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[Drone223]

Apples and oranges. Saying Destiny would make ME feel irrelevant is like saying a Sonic the Hedgehog game would make a Mario game feel irrelevant. Similar genre, completely different games. Destiny is at it's core still a FPS, with MMO elements to it. Mass Effect has always felt like an RPG with a third person shooter interface. Both have space magic to an extent, but the Mass Effect universe and lore is far more expansive than Destiny's. 

 

That being said, they're both excellent games. Destiny had a lot of high expectations, and while it falls short in a few of them, overall, it's an expansive world that's a ton of fun to play with friends. As much as I'm enjoying it, however, it's no Mass Effect, and no one should go in with those expectations. 

Pretty much this.

[iggy4566]

Its a lot more convenient if the lore is put into a in game codex not to mention ME3 has better story than Destiny because Bioware did put a effort into it.

ME3 good story yo dawg I herd you don't like being killed by Robots  so I made Robots to kill you so you don't make Robots to kill you that was some real effort there Bioware not saying Destiny's **** story was good but I'll give it that it that it didn't have the logic of a circle. 

 

Would it kill you to use some punctuation here and there?

 

This is awful to read.

Your welcome may it allow your eyes to rot from sheer awfulness JK aside yeah it was pretty bad  teaches me to type here when I'm sleepy.  

[Drone223]

ME3 good story yo dawg I herd you don't like being killed by Robots  so I made Robots to kill you so you don't make Robots to kill you that was some real effort there Bioware not saying Destiny's **** story was good but I'll give it that it that it didn't have the logic of circle.

In ME3 there was a lot of effort in the genophage and rannoch plot's which are considered the best moments in the entire trilogy, so I'd say Bioware at least try to put a lot of effort into their stories.

[iggy4566]

In ME3 there was a lot of effort in the genophage and rannoch plot's which are considered the best moments in the entire trilogy, so I'd say Bioware at least try to put a lot of effort into their stories.

those two very lovely moments aside Bioware didn't really pull through with the story in the final missions  and Drone I actually have respect for you  even thought I don't agree with you  your a decent fellow. 

[Drone223]

those two very lovely moments aside Bioware didn't really pull through with the story in the final missions and Drone I actually have respect for you even thought I don't agree with you your a decent fellow.

Good to hear.

Well the genophage and rannoch's arc's are the best parts since the main story for the whole trilogy was never planned out (and was derailed in ME2 but is still a good game), but that's another discussion.

[ZipZap2000]

ME story is better because it exists. There are fifty different versions of what destiny's story is floating around right now because nobody knows what it is. Bungie fans are putting IT to shame atm.

[ImaginaryMatter]

ME story is better because it exists. There are fifty different versions of what destiny's story is floating around right now because nobody knows what it is. Bungie fans are putting IT to shame atm.

 

I thought the story was about Peter Dinklage going to the moon?

[Farangbaa]

ME3 good story yo dawg I herd you don't like being killed by Robots  so I made Robots to kill you so you don't make Robots to kill you that was some real effort there Bioware not saying Destiny's **** story was good but I'll give it that it that it didn't have the logic of a circle. 

 

The Catalyst doesn't think it's killing anyone. That might be an awfully wrong perspective from an organic point of view, but from that perspective it's not making robots to stop you from being killed by robots. That, and the Reapers aren't true robots, but hybrids. And in that hybridity lies the reason why the Catalyst does not think it's killing anyone.

 

Your welcome may it allow your eyes to rot from sheer awfulness JK aside yeah it was pretty bad  teaches me to type here when I'm sleepy.  

 

The first part of your post I quoted is still godawful

[NM_Che56]

I'm watching a playthrough on YouTube and it's fun to watch. But even YouTube videos show how shallow is the world. There is almost nothing in it, only enemies to kill (respawning after some time) and some resources here and there (which you can't even use, only sell, unless I got it wrong). The game has a potential, a lot of it, but it falls short on everything except pretty environments IMO.

I mentioned the ship, because it would've been great if ME:Next allowed us to customize ships and see them like in Destiny, orbiting uncharted planets, landing etc. 

 

Yeah.  The shooting and combat are fun!  But yeah, it's empty.

[Massa FX]

I watched enough high profile youtube reviews of Destiny. I will not play. I will not waste my time. I do not want all that drama of frustrated gaming in my life right now. 

[RoboticWater]

The one cool thing about all of this is that so many people agree on the lack and/or bad quality of story. Even those who otherwise like the game agree on this.

 

In Beta, I immediately noticed it, and was worried that I was alone.. that somehow there was a strong trend in gaming that leaned towards stripped down or exclusively multiplayer titles like this. Same goes for Titanfall. 

 

What I'm seeing now is pushback from fans and reviewers. Many people don't want games to move in this direction. Story is where it's all at. And the sooner developers realize it, the less they'll try to get away with something like this again.

 

I don't think people necessarily want more story out of their games, but that they want what they're promised. Nearly every trailer for Destiny implied that there would be some grand story that would blow you away, so when that didn't happen people got rightfully irate. But you also have to realize that Destiny is a commercial success, it made its money and it still has a large user base. Sure, fans and reviewers are annoyed but that's because we were expecting something different, something more on par with the Halo series (at least in the story department).

