I wonder if she and Nines have something going?
Doubt it. It is hinted several times vampires can no longer have/enjoy sex. I suspect they also can't fall in love anymore. They're clinically dead and their body won't produce the necessary hormones. Jeanette appears to be a rather extreme exception.
Doubt it. It is hinted several times vampires can no longer have/enjoy sex. I suspect they also can't fall in love anymore. They're clinically dead and their body won't produce the necessary hormones. Jeanette appears to be a rather extreme exception.
Well, it still shows that they can feel something for each other and stuff you know. Even if it is an exception like jeanette who brings that up. like a vampire would not sire/embrace someone unless they like them or they are of use to them.
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Well, it still shows that they can feel something for each other and stuff you know. Even if it is an exception like jeanette who brings that up. like a vampire would not sire/embrace someone unless they like them or they are of use to them.
It seems the latter is most often the case. It's true they do still can have feelings, but it appears that true romantic relationships are not really possible. Ash (guy in the Asp Hole Hollywood club) used to be a womanizer in life but as a vampire he lost that. Drinking blood from them is the only pleasure a vampire can still feel/care about. Jeanette's "fornication", as her sister put it, probably stems more from the wish to be rebellious and to get attention than a real need for intimacy.
I think the vampires can fall in love. One of the weakness of the toredors is that they tend to fall in love with mortals and other vampires frequently.
A vampire's emotional capacity is influenced by the humanity. I mean someone like push a that let the beast take over would probably have no empathy.
Toreadors are unique in that, though I think they don't fall in love with humans that often, or at least I haven't found references in the game for that. Only the Hollywood baron (forgot his name at the moment) has a story that has him loving (whether romantically or more as a father figure) a human and not being able to bear losing him. Toreadors enjoy manipulating humans more than the humans themselves, I feel, probably because it makes them feel more human in return.
Most vampires see humans as cattle. Jack compares them to cows, and Jack is not low on humanity as far as I know.
It seems the latter is most often the case. It's true they do still can have feelings, but it appears that true romantic relationships are not really possible. Ash (guy in the Asp Hole Hollywood club) used to be a womanizer in life but as a vampire he lost that. Drinking blood from them is the only pleasure a vampire can still feel/care about. Jeanette's "fornication", as her sister put it, probably stems more from the wish to be rebellious and to get attention than a real need for intimacy.
Toreadors are unique in that, though I think they don't fall in love with humans that often, or at least I haven't found references in the game for that. Only the Hollywood baron (forgot his name at the moment) has a story that has him loving (whether romantically or more as a father figure) a human and not being able to bear losing him. Toreadors enjoy manipulating humans more than the humans themselves, I feel, probably because it makes them feel more human in return.
Most vampires see humans as cattle. Jack compares them to cows, and Jack is not low on humanity as far as I know.
You both are right. So I guess that makes me right, right? lol
This Nosferatu warren quest thing was so so hard. If I did not have that revolver and shutgun and sowrd and loads of ammo, I would not sruvive. Man the fourth floor was SICK as hell.
Well as the game was based on the world of darkness pin and paper role playing game I would say LLCOOLBAE is correct. A vampires ties to their human feelings and thoughts are measured by their humanity. A vampire with a humanity of seven is pretty much fully attached to their old human values and emotions. They feel guilt if they cause needless harm and in general view theft as a bad thing. They can value someone's live above their own or even fight for a cause. Given how Ninez sees other vampires and continues to put himself in harms way I'm fairly certain he has maintained a high humanity which is something else considering how old he is.
Those vampires with a humanity of 8-10 not only maintain the link to their humanity but they're actively resisting the influence of the beast. It's very hard to make a vampire with this high of a humanity go into frenzy. In the game it's not that hard to maintain but when it comes to the actual pin and paper game the GM is encouraged to actively punish you if you have such a high humanity to see if they can cause it to degrade. It is the world of darkness after all and a vampire is a monster.
When humanity falls to 5 and lower the vampire begins to really lose touch with their human values and emotions. Violence and murder no longer trouble them but become a simple tool to achieve their goal. Now this is another area the computer game and the pin and paper game differ. It's actually rather hard to get your humanity below 3 as you have to do some really terrible things to do that. We're talking combined mass murder, rape and torture. At level five and lower the vampire also forgets certain things. For example. A vampire with this low of humanity will forget to breath, blink or change the foot they're standing on from time to time. They stop doing the little things that make them seem human. It becomes really hard to socialize with humans as well due to the loss of this body language.
