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[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

Wait, I thought you could marry Serana. 

 

Well, you can try.

 

I almost thought Bethesda was taking a shot at a romance arc at first, because there's actually some fairly decent chemistry between the DB and Serana if you go through all of her dialogue a certain way. But it doesn't really build up to anything, and when you try the old fashioned Skyrim marriage system on her she literally just says something along the lines of "You're great and all, but that just isn't me."

 

And then the Dragonborn weeps internally. 

 

Still better than the actual marriages though.

[Puppy Love]

I'd be all for marriage being an option as something discussed in dialogue and completed post-game, off-camera in an ending slide.  As in, you can discuss it and decide whether or not to marry, but then resources are not sunk into having a wedding scene play out--particularly during the heat of the plot's actions.

Not that I'd be opposed to a wedding scene, or to a couple of characters acting as if married.  Actually I'd like that, but I'm not sure it could be justified to have those kinds of scenes in-game, when there are so many other areas that need the resources, animation, writing, etc. devoted to them.  Guess what I'm saying is if the rest of the plot, dialogue, etc. suffer, then it's a huge no from me--but otherwise, of course, I like the idea.

 

I dunno, the getting married just before heading into what feels like certain doom is a pretty common trope, and usually doesn't involve a grand wedding and no more resources than your party getting together and you and your loved one making vows and kissing, really not any more resources than any other scene.  Is far more common before the final epic battle than afterwards.

 

Is that, "I know we're likely to die tomorrow, but if we do I want you to know I am yours and you are mine, and whatever happens we are committed and bonded in our love for each other, and no matter what happens tomorrow that bond will not be broken.  I love you now and forever, whatever the future may bring."

 

Is not the same after the world has been put back together.

 

Yes these are highly romanticized marriages, and such marriages rarely survive long after everything settles, as feelings during war and peace time can be found to be very different.  But during that time, these feelings are a great and important motivator and source of morale for the two lovers feeling them.  At the time and place of these vows they are very real, strong and vital to the two involved.

 

Does not work after everything is done, and is less likely to occur as peace time brings out aspects of each other that might tarnish what you thought you had.  Such marriages work great as a before the final battle thing, afterwords is no good and completely loses a lot of the emotion and feeling involved.

[Steelcan]

 

Serana's friendzone no-mance was much better. :S

mods my good person, the Serana Marriage Mod, and Serana dialogue overhaul

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

mods my good person, the Serana Marriage Mod, and Serana dialogue overhaul

 

I actually installed that at one point, but it felt a little...artificial for her to suddenly become a cardboard cutout like all the others. :/

[Steelcan]

I actually installed that at one point, but it felt a little...artificial for her to suddenly become a cardboard cutout like all the others. :/

that's why you get the dialogue overhaul also

[Elton John]

LOL Skyrim is an open ended RPG while DA is not.

[Nefla]

the Skyrim marriage was terrible. one of the most pathetic things ever. But I'm not against the idea of marriage per se. if well done and with some kind of sense, is a cute thing too.

 

Of course it should be a choice, not an obbligation, since many people start hyperventilating at the only mention of the subject >_>

"UuuRRgHhh...marriage! kids! UUhehhrgHh!!! Do not want!"

 

but the same people want very different choices and romance path...ok...

But-but free food! Also hilariously unfitting and OOC "married" specific dialogue from characters like Farkas and Vilkas XD

[Felya87]

But-but free food! Also hilariously unfitting and OOC "married" specific dialogue from characters like Farkas and Vilkas XD

...I had forgotten. you are right. the cake make it all worth it. (and I find ilarious having an househusband)

 

CAKE!!!

[DaySeeker]

Skyrim takes place over a very different time frame than DA, also marriage does almost nothing to the game or story, you wear a necklace, you get a ring and a homecooked meal.  

 

I do think it would be cool to start a game married, and instead of a romance arc their could be a relationship one.

[Puppy Love]

I do think it would be cool to start a game married, and instead of a romance arc their could be a relationship one.

