The rest of the game better hold up, otherwise they might get another ME3 on their hands.
They might add an extended backstory. That would probably work for me. And they'd need to work really hard to even get near ME3's level of "WTF?" I think we're safe in that regard. After all, the Archdemon wasn't an interesting main antagonist and things worked rather well, because in the end it's not that important.
I really hope he isn't. It wouldn't ruin the game for me, but I prefer the EO to be a new guy or Dumat.
Sadly it seems like he really might be the EO, i was hoping for something new like Fen'Harel.
They might add an extended backstory. That would probably work for me.
You know, there is a reason why I have put my stuff into spoiler tags...
You know, there is a reason why I have put my stuff into spoiler tags...
Oops didn't even notice.
I'm looking at multiple people unable or unwilling to believe Corypheus is the big bad boss of DAI, despite many indications to show that that is the case. Such bias. Sometimes the most obvious and straightforward answer, is the answer.
think its the regulars. We spent months theorizing(some pretty damn good imo) and to have a villian like cory even with rewrites seems like a cop out rivaling the ME3 debacle. So it understandable to have a "bias"I'm looking at multiple people unable or unwilling to believe Corypheus is the big bad boss of DAI, despite many indications to show that that is the case. Such bias. Sometimes the most obvious and straightforward answer, is the answer.
Its just bodes ill for the series if old villians have a direct relevance
considering the ME3 debacle we sjould prep for the worse.I agree and it would show a complete lack of creativity.
I agree and it would show a complete lack of creativity.
Not always. Recurring antagonists can be done really well, take The Turks from FF7 as an example. Or Murdoc from Macgyver. Also Cory in D2 was more like a fantastically done introduction to the character.
ill give you FF7 bit not mcguyver(just didnt like the series)Not always. Recurring antagonists can be done really well, take The Turks from FF7 as an example. Or Murdoc from Macgyver. Also Cory in D2 was more like a fantastically done introduction to the character.
You're overreacting:
Not that I'm not hoping for something different, but it could work.
Things would certainly need to be a great deal different to make me think of ME3. A medium-level disappointment is one thing, an emotional blow like nothing else I ever experienced in a game quite another.
Not always. Recurring antagonists can be done really well, take The Turks from FF7 as an example. Or Murdoc from Macgyver. Also Cory in D2 was more like a fantastically done introduction to the character.
You are kidding about his introduction right? He was completely poorly introduced and that is why most of us are disappointed because he is a poor character, maybe if that whole seen was more dramatic, actually exciting, made his entrance actually unnerving and not a comedic swirl that he did, then maybe i would be excited to see an ancient magister.
But since he was a poor character to start with, all i have is bias because i've met a badly written, badly presented, and weak 10 minute boss fight of a EO in my head as first impression. So that's why you hear most of all of the regulars on this thread saying "I am Disappointed that bioware would choose him but Hopefully they will revamp his character or have something pulling his strings." Its not that we don't think he can be a good villain, its that we don't think DA2 version can make a good villain.
And i do love it when things in past games come into play future games, but there are a lot more things in this series which i would much rather addressed than more taint/Black City stuff.
And i do love it when things in past games come into play future games, but there are a lot more things in this series which i would much rather addressed than more taint/Black City stuff.
Given that the mystery of the Black City and the magisters has not been solved, I'd rather have that addressed. It's what we hear about in the first sentence of DAO and it's been dangling since then. Also, tbh I find the primeval demons utterly boring.
Given that the mystery of the Black City and the magisters has not been solved, I'd rather have that addressed. It's what we hear about in the first sentence of DAO and it's been dangling since then. Also, tbh I find the primeval demons utterly boring.
We have seen Darkspawn, we have seen talking Darkspawn. i doubt we are going to find out the truth of the Black city/Golden City/Eternal City. since that might Confirm or deny the existent of the Maker which Gaider said he wouldn't do, so what does that leave us with? another story about a Darkspawn and the taint. Woo?
Like i don't know what revelations they can tell us that would have to do about the Black City.
Bioware- It was always Black!
Inq- we already heard that.
Bioware- The Golden City and The Eternal City are the same!
Inq- Well that was a given.
Bioware- The Old Gods are the Forgotten Ones!
Inq- Nice to finally have that confirmed.
I doubt this will really have much to do about the city, but more the lack of gods and the gods we put faith in. so pretty much we are going to be fighting another crazy mage who is also a Darkspawn. because that makes it original.
Given that the mystery of the Black City and the magisters has not been solved, I'd rather have that addressed. It's what we hear about in the first sentence of DAO and it's been dangling since then.
The Chantry teaches us that it is the hubris of men which brought the darkspawn into our world.
Hubris = Pride
What would threaten the entire world if it set foot outside of the veil? A Greater Pride Demon
Strongest of all demons are those of pride. These are the most feared creatures to loose upon the world: Masters of magic and in possession of vast intellect, they are the true schemers. It is they who seek most strongly to possess mages, and will bring other demons across the Veil in numbers to achieve their own ends—although what that might be has never been discovered. A greater pride demon, brought across the veil, would threaten the entire world.
I'm really thinking that the Elder One is a Greater Pride Demon.
That's kinda retconned since they're introducing more demons.
The Chantry teaches us that it is the hubris of men which brought the darkspawn into our world.
