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[Inquisitor Julianos]

Destroy you maybe..I for one embrace The Elder One as my new Lord and Savior.

HERETIC!! *ALL THE FIRE FOR KILLDREN!*

[raging_monkey]

Seriously why were you lurking? Your just adorable XD

[Inquisitor Julianos]

*shrugs*

[raging_monkey]

*shrugs*

oh it was for Apostat. Lol but your adorable too lol XD

[Apostate.]

Bonus name incase banned: Adorable Apostate.

[raging_monkey]

Bonus name incase banned: Adorable Apostate.

+10k likes perfect lol

[Inquisitor Julianos]

Eh, the Elder one May or may not be the creepy fade spider monster.. but if i can take a reference to Cthulu being one of the "Elder Ones", or "Old Gods" than The Elder one is Cthulu.

[Killdren88]

If you want a Theory that really is grasping at Straws here is one for you.

 

Justice is an agent of The Elder One. Like Hawke was meant to Find the Red Lyrium and expose it to the World, justice posing as a spirit of Justice was sent to find the Grey Warden, and infiltrate the Mortal Realm and help kick start the war which would lead to his coming.

[Inquisitor Julianos]

i like mine better, i think the Elder one is a Cthulu head nod.

[Killdren88]

i like mine better, i think the Elder one is a Cthulu head nod.

 

I'd love it if he was a Lovecraftian Horror.

 

[Inquisitor Julianos]

would be awesome.

[lordsaren101]

Id love it if he isnt Corypheus.

[RobRam10]

If only Tony Jay was still alive...

[raging_monkey]

If only Tony Jay was still alive...

guess who bought the original legacy of kain and soul reaver for a $1 each.. this guy XD

[TinySquid]

As I don't feel like reading through 144 pages; forgive me if this has been brought up.

 

I just wanted to add the current theory going around on the thread talking about the leaked achievements. Spoiler thread, spoiler post; fair warning has been given.

 

So from the achievements, it seems pretty clear Corypheus is heavily related to the Elder One. The largest achievement "Doom Upon All the World" has a logo of Corypheus in the bottom-right corner and the dragon pictured has metal discs coming out of his head just like Corypheus does.

 

So obvious theory is that Corypheus is the Elder One; a most fitting title. Evidence being that, the achievement, and him fitting with being the only known being with the potential to cause The Breech. (known, not proven or unknown.) 

Others theorize that the spirit of Dumat is inhabiting Corypheus and using him. We don't know exactly what happens to an Old God after death; it is possible their soul simply wanders the Fade. Possible theory. 

 

Now my own thoughts. Personally, I would rather like Corypheus himself to be the Elder One. At first, I thought it was a terrible, obvious choice. But the more I think about it, the more it makes sense. Hawke encountered him at his weakest and he was still almost overwhelmingly powerful. With a (potential) 7 years to gather strength a "normal" Corypheus would most likely be almost unstoppable. Furthermore, we know almost nothing of him. The Legacy DLC is very mum with details. In addition, not every video game must have a  "true" Big Bad who is obscured (e.g. Flood, Starchild, ect.). Many outright state the true antagonist from the very beginning and are still highly engaging. It all depends on the quality of the storytelling. I envision a full game knowing Corypheus is the bad guy and being treated to his story and the answers to many of the big mysteries it would contain fascinating.

Furthermore, it would give a really, really solid reason for why Hawke will be in the game; beyond the other, arguably weaker reasons. If Bioware makes Hawke a rather large part of the game; appearing very regularly throughout, it would make this even more brilliant.

[Al Foley]

Personally on this whole Corphy/ Elder One thing.  I really get the feeling they are two different beings working for essentially the same end.  The Elder One is trying to come into thsi reality, and then Corphy is trying to bring him into this one through this reality.  Whether he is doing so knowingly or not.  Thsi could mean that Corphy started the breach and opened it but is not actually the full Big Bad of the game, just a lieutenant, a very powerful Lieutenant, but a Lieutenant none the same.  Though, there is certainly enough evidence given recent and other spoilers which suggests he could be the Elder One, I doubt it. 

[Kieran G.]

So obvious theory is that Corypheus is the Elder One; a most fitting title. Evidence being that, the achievement, and him fitting with being the only known being with the potential to cause The Breech. (known, not proven or unknown.) 

We don't know much of how the Darkspawn Magisters were able to enter the fade physically. so we shouldn't assume they are the only known beings. since we have heard legends of others. the most obvious being Fen'Harel and his mask which was shown to actually Tear the Veil. 

 

Not saying it isn't Cory since its pretty blatant now.

 

Now my own thoughts. Personally, I would rather like Corypheus himself to be the Elder One. At first, I thought it was a terrible, obvious choice. But the more I think about it, the more it makes sense. Hawke encountered him at his weakest and he was still almost overwhelmingly powerful. With a (potential) 7 years to gather strength a "normal" Corypheus would most likely be almost unstoppable. Furthermore, we know almost nothing of him. The Legacy DLC is very mum with details. In addition, not every video game must have a  "true" Big Bad who is obscured (e.g. Flood, Starchild, ect.). Many outright state the true antagonist from the very beginning and are still highly engaging. It all depends on the quality of the storytelling. I envision a full game knowing Corypheus is the bad guy and being treated to his story and the answers to many of the big mysteries it would contain fascinating.

