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[Taleroth]

what do you expect Hawke to do. all they are trying to do is simply live their life and provide for their family they can't help it if one situation after another keeps falling on their lap so it is unfair to blame them for everything that goes on. the only thing you can possibly blaming for was helping Anders distract the revered mother anything else was nothing but unfortunate circumstance

 

Like I said, there's no easy solution to the Hawke problem. If he just died, there'd probably have setting equivalent angels invading trying to get rid of him. If he took up farming, everyone would starve.

 

There needs to be like a magic powered rocket so he can be shot off into space.

 

How can he be when he's dead in many play throughs?

Lots of dead people are showing up, some people in more playthroughs than others.

 

But given the suspicions about Archie, he's probably harder to kill than most.

[Killdren88]

Like I said, there's no easy solution to the Hawke problem. If he just died, there'd probably have setting equivalent angels invading trying to get rid of him. If he took up farming, everyone would starve.

There needs to be like a magic powered rocket so he can be shot off into space.

Lots of dead people are showing up, some people in more playthroughs than others.

But given the suspicions about Archie, he's probably harder to kill than most.

The Architect is probably alive the same way Cory survived. I'll be curious to see what will happen if these two meet.

[Todrazok]

I don't think they'll handwave the state of the Architect, that being said I'd be fascinated to see him meet or atleast comment on Corypheus.

In general I can't wait to see how our companions and advisors will feel about the ancient magisters still being out there

[Taleroth]

Wouldn't need to be handwaved. He's likely a Tevinter Magister himself, just forgot. Could have transferred to another body.

[Todrazok]

It would still leave a sour taste in alot of players mouth though, as there was nothing hinting to the Architect bodyhopping.

[Mr.House]

No I think the base game is primarily focused on us finding out who is behind the Breach, stop the Agents of Chaos, close the Breach and build up the Inquisition to be a powerful game.

 

Spoiler

Corypheus is the Herald of the Elder One, his primary Agent. Which is why the base game focuses on dealing with him as an enemy. Elder One or Dumat Reborn (in all probability) is someone who is certain to rain instant massive death on Thedas. So, I am guessing they will let the Inquisition deal with him when we are at our full strength and having  solved all the mage-templar problem, Grey Warden mess, Red Templar, etc

 

Which means Elder One will be dealt with in a massive Dragonborn-size style DLC. Come to think of it, the Dragonborn DLC's main plot was to take out the First Dragonborn or you could call him the Eldest of Dragonborns....

 

Hmmm...

Dragonborn was a horrible dlc with little story though.

[Killdren88]

Dragonborn was a horrible dlc with little story though.

 

Yeah. I'm seeing a Cliff hanger where Cory Summons The Elder One, but we kill Cory, but the Elder One goes into hiding to plot his next move.

[Potatoespotate]

Spoiler

Cory is The Elder One. mmorpg.com twitch stream kinda confirms it, in which cole says "there, the elder one one, he's angry you took this mages"

[TTTX]

No new theories?

[Killdren88]

No new theories?

 

Eh..with release days away I think we squeezed all we could from it until we get our hands on the game....But I think we all agreed on

 

Spoiler

Cory is The Elder One's Herald. And will get a cliff Hanger ending where we kill Cory but after he releases the Elder One who goes to plot his next move.

[Killdren88]

I thought....

 

Spoiler

Someone posted something in the spoiler forums that at the end of the credits a Giant Dragon like thing comes out of the Breach and you can't fight him or get to him leaving it up for a DLC or DA4?

Am I missing something 156 pages is alot to go through O.o

 

I wouldn't know. and if that were the case that would be way out of left field.

[Dusksworn]

Eh..with release days away I think we squeezed all we could from it until we get our hands on the game....But I think we all agreed on

 

Spoiler

Cory is The Elder One's Herald. And will get a cliff Hanger ending where we kill Cory but after he releases the Elder One who goes to plot his next move.

Spoiler

That's not the spoilers I heard.

 

What I heard was that Corypheus became disillusioned with the Old Gods and believes there's no Maker, so he wants to become the God he feels the world needs to bring order to it.

[Todrazok]

Spoiler

That's not the spoilers I heard.

 

What I heard was that Corypheus became disillusioned with the Old Gods and believes there's no Maker, so he wants to become the God he feels the world needs to bring order to it.