 

Games don't need to tell stories, they just need to be games. Yes, story is nice (and often awe inspiring), but the narrative should only exist to enhance the gameplay. Look and DoTA and League, they don't need good stories to be massively popular, they're just well made. The same could be said about Skyrim and Borderlands; they don't have the best stories, but they don't shove the plot down your throat so they end up being good fun. As for Titanfall, I don't know why it lost its popularity almost immediately, but I don't really think a campaign would've helped. Campaign certainly isn't the thing selling CoD.

 

Of course, I'm on the Mass Effect forums for a reason: I love my single player games (and I have no social life), but mostly the single player thing. I love a good story and I love good stories in good games, but I don't need it all the time. Games are art and if all developers want to say is "Woo, 'spolsions!" all power to them.

 

All that I think Bungie got away with is selling hype (and kinda lying about the story). Games can be as multiplayer and have as little narrative as they want, they just shouldn't pretend to be anything more that that.

[Pearl (rip bioware)]

Apparently Destiny went through development hell, with the story being rewritten at some point early last year due to the departure of a few key people. And I suspect that Activision came in after they were done and told them to chop up a decent amount of the game in to different DLCs, which is supported by having Grimoire entries for three additional locations (and a Crucible map on Mercury).

[ZipZap2000]

They'll need to keep people interested to sell it, they will sell a lot of it but i will be wondering how many DLC sales they missed out on by rubbing people the wrong way and removing too much content. Seems a lot of people who started playing it wont still be playing it by the time it releases.

[CroGamer002]

After watching some reviews, I can safely say not Mass Effect and Destiny can not be compared.

 

At all!

 

They're nothing alike. One is a story driven singleplayer focused action-RPG series, the other is a pseudo-MMO grindfest shooter.

[TruthSerum]

I bought my Xbox One to play Destiny but every time I think about getting back into it all feels so pointless. I mean the feeling of emptiness is palpable to the point that I get this sinking feeling in my stomach every time I think about playing it.

I think it all stems from the fact that the game world is so well made that my brain has a hard time processing the fact that it's all for no reason.

It all just seems such a massive waste to the point that its frustrating.

[NM_Che56]

$40 guaranteed trade in for PS4/Xbox One copies of Destiny at Gamestop...just sayin'...

[NM_Che56]

Remember how people got their collective panties in a bunch about From Ashes? How it felt like it was pulled out of the game only to be sold later as DLC? Well Destiny feels like that all over the place!  There is a palpable feeling that things were deliberately withheld from the game only to be sold as DLC.  Not just minor little side quests but big chunks of narrative. There are some great Forbes and Gamespot articles on this that are worthy of a read. 

[Robtachi]

Comparing Mass Effect to Destiny makes about as much sense as comparing Dragon Age to The Witcher. They're very different, and you're just wasting your time.

[Obadiah]

You can compare them, but for what I prefer in a game, Mass Effect wins.

One thing I think Mass Effect could do, and take a page from Destiny from, is to make certain missions replayable, on higher and higher difficult settings with some random loot thrown in - perhaps not equipment, but skins for armor or something.

[q5tyhj]

ME3 good story yo dawg I herd you don't like being killed by Robots  so I made Robots to kill you so you don't make Robots to kill you that was some real effort there Bioware not saying Destiny's **** story was good but I'll give it that it that it didn't have the logic of a circle. 

A. That's the ending, which is only part of the story. A good story can have a crappy ending.

B. That's not really the ending anyways.

C. EA made Bioware scrap the real ending because it got leaked, the ending we got was a hasty, late, ad hoc addition.

D. The rest of the trilogy kicked ass, so get over it

 

lolDestiny- another dime/dozen disposable FPS by the looks of it. Mass Effect vs. Destiny is like the Beatles vs Justin Bieber- a classic vs. a fad, in other words.

[Drone223]

 

lolDestiny- another dime/dozen disposable FPS by the looks of it. Mass Effect vs. Destiny is like the Beatles vs Justin Bieber- a classic vs. a fad, in other words.

Destiny is actually a very fun game........its just that the story left a lot to be desired considering that Bungie has shown that they can write great stories.

[CroGamer002]

C. EA made Bioware scrap the real ending because it got leaked, the ending we got was a hasty, late, ad hoc addition.

 

There's absolutely no evidence of this claim.

 

And leaked ending is barely different from what we got.

[SolNebula]

Destiny was the first PS4 game I  bought mainly for the white PS4 deal.....boy..this game is hell boring...finished the main storyline plus strike missions...I don't feel like playing at all....ME and Destiny have nothing in common...just please BW ignore that game and keep going with what you know best...great story and characters.

 

I agree with those saying that playing Destiny made me appreciate ME3 A LOT!. Still disliking the endings but the rest is a great game when compared to Destiny.

 

Looking forward for the next ME on PS4.

 

The tragic thing is that I need another game to play with my new PS4.....and DA:I is too far away....