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[Sexyvex]

I have a few theories, though I doubt that they are any more likely than the others. I don't think that the Elder One is an old god or the maker but has a strong relationship with the former. My first thought when I saw the zombie dragon was that it might be the Elder One, an old god that hasn't been corrupted by blight. Now, I think that it's either a high dragon corrupted by the fade or a full on archdemon. My money is on high dragon, but it would also make sense for it to be an archdemon, at least in this theory. What better way to show off the power of the new baddy by having what you thought was the biggest baddy under his sway? I can't recall names (and I'm on mobile so checking woild be dicy) but it would be similar to how Skeletor became subservient to the big Snake guy in the He-Man cartoon. If it is an archdemon, that would be incentive for the grey wardens to join in, surely.

Okay, now here's the real theory part. What if The Maker didn't imprison the Old Gods? What if they are, essentially, the dragon equivalent of dreamers and they learned of the Elder One while traveling the fade? They then hid themselves away and went into a deep slumber to trap him in the Black City, so that he would not do what he's doing now, ripping open the fade and attempting to merge the two worlds. This would endanger not only their worshippers, but the world and them as well. The lore may also have it wrong, and the Old Gods didn't teach the magisters blood magic, the Elder One did. He invited them to the 'Golden City' and gave them the tools to reach it. Once there, they became the first darkspawn. Without knowing why, they sought out the Old Gods and corrupted them, one by one. This is what the EO wanted, as the taint is his own. This is also why demons fear the Black City, merely interscting with it or the EO changes them into even worse monsters, possibly with less free will or intelligence. So the darkspawn start the blights by corrupting Archdemons. The Old Gods never wanted to destroy, but to rule. Destruction is the EO's MO. With each blight, the veil grows thinner and another of his jailers is removed. Now that the fifth archdemon is gone (or in the old god baby) the shackles that bind him are finally weak enough for him to resist and possibly overtake the last two Old Gods (after 9 years and further veil thinning). As for what the Elder One himself is, I'm hoping he's not a dragon, a corrupted magister like Corpheus wouldn't be strong enough in my mind. He may simlpy bethe apex predator of the fade, or whatever world the eluvihans go to, and he's expanding his hunting grounds.

If any of this is the case, it's possible that the old god baby, who would be 8-9 physically, unless it possessed an older body, will shed some light on this. I also think that the old god baby happens no matter your choice in DA:O because Morrigan could very well have A: went to Riordan for the child or B: raped Alistair or you in their sleep. It's a once in a lifetime opportunity, who knows what she would do.

This all came about when I thought that the only way they would bring archdemons back would be with a double event. Not necessarily a blight, but since another, non corrupted dragon is in the fade, I dont see why it couldn't be an archdemon.

[HBC Dresden]

I kinda assume The Elder One was an uncorrupted Old God, one of the two left anyway. Probably wrong though.

 

Again, I fear that's too predictable, lazy, and uninteresting. Possible, but I would be disappointed   

 

Too predictable yes, but I'm not sure lazy is the right adjective. I think "simple" is more appropriate. In any case, it would be interesting to me personally because I'm not too concerned with the identity of The Elder One, I'm far more interested in what it can do and what knowledge it holds. An Old God would be a source of so many answers, like the real story behind The Black City and the darkspawn without all the Chantry propaganda.

[Kieran G.]

Too predictable yes, but I'm not sure lazy is the right adjective. I think "simple" is more appropriate. In any case, it would be interesting to me personally because I'm not too concerned with the identity of The Elder One, I'm far more interested in what it can do and what knowledge it holds. An Old God would be a source of so many answers, like the real story behind The Black City and the darkspawn without all the Chantry propaganda.

Yeah i just doubt they would use a Old god. I mean when ever we see a dragon people theorize its an old god. 

 

Flemeth can turn into a dragon? Must be an Old God!

 

A dragon with a cult? must be an Old God!

 

We see a different looking dragon in the trailer of DA2? Can't be anything but an Old God.

 

Or hell remember when the announcement trailer for DA:I came out? and it shows the Ferelden Frostback landing below the Breach and everyone was saying it was an old god? people always think its an old god when ever a dragon shows up that i think its just one big red herring. 

[Kieran G.]

Theory~

Great first post. 

[raging_monkey]

I like that the thread is getting bigger with more theories all plausible

[Kieran G.]

I like that the thread is getting bigger with more theories all plausible

I wonder what the music is going to be like for the elder one. i mean they replaced inon zur with a new guy. and i just wonder if he is going to be able to give a good feeling of dread.