I started trying to make a game like that with an rpg maker but got frustrated with it's limitations.  Involved a husband and wife attempting to recover their lost child.  Had lots of twists and turns, and eventually a divided plot line ultimately coming back together with depending on choices made everything ending well to seriously messed up.  Only thing I had trouble with plot wise was figuring out how to handle having two characters that are controlled by the player in direct opposition of the other...  aka fighting oneself.

[Bayonet Hipshot]

I don't see the point of marriage in Dragon Age games, it is difficult to pull off.

 

First off you have different cultures which means different courtship and different marriage rituals. If the couple to be wedded is of different culture and race, that would open a whole new can of worms. 

 

Secondly, after the marriage. What then ? Kids ? Adoption ? House purchasing ? Daily nagging ?

 

What if one party wishes to annul the marriage ? What about the divorce ?

 

So nope, no marriage in DA. 

[Dean_the_Young]

True it is a joke lol, But what I'm trying to say is to is that I would like the option. And if an option like that happens I would prefer it to be one of the endings of the game.

You would like the option for a joke?
 

 

And if your gonna have multiple endings you might as well have any option.

 

Multiple =/= Many =/= All =/= Infinite.

[Elite Midget]

Well, I don't see how a relationship between a Human Inquisitor and Cassandra wouldn't ultimately lead to an Official Marriage after the game is over.

 

The way I see it is that Marriage isn't in the game but it could be teased that Marriage is in the future after all the stuff is said and over with.

[yk1468]

You would like the option for a joke?
 

Multiple =/= Many =/= All =/= Infinite.

Yes I would like an option for a joke, I want an option that makes me go hahaha for every 5 seconds.  Is that so bad?

 

But real talk why is this such a huge problem though?

[Savvie]

Marriage in Skyrim was pointless for the most part. I agree that it actually ruined some NPCs' personalities. My dragonborn married Vilkas and he went from this fierce fighter to a sappy softie. It was too much of an extreme in how the npc changed after marriage, I was really excited about the marriage in Skyrim when I first played it and was left very disappointed. The only thing I liked from the whole concept was being able to travel with your companion throughout Skyrim. Bethesda should have followed what the modders did in the "Interesting NPCs" mod, that one is fantastic. Hopefully, the next ES game may have something similar to that.

 

As for marriage in Dragon age, it would be nice to see it happen but I have a hard time believing it would be implemented well into the game. Bioware struggles at times just to do the whole romance concept well, trying to add marriage into that could make it much worse. Honestly with the whole obsession over romance that many bioware fans have bickered about with DA inquisition, I kind of think Bioware might start to get tired trying to put romance into their future games.

[Arkevilex]

Most meaningful marriages take time and for a marriage system to be implemented into DA where we have yet another new protagonist, it may do complete injustice to the characters. Marriage in this universe is something to be approached with caution as the world in in turmoil. If Bioware were to implement marriage, it would have been done in Mass Effect 3. 

Besides, this isn't the Sims or Skyrim. Relationships formed in Dragon Age are on a deeper and more complex level than what simple marriage by law can do justice by. And this connection isn't just between your inquisitor and their LI. It also includes you, the player. The feelings your inquisitor portrays to the targeted LI is somewhat saturated with your own feelings. These feels can't be summarized by marriage in my opinion. The relationships we form are grounded with a promise and loyalty. No paper or priest can tell you what you feel. 

Oh god I have no idea what I'm typing but it sounds romantic in my head. I am partially swooning at myself. 

[Dean_the_Young]

Yes I would like an option for a joke, I want an option that makes me go hahaha for every 5 seconds.  Is that so bad?

 

But real talk why is this such a huge problem though?

 

It's not a huge problem. In fact, it's a very, very small problem. Small problems can have disproportionately costly solutions, however, and the level of attention that would generally be considered 'appropriate' would be non-consequential. Considering how narrow-spectrum romance content is anyway, in the zero-sum game of limited developer races something else would likely need to be dropped in order for this to be put in.