Furthermore, it would give a really, really solid reason for why Hawke will be in the game; beyond the other, arguably weaker reasons. If Bioware makes Hawke a rather large part of the game; appearing very regularly throughout, it would make this even more brilliant.

A lot of us don't want him to be a villain not because he would be a bad character (in this game) but because he was already presented in a lack luster way, in a incredibly disappointing boss fight, with a incredibly obvious and melodramatic ending.

 

Pretty much we don't want it because it is such a weak introduction to present this character who has supposedly been working in the shadows for years, is this all powerful being who we must find and kill at every turn. 

 

A lot of us agree. learning things from one of those magisters would be quite interesting, but as the main villain cory falls short since in introduction was so poor.

 

I mean you have had months of David, and Mike, and Cameron all talking about this entity working in the shadows which you must search for and find the truth, yada yada. and then you find out. "Oh its that guy we killed in moments."

 

First impressions can be everything. as a choice it was bad, as a villain a magister might be very interesting. but cory as the villain, seems very disappointing. Literaly when i found out all my excitement for the EO had just fallen, and its not because i was biased, or am not excited for the game. its because all the intrigue of a interesting new villain, who has had been planning this for years, with legends deep within our nations and foreshadowing after foreshadowing of these events coming to be, and then bam, we get this cardboard character.

 

It's like if they were talking about ME4 and they go "You have to fight a secret organization which is trying to do unspeakable things to the people of the galaxy, waging a war on those who attempt to disrupt the peace and you must find the truth of who these creatures in the shadows are."

 

And then you find out its just reapers again. oh, cool we get to learn about the reapers but i was hoping for something cool with that description, not something i've already seen so i already know the answer to.

[Aulis Vaara]

Cory was NOT a bad boss fight, in fact it's the best boss fight in the entire game. We're you cheating or something?

[Kieran G.]

Cory was NOT a bad boss fight, in fact it's the best boss fight in the entire game. We're you cheating or something?

No, i just walked around and pressed X while weak shades appeared to be filler for a unthought out boss fight which lasted minutes and even on the higher difficulties Cory was weak, the shade's caused more problems for me than when i just started whacking him and he just said random lines.

 

For me the boss fights went like this Meredith > Ancient rock wraith > Cory > Orsino(Who was a very annoying on nightmare.)

 

Really that dumb point where he is just shooting flames in a circle and you just walk around at 2 miles and just click random totems as shades appear to try to make the fight interesting but its because they couldn't think of something interesting for cory to do except spin in a counter clockwise thing and shoot flames.

[lordsaren101]

I have zero problem with Corypheus playing a major role in game, it makes sense. However, to make him the Elder One I have to agree with KieranG. It is a cop out, and a poor literary and story decision. It is just rehashing something old and already used, slapping on a new shiny coat of paint doesn't turn a Chevy into an Audi. The elder one can go in so many directions, a chance to introduce something really world shattering, Corypheus just doesn't fit the bill, especially after he was so easily dispatched by Hawke.

[TTTX]

it's not confirmed that Coryp. is the EO, it's just confirmed that he is in DA:I.

 

It's still possible that he is just a pawn of the EO (And hopefully not a Kai Leng kind of pawn) after all DA:I hasn't come out yet.

 

Also we don't much about Coryp. other then he was one of the Magisters who attempted to gain the power of the so called Golden city and he was weak after sleeping for centuries of sleep (everyone would), now he has had time to get back to full strength.

 

 

For me the boss fights went like this Meredith > Ancient rock wraith > Cory > Orsino(Who was a very annoying on nightmare.)

Meredith's boss fight wasn't very good, it was basically take as much health as possible, before she jumped and threw her minion statues at you. the rock wraith was basically attack him, he would charge up, then you hide behind a pillar where it would be defenseless for a time then weak minions would pop up and attack you.

 

The boss fights weren't very good in general.

[Kieran G.]

Meredith's boss fight wasn't very good, it was basically take as much health as possible, before she jumped and threw her minion statues at you. the rock wraith was basically attack him, he would charge up, then you hide behind a pillar where it would be defenseless for a time then weak minions would pop up and attack you.

 

The boss fights weren't very good in general.

Oh i know they weren't good.

 

I just think those two were more fun and more difficult than Cory's boss fight which was him spinning in a circle shooting fire.

 

Notice i didn't even put the arishok's boss fight on there. 

[TTTX]

If only Tony Jay was still alive...

If he was, then the EO would have one hell off a voice.

 

Tony jay, died to early.

 

 

Oh i know they weren't good.

 

I just think those two were more fun and more difficult than Cory's boss fight which was him spinning in a circle shooting fire.

 

Notice i didn't even put the arishok's boss fight on there. 

I personally didn't think they were difficult or fun, Coryp's felt more fun and difficult especially if you didn't have a range attacker.

[Kieran G.]

II personally didn't think they were difficult or fun, Coryp's felt more fun and difficult especially if you didn't have a range attacker.

All you needed was one mage and a tank to win. it was more difficult fighting the shades next to the totems than it was fighting corypheus when he decided "Ok i'm going to stop spinning like a ballerina now."

[TTTX]

All you needed was one mage and a tank to win. it was more difficult fighting the shades next to the totems than it was fighting corypheus when he decided "Ok i'm going to stop spinning like a ballerina now."

most companions always seems to die once the fire and rock wall starts.

 

companions always get stuck in the rock walls.