[raging_monkey]

I wonder what the music is going to be like for the elder one. i mean they replaced inon zur with a new guy. and i just wonder if he is going to be able to give a good feeling of dread.

did some research on trevor morris(new guy, watch an entire season of the tudors) and it will be sort of mencing but with a air of "nobilty and civility, with a big dash of cruelty

[Kieran G.]

did some research on trevor morris(new guy, watch an entire season of the tudors) and it will be sort of mencing but with a air of "nobilty and civility, with a big dash of cruelty

Yeah. i learned all that, and i really liked the borgia's i just hope he is able to give some good feelings. tv is a lot different then composing for video games. i mean of what i've heard i've liked it, we just haven't seen them try sad scenes, or scenes of fear.

[raging_monkey]

EoT was meant to show fear or aleast despair, i think

[Kieran G.]

EoT was meant to show fear or aleast despair, i think

But that might have not been his music. a lot of times trailers use different music than their games.

[raging_monkey]

True it is curious what musjc the elder evokes

[Kieran G.]

True it is curious what musjc the elder evokes

Because ill be honest, i liked the soundtrack for da:O but i didn't feel much when the music was in game, like i wasn't all that impressed. they should take some hints from Halo, that franchise knew how to make music that would make you feel.

[raging_monkey]

Legit

[Kieran G.]

Legit

I wonder if we are going to know of the elder one from the getgo or if its like at the halfway mark.

[raging_monkey]

Well dorian describes the venatori so it could be early maybe 2hrs in. But why would the ventori fight for the elder one i mean cory's powers only work on wardens so its a bit OP if elder one can subvert other will even on a minor level

[Kieran G.]

Well dorian describes the venatori so it could be early maybe 2hrs in. But why would the ventori fight for the elder one i mean cory's powers only work on wardens so its a bit OP if elder one can subvert other will even on a minor level

I dont think he controls their minds, i think they worship him, like any cult that preaches about the end of the world.

[raging_monkey]

I lack a cult/religious understanding on the subject(not for lack of trying) but why would they worship a herald of the end would they try to stop it instead of siding with it

[TTTX]

Well dorian describes the venatori so it could be early maybe 2hrs in. But why would the ventori fight for the elder one i mean cory's powers only work on wardens so its a bit OP if elder one can subvert other will even on a minor level

The Leader of the Venatori, from I gathered from the demo made a deal with the Elder One in order to save his son Felix from death or something like that.

[raging_monkey]

The Leader of the Venatori, from I gathered from the demo made a deal with the Elder One in order to save his son Felix from death or something like that.

so he can keep or bring people back to life... sounds spirit like

[Kieran G.]

so he can keep or bring people back to life... sounds spirit like

But their are many different cult that worship him like a god, think about just the cult of the maker, it was a cult saying god hates you all for what you have done, no you must war against all that opposes the makers will. they get following because they have influence. in DA:I a neveran king gets a ventori adviser, In 1 or so ancient Emperor Drakon get a cult of the maker adviser, both controversial at the time.

[Sexyvex]

Suppposedly, your soul goes through the fade when you die. If the EO is from the fade and powerful enough to cut the veil like butter, it wouldn't be so far fetched for him to be able to return a spirit to it's body. The son didn't look so healthy, though. If that is the result of him bringing someone back to life, it may not be as intricate as returning a soul to it's body, but rather animating a corpse and giving it enough of its memories to pass as alive-ish. Just because it can make promises, doesn't mean it can deliver.

[TTTX]

so he can keep or bring people back to life... sounds spirit like

Assuming the Elder One have been trapped in the fade for a very long time, I would be surprised he has learned a thing or two.

[raging_monkey]

Egad things just even more interesting

[SnakeCode]

I wonder if we are going to know of the elder one from the getgo or if its like at the halfway mark.

I think we may see him(/her?) for the first time when we first get blown into the fade, and that it's actually The Elder One that casts us back out into the real world, but in doing so inadvertently gives us some it's power. Hence the fade hand. 

 

(I'm thinking The Elder One uses the same power to open the fade tears that we use to close them.)

[raging_monkey]

I think we may see him(/her?) for the first time when we first get blown into the fade, and that it's actually The Elder One that casts us back out into the real world, but in doing so inadvertently gives us some it's power. Hence the fade hand.  (I'm thinking The Elder One uses the same power to open the fade tears that we use to close them.)

so opposites of the same coin?... i like it!