Hubris = Pride
What would threaten the entire world if it set foot outside of the veil? A Greater Pride Demon
Strongest of all demons are those of pride. These are the most feared creatures to loose upon the world: Masters of magic and in possession of vast intellect, they are the true schemers. It is they who seek most strongly to possess mages, and will bring other demons across the Veil in numbers to achieve their own ends—although what that might be has never been discovered. A greater pride demon, brought across the veil, would threaten the entire world.
I'm really thinking that the Elder One is a Greater Pride Demon.
No, it's not going to be just a demon. That would be a debacle, far too generic.
As for Cory, I do think we're underestimating his potential as a villain.
It is bias because there's no strong indication whatsoever that someone else could be the big bad, and there are good reasons to believe he is, but many will conjure up unsubstantiated reasons to believe that Cory is not the big bad, ignoring, coming up weak counter reasons or simply straight up refusing to see what's in front of their noses, simply because they hope it's not true. Bias is like blind spots, you won't recognize that it's bias.
Cory is the big bad of DAI, the DA team planned this all along, likely since the very early stage of DA franchise. I find it difficult to believe they will change the big boss of DAI in the middle of its development, because DA is a franchise with a overarching story spanning multiple games, where certain things must happen - i.e. Corypheus bringing chaos to Thedas, get killed, but set in motion the next chain of events for their next games.
Aside from the moment where it was revealed Revan was indeed the main character in KOTOR, Bioware was never known to have very strong plot twist/revelation in their stories. They are relatively weak in this aspect, really - which is not as bad as it sounds because their story are usually good enough and delivered fairly well. Of course I fully expect one or two very strong plot twist/revelation throughout the DA franchise, but in general, they'll be few and far between.
The Cory situation is not handled well, from a 'surprise' or 'mystery' factor point of view. If they'd not shown that Corypheus had body hopped to Larius or Janeka at the end of DA:Legacy, making the player believe that Corypheus is truly dead, then reveal in DAI (when Cory is revealed to be the big bad) with a flashback that Corypheus actually body hopped before dying, maybe many would not be disappointed. At least that's my idea.
Some fans' theories like Dumat being the big bad and Cory working for him sounded better than Cory being the big bad. However, Bioware never truly excelled at such storytelling with multiple layers and depth. Dumat we know is dead, if he somehow turns out to be the big bad, it'll take a hell of a lot to explain how he isn't so. That will probably work for the regulars of DA, but not for new players to the franchise.
It comes down to how well Bioware deliver Cory as the villain in DAI. I personally think Cory can be a great villain.
BTW. The Mass Effect team is not the DA team, so whatever bad that happened in ME3 has not bearing on DAI.
you never know if they will mess up just saying. Plus if we go by that logic it implies that da2 fans are more important that the other fansIt is bias because there's no strong indication whatsoever that someone else could be the big bad, and there are good reasons to believe he is, but many will conjure up unsubstantiated reasons to believe that Cory is not the big bad, ignoring, coming up weak counter reasons or simply straight up refusing to see what's in front of their noses, simply because they hope it's not true. Bias is like blind spots, you won't recognize that it's bias.
Cory is the big bad of DAI, the DA team planned this all along, likely since the very early stage of DA franchise. I find it difficult to believe they will change the big boss of DAI in the middle of its development, because DA is a franchise with a overarching story spanning multiple games, where certain things must happen - i.e. Corypheus bringing chaos to Thedas, get killed, but set in motion the next chain of events for their next games.
Aside from the moment where it was revealed Revan was indeed the main character in KOTOR, Bioware was never known to have very strong plot twist/revelation in their stories. They are relatively weak in this aspect, really - which is not as bad as it sounds because their story are usually good enough and delivered fairly well. Of course I fully expect one or two very strong plot twist/revelation throughout the DA franchise, but in general, they'll be few and far between.
The Cory situation is not handled well, from a 'surprise' or 'mystery' factor point of view. If they'd not shown that Corypheus had body hopped to Larius or Janeka at the end of DA:Legacy, making the player believe that Corypheus is truly dead, then reveal in DAI (when Cory is revealed to be the big bad) with a flashback that Corypheus actually body hopped before dying, maybe many would not be disappointed. At least that's my idea.
Some fans' theories like Dumat being the big bad and Cory working for him sounded better than Cory being the big bad. However, Bioware never truly excelled at such storytelling with multiple layers and depth. Dumat we know is dead, if he somehow turns out to be the big bad, it'll take a hell of a lot to explain how he isn't so. That will probably work for the regulars of DA, but not for new players to the franchise.
It comes down to how well Bioware deliver Cory as the villain in DAI. I personally think Cory can be a great villain.
BTW. The Mass Effect team is not the DA team, so whatever bad that happened in ME3 has not bearing on DAI.
you never know if they will mess up just saying. Plus if we go by that logic it implies that da2 fans are more important that the other fans
DAI can mess up, any game can mess up. But using ME3 as a reason that they might again just because they are both created by Bioware is not good reasoning, because the writers for both games are completely different in different teams, with the exception of Patrick Weekes who wasn't responsible for the ending of ME3 (that's Marc Walters and Casey Hudson).
I don't know how you come to the statement that DA2 fans are more important than the other fans.
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