 

It begs the question- since the most likely trade for romance content is other romance content, what would you be content to strip out from the romance in exchange for a marriage route?

[Elhanan]

Marriage as a romance option for DA: Yes; like what was done without romance in Skyrim: No. Prefer substance and quality.

[ManOfSteel]

Because Skyrim and Dragon Age are different games.

[yk1468]

It's not a huge problem. In fact, it's a very, very small problem. Small problems can have disproportionately costly solutions, however, and the level of attention that would generally be considered 'appropriate' would be non-consequential. Considering how narrow-spectrum romance content is anyway, in the zero-sum game of limited developer races something else would likely need to be dropped in order for this to be put in.

 

It begs the question- since the most likely trade for romance content is other romance content, what would you be content to strip out from the romance in exchange for a marriage route?

Well l would prefer for the characters to get married in the end, if it fits the character. Something like what BG2 did.

[yk1468]

Most meaningful marriages take time and for a marriage system to be implemented into DA where we have yet another new protagonist, it may do complete injustice to the characters. Marriage in this universe is something to be approached with caution as the world in in turmoil. If Bioware were to implement marriage, it would have been done in Mass Effect 3. 

Besides, this isn't the Sims or Skyrim. Relationships formed in Dragon Age are on a deeper and more complex level than what simple marriage by law can do justice by. And this connection isn't just between your inquisitor and their LI. It also includes you, the player. The feelings your inquisitor portrays to the targeted LI is somewhat saturated with your own feelings. These feels can't be summarized by marriage in my opinion. The relationships we form are grounded with a promise and loyalty. No paper or priest can tell you what you feel. 

Oh god I have no idea what I'm typing but it sounds romantic in my head. I am partially swooning at myself. 

 

Well I'm not talking about a marriage system, I'm just talking about an ending in text slide. for example "After x years x and x got married" something like that. I'm not necessarily talking about during the game but the ending.

 

I just mentioned skyrim is that its a game with good reviews. And it had marriage option, and there is no doubt that it sucked. But there wasn't anything controversial about it. I just wanted to mention that it happened in another game, so there wont be any conflict. And I would like to mention that in DA2 femHawke could get married to sebastion. What I want is not a game mechanic, but rather a text based ending. An implication that they got married. So that is exactly what I'm trying to propose.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Most meaningful marriages take time and for a marriage system to be implemented into DA where we have yet another new protagonist, it may do complete injustice to the characters. Marriage in this universe is something to be approached with caution as the world in in turmoil. If Bioware were to implement marriage, it would have been done in Mass Effect 3. 

Besides, this isn't the Sims or Skyrim. Relationships formed in Dragon Age are on a deeper and more complex level than what simple marriage by law can do justice by. And this connection isn't just between your inquisitor and their LI. It also includes you, the player. The feelings your inquisitor portrays to the targeted LI is somewhat saturated with your own feelings. These feels can't be summarized by marriage in my opinion. The relationships we form are grounded with a promise and loyalty. No paper or priest can tell you what you feel. 

Oh god I have no idea what I'm typing but it sounds romantic in my head. I am partially swooning at myself. 

I disagree. While people can form deep and complex relationships without getting married, your post seems to imply that marriage cheapens the relationship. Marriage can in fact make the relationship even more deep and complex.  

[dekarserverbot]

The relationships in Skyrim are a joke, though. "Marriage" only means the NPC will be roaming your house and saying silly things.

 

Your chosen one roam your house in DA2 if you wanted.

 

I had to agree with this, even harvest moon and fable wives had more dialogue than "Aqui estas cariño mio!"

[MissDragon]

Well in DA:O there wasn't even a royal wedding when Alistair married Anora. Not even celebrations.

[Fizzie Panda]

Eh, if Dragon Age romance was anything like Skyrim romance:

 

"wear this sex necklace after you find my sword and I'll devote the rest of my life to you"

 

then it just wouldn't be a Dragon Age romance.

 

Marriage is no biggie in this situation; you end up going with your LI anyway in previous games.