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[iPatrikolby]

With September 9 fast approaching and ME:Next seemingly year(s) away, will Destiny help fill the void, or worse, make the Mass Effect universe irrelevant when it finally arrives?

 

I've read some comparisons of Destiny to:

Mass Effect without the dialogue wheel (then its not ME)

Halo, meets Borderlands 2 with Mass Effect themes

 

What are your thoughts? Did you play the beta? Do you see any similarities in the campaign (narrative and lore) or the game play or the story line itself? Are there lessons to be learned from Destiny or is this an opportunity for Bioware to show Bungie how they do space?

[SNascimento]

It won't make Mass Effect irrelevant, just like it won't make Halo or Starcraft neither. I'm not following Destiny closely, but it seems to be like Borderlands. That is: co-op and looting are the main focus, while Mass Effect focus are characters and choices. Very different if you ask me.

Like you said, if it's a Mass Effect without the Dialogue Whell, then it's not Mass Effect. And not just because of the mechanic, but everything that stems from it. 

[CaIIisto]

Agree - played the beta, didn't seem anything like ME to me. 

[Mcfly616]

Destiny is nothing like Mass Effect. You could maybe say they share the sci fi genre.....but Destiny is much more fantastical. It's a space fantasy. As for gameplay, it's completely different.

 

 

 

 

I'm actually expecting Destiny's narrative to fail miserably. It seemed incredibly forced and over-dramatic in the beta (and I'm not even talking about Dinklage's voice acting). Good thing the story isn't why I'm buying it.

[Undead Han]

Totally different genres.

 

Asking whether Destiny will make Mass Effect: Next irrelevant is a bit like asking back in 2007 whether Halo makes Mass Effect irrelevant. Destiny is a multiplayer shooter and the next Mass Effect game will presumably be another singleplayer RPG/shooter hybrid with an optional multiplayer mode. While the next ME game will almost certainly have a multiplayer mode, it probably won't be the main focus of the game. 

[Drone223]

Nope.

 

Destiny has a heavy focus on MP and exploration and won't have SP but has story mission's which can be done on your own. While the next ME will be a more character driven game with SP serving as the main focus and MP being an extra feature. But I'm looking foward to playing Destiny as I was addicted to the beta and I'm very interested (not excited since we no little about it) in the next ME game.

[KaiserShep]

Destiny has a heavy focus on MP and exploration and won't have SP but has story mission's which can be done on your own.

 

From what I've read, this isn't entirely true. High level raids require other players in a team with you to complete.

 

Anyway, Destiny and Mass Effect are totally different animals. The next Mass Effect, like just about every other BioWare game that's come out over the years, will likely have a very sharp focus on its cast of characters, particularly companions, as well as its story. Destiny is more about the setting and the combat. The main conflict in Destiny will not be resolved for a long time.

[Pearl (rip bioware)]

No, the two are not really comparable. I guess it'll fill the void, though.

Although I will say that I was more impressed with the Destiny Beta than I was with both Memelands games put together.

[aTigerslunch]

Uhm, really.... wow.... ME Next is still in the works, not even close to being sent to shelves for another year at minimum......wow....*smh*   LOL!!  Destiny will still be played but has no effect for the next Mass Effect.

[ZipZap2000]

My personal impression is it's halo meets mass effect that shouldn't take much away from ME given it's strong points are the character development and relationships between the characters.

[KaiserShep]

I rather like the ME-like influence that I can see in Destiny, as one who would probably gobble up just about anything Mass Effect in future games.

[Farangbaa]

This is like asking if UFC makes boxing obsolete.

[iggy4566]

Destiny is fresh and feels like something with made with passion  something Mass effect hasn't seen since 2.

[Drone223]

Destiny is fresh and feels like something with made with passion  something Mass effect hasn't seen since 2.

I'm pretty sure there was a lot of effort and passion put into making ME3, the banter between NPC's on the Normandy, the citadel DLC, the genophage and rannoch arc's and references to past games e.g. Calibration jokes.

[Guanxii]

Played the 'Beta' and cancelled my pre-order after two days. I didn't have high expectations after following the previews and I still don't. It's just a collection of map-packs and multiplayer-modes strewn together. IGN 10/10.

 

The 'plot' is basically optional and consists of Peter Dinklage narrating sci-fi gibberish objectives at you in monotone while you shoot things in the face repeatedly for 12 hours. Riveting stuff. Sure it would be better with friends - but so are Cowadoody and Cancer Support groups. If I had to describe destiny in one word it would be 'safe'. I tried the raid, tried everything and thought it was decidedly average even for a multiplayer shooter.

 

The level design, slower paced run and gun-gameplay style, art direction, environment designs set to Marty O'Donnell's signature scores are all characteristically Bungie but we've seen all of this before and arguably better. Only being able to chat and do missions with party members makes it very antisocial from a lite-MMO perspective and the levelling/class system is so token it might as well not even be there (seemingly only effects grenade, jump animation and some passive stats in practice). The looting and crafting system is also very average by MMO standards. The enemies are in the borderlands style of wave after waves of faceless mooks with little combat differentiation and the entire project lacks any semblance of identity or innovation and looks decidedly 'last-gen' on ps4. It will have wings and garner a large multiplayer community no doubt and make Bobby Kotick very happy thanks to a marketing budget larger than the GDP of several developing African nations but I couldn't help but think anybody interested in the best 2-4 player co-op experience or Bungie's best work this holiday (multiplayer or story-wise) would have more fun with either the Halo collection or the Pre-sequel.

