tie the knot. but yeah I just want a slider at the end of the game nothing more nothing less Something like BG2. 



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Ummm, maybe because Skyrim isn't Dragon Age and isn't made by the same company? And the romances in Skyrim are pretty lacking compared to Bioware romances



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Ummm, maybe because Skyrim isn't Dragon Age and isn't made by the same company? And the romances in Skyrim are pretty lacking compared to Bioware romances

But used skyrim as an inspiration :P (for inquisition)



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I agree, marriage should be an option, unless it doesn't make sense for the character, or the story makes it a non-starter. The whole thing about having bigger things on their mind doesn't make any sense. How many soldiers get married before they head off to war? How many weddings in the theater of war? They put that chaplain to use. There are tons of potential stories there if they want to tell them, around the arrangement itself (political? required or voluntary? alliances? shotgun wedding? no time like the present and you might not make it home? just want a suitable mate to run your organization with?), to say nothing of the relationship reactivity and the way different characters would approach it. If it doesn't work in the active story, I agree it shoud be an option for the epilogue, as should offspring and family arrangements in general where applicable, which all makes for great story potential, either used in the active game or later on through npc reappearances and lineage. The timeframe here is very large, beyond individual characters' lifespans.

 

I also agree it brings some closure for the character (if used in the epilogue), absolutely. You know that your character has some commitment to the story you set for them. I don't see any good reason why not. We're never playing the character again, the love interest apparently isn't eligible to be an LI in future games. So it makes more sense longterm if it's an option.


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You don't even marry a character in Skyrim, you marry a template. The moment I married Muiri her character and backstory vanished and I was left with a default wife. The same goes for the Fable series. With the exception of Lady Grey you marry nobodies off the street who say the same things. These aren't even comparable to BioWare game.

 

Closure would be hard to get in DA since our characters inevitably go their separate ways and disappear because the series takes place in a specific timeframe. Fable and Elder Scrolls sequels are typically centuries apart. Fable 2 - Fable 3 is probably 50 years or so apart but they nullify whatever choices you made in Fable 2 at the start of Fable 3.

 

Don't get me wrong, I think it'd be nice to have more marriage in Dragon Age. I believe the nature of companions being what they are makes it kind of difficult but if my inquisitor could marry or romance a non-companion character I'd probably go for it.


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how come everyone forgets that Skyrim had same sex marriage?



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Marriage in Skyrim is a joke. It's a fetch quest, then it's a mind control quest, then whoever poor soul you manage to snag is promptly wiped of all personality, life and character, and brainwashed into a Yes Dear No Dear Stepford Wife for your convenience.

 

I'd rather DA not touch marriage at all than give us anything remotely like that travesty.


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Marriage in Skyrim is a joke. It's a fetch quest, then it's a mind control quest, then whoever poor soul you manage to snag is promptly wiped of all personality, life and character, and brainwashed into a Yes Dear No Dear Stepford Wife for your convenience.

 

I'd rather DA not touch marriage at all than give us anything remotely like that travesty.

you must play on console

 

anyways, my point is mostly towards people saying only BioWare has gay romances, they may have the best ones in mainstream games, but they don't have the only ones



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I'm not sure why we can exclude Origins but we're not including the previous 4(5?) TES games that didn't have marriage?

Yeah well to me it kinda adds an ending a sense of closure.


So does your LI dying tragically before you can put a ring on it. :P
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I'm not sure why we can exclude Origins but we're not including the previous 4(5?) TES games that didn't have marriage?


So does your LI dying tragically before you can put a ring on it. :P

because adding all the facts makes the arguement redundant of course



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I'd rather DA not touch marriage at all than give us anything remotely like that travesty.

Why would anybody think a marriage in DA would be anything like Skyrim's though? I will say this though. My Skyrim character married the werewolf Companion, and sure, their personality's thin, but no more than before the marriage. She's just harder to find because she spends so much time travelling... :P lol 

 

Honestly I'd expect something more along the lines of the Liara romance through the Mass Effect games, and that's by far the best BioWare's made.



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Other games doing something isn't a reason for this game to do it.



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I'm not sure why we can exclude Origins but we're not including the previous 4(5?) TES games that didn't have marriage?So does your LI dying tragically before you can put a ring on it. :P


That would be awesome and than my character would be like the punisher. XD

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I would actually like the option to marry the LI (only if it suits the character)

but if its done like Skyrim then I will pass those weren't really romances, more like a joke


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