This poses other problems as well. A vampire that's actively breathing may notice it smells like gas in a certain room. A vampire with a low humanity who isn't breathing has no chance of noticing this.
Well as the game was based on the world of darkness pin and paper role playing game I would say LLCOOLBAE is correct. A vampires ties to their human feelings and thoughts are measured by their humanity. A vampire with a humanity of seven is pretty much fully attached to their old human values and emotions. They feel guilt if they cause needless harm and in general view theft as a bad thing. They can value someone's live above their own or even fight for a cause. Given how Ninez sees other vampires and continues to put himself in harms way I'm fairly certain he has maintained a high humanity which is something else considering how old he is.
Those vampires with a humanity of 8-10 not only maintain the link to their humanity but they're actively resisting the influence of the beast. It's very hard to make a vampire with this high of a humanity go into frenzy. In the game it's not that hard to maintain but when it comes to the actual pin and paper game the GM is encouraged to actively punish you if you have such a high humanity to see if they can cause it to degrade. It is the world of darkness after all and a vampire is a monster.
When humanity falls to 5 and lower the vampire begins to really lose touch with their human values and emotions. Violence and murder no longer trouble them but become a simple tool to achieve their goal. Now this is another area the computer game and the pin and paper game differ. It's actually rather hard to get your humanity below 3 as you have to do some really terrible things to do that. We're talking combined mass murder, rape and torture. At level five and lower the vampire also forgets certain things. For example. A vampire with this low of humanity will forget to breath, blink or change the foot they're standing on from time to time. They stop doing the little things that make them seem human. It becomes really hard to socialize with humans as well due to the loss of this body language.
This poses other problems as well. A vampire that's actively breathing may notice it smells like gas in a certain room. A vampire with a low humanity who isn't breathing has no chance of noticing this.
now....how can I see how high my humanity is? in the game I mean.
now....how can I see how high my humanity is? in the game I mean.
As I recall it's on your character screen. See at the top of the page humanity and in this case the vampire has a humanity of six. Pretty good..
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Toreadors are unique in that, though I think they don't fall in love with humans that often, or at least I haven't found references in the game for that. Only the Hollywood baron (forgot his name at the moment) has a story that has him loving (whether romantically or more as a father figure) a human and not being able to bear losing him. Toreadors enjoy manipulating humans more than the humans themselves, I feel, probably because it makes them feel more human in return.
Most vampires see humans as cattle. Jack compares them to cows, and Jack is not low on humanity as far as I know.
With humans it is a rare case that is the truth. They can fall in love more often with other vampires like Mikali(toreador).
Also referencing lore there is also,
-You have at least heard, in passing, of Legendary Toreador, such as: Rafael de Corazon, one of the Founders of the Camarilla and the "spiritual father" of the Masquerade; and Tannit, the supposed lover of the Brujah Troile who followed him to Carthage.
-You have heard the story of how Arikel supposedly loved Absimilliard (the Nosferatu Antediluvian), and have heard the story that it was the scar on his face that drove him mad with vanity and led him to disfigure himself.
-You have heard of "The Lovers", two Cainites of the Second Generation, who committed suicide upon realizing that they could no longer consummate their love. It is said that Caine forswore ever embracing childer on this event, and that the rest of his lineage is cursed because he broke his oath. You have also heard that it was Caine who disfigured the Nosferatu for mentioning "The Lovers" to him, stirring up painful memories (Although this contradicts the story that he disfigured himself out of vanity).'
They are more examples of lore down the line.
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This is my character 
How can I rise it even more though? 
I believe you can spend experience points to raise your humanity higher. They're also certain story choices that will raise it. Like when you choose to save Heather your humanity goes up. If you choose to save her.
So....what happens if I rise it to....like ten? ...any gameplay change or something?
oh and recently after finding grouts dead body and taking something on his bed, I now have the option to enthrall certain people. ( and I DID take advantage of that. lol. Jeannete and Threse, Velvet and whole bunch of people from bars from different districts). What does that do other than providing food? lol
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I believe you can spend experience points to raise your humanity higher. They're also certain story choices that will raise it. Like when you choose to save Heather your humanity goes up. If you choose to save her.