 

Anybody making comparisons between Mass Effect and Destiny is clearly not a fan of either because you can't even make a superficial visual comparison between the two properties... they have literally nothing in common beside a futuristic setting with aliens (and guns) in concept.

[Vortex13]

Destiny is nothing like Mass Effect. You could maybe say they share the sci fi genre.....but Destiny is much more fantastical. It's a space fantasy. As for gameplay, it's completely different.

 

 

I always likened Destiny to a high end version of Numenera personally. 

[Sanunes]

Destiny is fresh and feels like something with made with passion  something Mass effect hasn't seen since 2.

 

I am glad you feel that way so there is a market for the game, for I am not the target audience for it.

 

Now I was planning on buying a new console to play the game (hadn't decided which one) and future titles, but then I played the beta and scrapped those ideas for the game felt like a mashing of Titanfall (online only FPS) and Borderlands (loot focus), now it does have some interesting elements, but those elements aren't enough for me to drop $400 +taxes on a console.

 

Back to the OP, I don't see Destiny replacing Mass Effect because it would be like saying the next Call of Duty Modern Warfare will replace Mass Effect too.

[Mcfly616]

Felt like Halo with skill trees to me. For a company that didn't want to make Halo games anymore, they sure made their next game uncannily similar.

[JonathonPR]

Destiny looks interesting but unless it is on PC or a Nintendo console I am not that interested. Looks nice have not played it. I am fine with limited multiplayer with my friends on the same team but I prefer single player. It is a new IP. Mass Effect has great big caution signs around it since ME2 and 3.I like story and game mechanics that simulate universe lore. I will wait a few months after release and watch some YouTube to see if the story and game mechanics work together.

[Robtachi]

They are similar in that they are shooters, and there is mention of space.

[RainbowDazed]

I pre-ordered Destiny the day it was possible and upgraded to Ghost Edition the day it was possible. I'm really looking forward to this game and will be hitting it pretty hard. When I first saw Destiny I thought "wow, this is something I can sink my time into while waiting for Mass Effect to make a return." I seriously did. I love sci-fi games and I've been impressed with Bungies work in the past so I'm ready to give this game my best shot. Also I absolutely loved the co-op mp in Mass Effect and I'm hoping that Destiny will be an awesome mp-experience as well.

 

Story-wise there's no substitute for Mass Effect. In a weird way it helps that Destiny isn't even trying to be story-heavy (from what I've seen so far). And yet Bungie has excelled with their story-telling in the past, on a more subtle level. But, I'm getting into it mainly for the co-op fun and to have a cool and atmospheric sci-fi shooter in my life. 

[spinachdiaper]

Destiny is a SciFi FPS pretending to be a MMO while the Mass Effect series became a SciFi 3rd person cover shooter pretending to be a RPG. I say they are much closer than many here want to believe.

[Drone223]

Destiny is a SciFi FPS pretending to be a MMO while the Mass Effect series became a SciFi 3rd person cover shooter pretending to be a RPG. I say they are much closer than many here want to believe.

Mass Effect has always intended to be a 3rd person shooter/RPG hybrid, the dev's have stated this several times. Not to mention there is no dialogue selection etc. the two franchises have little in common.

[Darkstar Aurora]

Destiny is ultimately another Bungie shooter cosplaying as a fantasy roleplaying game.

There is enough of an outer shell of an RPG to make me capable of immersing myself in it, at least for a few months, but the depth and scope of the world seen in the Beta and previews seems rather shallow. The classes are ultimately still gun platforms with linear skill trees and only minor play-style variations. The world has gorgeous skyboxes to distract you from the repetitive palette of empty earthbound environments. The setting and lore is such pure fantasy that it makes you wonder with all this convoluted, unexplained space magic why we need to wear these ugly helmets at all.

I am still going to play it of course, and that Awoken Warlock I created in the Beta was visually and combatively similar enough to an Asari Adept to make me feel like it was a comparable experience to Mass Effect. However as soon as the clock strikes 12:01 A.M on 18 November 2014 of the Common Era it will be taking a major back seat in favor of Dragon Age: Inquisition.

[aTigerslunch]

Kinda makes me think Destiny is Destiny.  ME is ME....they both are spacey and shooters....so are many other spacey and shooters...could say Halo and ME is the same then 

 

I think and know they are their own games, they are not made to be a mirror or anything.  Some elements will make it appear that way but its not.  ME vs Star Wars or Star Trek, if want to talk spacey like and shooter as well.  Just saying.....   its the same thing with any genre, just cause it fits in that genre, yes it will have similarities but not made for purposes to oppose each other, but to entertain people. 

 

Its sole solution and purpose is to entertain.