Spoiler

This makes the most sense to me . While the supposed cliffhanger about the "elder" dragon entering Thedas through the Breach at the end of the game sounds cool, Im not sure I buy it yet. My impression of what we've heard is that the "cliffhanger" is merely some hints, perhaps after the credits, that allude to what the DLC/Expac will be about. I think it's fair to say that Bioware will want the main game to stand very well on it's own too by resolving the main conflict completely.

Ultimately, at this point im completely expecting Corypheus to be the elder one.

[Killdren88]

Spoiler

That's not the spoilers I heard.

What I heard was that Corypheus became disillusioned with the Old Gods and believes there's no Maker, so he wants to become the God he feels the world needs to bring order to it.

But that does not make sense bioware said that the elder one was supposed to be A mystery so it does not make sense that Corey is the elder one. we see Cory's silhouette in the demo it isn't much of a mystery unless you did not play Dragon Age 2 so I am convinced that Cory is just the Herald and the elder one has yet to reveal himself.

[cardinalally]

But that does not make sense bioware said that the elder one was supposed to be A mystery so it does not make sense that Corey is the elder one. we see Cory's silhouette in the demo it isn't much of a mystery unless you did not play Dragon Age 2 so I am convinced that Cory is just the Herald and the elder one has yet to reveal himself.

 

It could be the Cory thinks he is the one pulling the strings.  I think this was discussed many pages ago.  So Cory thinks he is the one in charge, but unbeknownst to him he is actually being manipulated by the true Elder One.  Cory is defeated at the end by the Inquisition, and everyone thinks this is the end.  But in fact the true power behind Cory manages to get out (this could be the cliff hanger) In this game we defeat Cory and the immediate threat he poses, but another bigger threat is released.  Either to be tackled in dlc/expansion or in another game.

 

What they could do with this, is introduce the big bad that escaped the breach in the cliff hanger in a dlc or expansion.  Everyone can think it is over but then we learn otherwise.  This could then set up the next game.  Instead of making a short game (DA2  ) to bridge the big ideas they could do it in an expansion.

 

Idk, but I think this would be a good way for the series to move forward.   

[viperidae]

 

Spoiler

That was my idea . Basically your old reversal, you beat corypheus, stand trimumphant over him, and somebody like cullen/cass screams "The elder one is dead!", whereupong cory starts laughing and reveals he is not the elder one after all, and the real elder one is something far worse.

[Killdren88]

Double post.

[Killdren88]

Cory getting manipulated makes much more sense. At the end we hear " You have outlived your usefulness." And the Elder One somkes Cory.

[cardinalally]

Cory getting manipulated makes much more sense. At the end we hear " You have outlived your usefulness." And the Elder One somkes Cory.

 

The more I learn the more I'm inclined to believe this.  Bioware has maintained throughout that this is not an END.  Instead it wraps up some plot points, aka mage/templar, the civil war in Orlais etc.  But this is also a great time to introduce knew stuff.  Think of this like the season final of a TV show.  They wrap up the plot points of the season, but introduce stuff for the next season.

 

This game is about

A) the Breach

The rise of the inquisition

C) Find the one responsible for the Breach

 

So the game would be concluded by:

It may very well be that the Breach was caused by Cory.  He may have been influenced, knowingly or unknowingly, but killing him would be finding who caused the Breach.  The rise of the inquisition, the whole game pretty much.  And we seal the Breach in the end.  This is a self contained plot, but there are elements that could lead to the introduction to something new.  This would be smart by Bioware and one of the developers talked about this is the wrap up for the south.  We have spent three games here.  It is time to maybe move North and hinting at a new bad guy would be a cool way to move it north.

[Bayonet Hipshot]

Yep, I think with all the information we have now...

 

Spoiler

Corypheus is the Elder One...However at the end credits, his actions and the Inquisition's actions may have unleashed an untainted Old God from its prison...We still have two of those right ?

 

So perhaps that will be our DLC...

 

Spoiler

Where we fight an untainted Old God...Thedas has so far only fought tainted ones, Archdemons, not the untainted one...

[Todrazok]

Not saying I disagree I kept the Architect alive after all. I just don't see them ignoring the choice.

That being said the ancient magisters are absolutely fascinating. I can't wait to see what more info Corypheus will reveal in Inquisition

[DEANER555]

maybe the elder one is the inquisitor himself.but thats just a guest

[Killdren88]

Just gonna say...LESS THAN 24 HOURS! *Hype intensifies*