Even giving Mercurio money would replenish your humanity.
You can also dance in the club for 5 minutes, adds some humanity
You can also dance in the club for 5 minutes, adds some humanity
Cool.
btw, on the net I read something about clan quest mod. I thought it helps you build or start building ca clan. When I read more into it, I saw it was not what I thought.
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Cool.
btw, on the net I read something about clan quest mod. I thought it helps you build or start building ca clan. When I read more into it, I saw it was not what I thought.
The clan quest mod just adds more missions for the clans. It is done pretty well! I would recommend it
The clan quest mod just adds more missions for the clans. It is done pretty well! I would recommend it
will do, once I find a...cracked one.....
Even giving Mercurio money would replenish your humanity.
You can also dance in the club for 5 minutes, adds some humanity
I didn't not know that second one.
So....what happens if I rise it to....like ten? ...any gameplay change or something?
oh and recently after finding grouts dead body and taking something on his bed, I now have the option to enthrall certain people. ( and I DID take advantage of that. lol. Jeannete and Threse, Velvet and whole bunch of people from bars from different districts). What does that do other than providing food? lol
A humanity of ten makes you less likely to go into frenzy and makes it less likely you'll lose control while feeding. I remember once my Vintrue was absolutely starving. So I have her head into a bar and have her start feeding. Well I clicked stop feeding early and she ignored me. She ignored me several more times and by the time she let go of the victim the poor girl was down to I'd say 1 health point. If her humanity had been any lower she wouldn't have stopped feeding in time to avoid killing her most likely.
Now normally the power boost a frenzy gives you is a good thing however during certain boss fights it can be a very bad thing. A frenzied vampire doesn't dodge for example even when they really need to. Like oh say because there is a massive werewolf chasing you trying to rip you a new one.
I don't recall such an item so not sure there.
I don't believe it's a good idea to spend points on raising your humanity though. You should get plenty of chances to boost it through regular game play and story choices.
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I didn't not know that second one.
Yeah it's weird how much stuff is in this game. I only found pisha on my 6th playthrough.
Obligatory picture.
Damn i miss troika
I didn't not know that second one.
A humanity of ten makes you less likely to go into frenzy and makes it less likely you'll lose control while feeding. I remember once my Vintrue was absolutely starving. So I have her head into a bar and have her start feeding. Well I clicked stop feeding early and she ignored me. She ignored me several more times and by the time she let go of the victim the poor girl was down to I'd say 1 health point. If her humanity had been any lower she wouldn't have stopped feeding in time to avoid killing her most likely.
Now normally the power boost a frenzy gives you is a good thing however during certain boss fights it can be a very bad thing. A frenzied vampire doesn't dodge for example even when they really need to. Like oh say because there is a massive werewolf chasing you trying to rip you a new one.
I don't recall such an item so not sure there.
I see. The red bar on the right and how much it is feeled it the hunger meeter or something else?
Yeah it's weird how much stuff is in this game. I only found pisha on my 6th playthrough.
Obligatory picture.
Damn i miss troika
if it was not for giving that reported to Pisha, I`ve had 9 humanity points right. 
I see. The red bar on the right and how much it is feeled it the hunger meeter or something else?
That's your blood meter. You use that stuff to power disciplines and use blood buff. It also reflects hunger. Jack actually does a pretty good job of explaining it to you at the beginning of the game.
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if it was not for giving that reported to Pisha, I`ve had 9 humanity points right.
hahah she is a different one isn't she?
I love how conversation with a malkav
That's your blood meter. You use that stuff to power disciplines and use blood buff. It also reflects hunger. Jack actually does a pretty good job of explaining it to you at the beginning of the game.
I see. I never let that bar go empty. Thats why I have several thralls at my haven. LOL
hahah she is a different one isn't she?
I love how conversation with a malkav
Yeah. she is crazy and reasonable. lol and her hair...just my thing.
I can only ever take the stake that killed him from his bed, but I never received any special powers from it. Are you sure it's not some sort of ability you have? Or are you playing with some sort of mod? I use the unofficial patch.
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