Lol the bastard corrupted lyrium, a dragon, and can pull captian ginyuu's im betting he somehow "survived" my mage's dimension blast.
Haha "parts"
Must say i thought he was a waste of story but i actually like his new VA much more menacing
same VA actually. But i do love his look in the Frostbite Engine. he did look menacing, just wish we had seen more of him so we could have feared him.
Really? Same VA wow he must have liked the role to redo it. Anyway yeah i wanted to learn more about the BC. I mean sure it gives cred to the chantry' story(and im disdainful of it in general) but how was it always black, why say it was golden, maybe andraste lied by omittion, hell maybe cory proved the chant is crap and just doing this to prove a point saying "we are own gods"
well cory did proved the blight came from the Golden/eternal/black city. But what im curious about is the "Slumber" fen'harel was in, the murder of Mythal, Why couldn't Mythal or Fen'Harel couldn't just ask their buddy gods for help with what ever they were doing, and HOW did the gods escape heaven if that is true.
Also who are the forgotten One if the Creators do exist in the physical world?
What we do know is Some of the Elven Gods do exist, if they are truly gods we don't know, but the fact flemeth can control who ever steps into her well is a tad god like.
And lyrium in it's own way is alive, and Red Lyrium is Blighted lyrium.
But my quick questions would be, how did these dwarfs manipulate a tainted lyrium ore into a idol without causing Darkspawn or Ghouls?
And did the taint exist before the Magisters but they just rereleased it or something like that?
EDIT: what if its really that simple, Fen'Harel locked the Taint away from the world in the golden city and that is why it is black, so when thousands years later the magisters try to break in, the taint gets out and that is why they never saw it golden, because the taint was already locked inside of it turning it black.
Awwws so many new mysteries
it should also be mentioned that Cory called out to Dumat and asked if he ever existed could aid Cory.
I'm wondering it there is a thread that is sort of an collection of all the gods(elven+forgotten, old and the Maker, if I'm not mistaken that's that) and their descriptions. Maybe that's how we could notice some similarities and figure some **** out.
What we do know is Some of the Elven Gods do exist, if they are truly gods we don't know, but the fact flemeth can control who ever steps into her well is a tad god like.
And lyrium in it's own way is alive, and Red Lyrium is Blighted lyrium.
But my quick questions would be, how did these dwarfs manipulate a tainted lyrium ore into a idol without causing Darkspawn or Ghouls?
And did the taint exist before the Magisters but they just rereleased it or something like that?
EDIT: what if its really that simple, Fen'Harel locked the Taint away from the world in the golden city and that is why it is black, so when thousands years later the magisters try to break in, the taint gets out and that is why they never saw it golden, because the taint was already locked inside of it turning it black.
this makes sense, but it leaves a few questions, and heres a few conjectures on my part.
1. Corypheus and the others breached the "golden" city centuries before, did they do it the same way corypheus tried this time, via the orb? If so, it would mean that solas/fen harel and flemeth/mythal may have had something to do with the breach into the city centuries before. And why are they trying to breach back into the fade if the blight was already released.... doubt they could stuff it back in. And if not to return the blight to the fade, then still, why are they breaching the fade? (solas did give cory the orb, so im assuming they are using him)
2. The singing with the blight and controlling people and all that.... cole makes mention at the well of sorrows of everyone singing the same... or something like that. We know that the blood writing for the dalish was actually a mark for slaves in the old times, could those in power, I.E. the gods have used it to control others back in the old times? Maybe it was them speaking to the magisters and not the "old gods"
3. For some reason, the elven gods of mythal and fen harel dont seem all that godly to me.... I mean we know the old elves are immortal, but maybe in not the way we think, maybe they are considered immortal by possessing new bodies. anyways, point being they seem more normal beings than acctual gods, leading me to believe that the elven pantheon aka their gods were actually just really powerful individuals.
I'm wondering it there is a thread that is sort of an collection of all the gods(elven+forgotten, old and the Maker, if I'm not mistaken that's that) and their descriptions. Maybe that's how we could notice some similarities and figure some **** out.
You're kinda looking at that thread. but here is a quick list of the gods we know
Ancient Tevinter-Creator
Ancient Elvehan- Elgar'nan(all father) Mythal(all mother) Falon'din, Adruil, sylaise, June, Ghilan'naan, Fen'Harel.
Ancient Elvehan also believed in a set of gods called the forgotten ones, we only know a few of their names. Geldauran, Daern'thal and Anaris.
Old God Tevinter- Dumat, Zazikel, Andoral, toth, urthemial, razikale, lusacan.
Andrastian era- The Maker.
Then you get into avvar, chasind religions but i don't know much about those religions (And don't feel like findingout 
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this makes sense, but it leaves a few questions, and heres a few conjectures on my part.
1. Corypheus and the others breached the "golden" city centuries before, did they do it the same way corypheus tried this time, via the orb? If so, it would mean that solas/fen harel and flemeth/mythal may have had something to do with the breach into the city centuries before. And why are they trying to breach back into the fade if the blight was already released.... doubt they could stuff it back in. And if not to return the blight to the fade, then still, why are they breaching the fade? (solas did give cory the orb, so im assuming they are using him)
Solas said he wanted Corypheus to power the orb. Not rip the fade open. in fact he wanted us to stop cory but he wanted us to recover the orb. so obviously he wanted to use it when it was powered.
2. The singing with the blight and controlling people and all that.... cole makes mention at the well of sorrows of everyone singing the same... or something like that. We know that the blood writing for the dalish was actually a mark for slaves in the old times, could those in power, I.E. the gods have used it to control others back in the old times? Maybe it was them speaking to the magisters and not the "old gods"
I haven't thought enough about the Blood Writing to give any opinion or argument, so forgive me.
3. For some reason, the elven gods of mythal and fen harel dont seem all that godly to me.... I mean we know the old elves are immortal, but maybe in not the way we think, maybe they are considered immortal by possessing new bodies. anyways, point being they seem more normal beings than acctual gods, leading me to believe that the elven pantheon aka their gods were actually just really powerful individuals.
Oh i've never truly believed they are gods who created the world, but more of mortal or spirits with power unlike anything the elves had seen before. But i still believe the Old Gods were in fact the Forgotten Ones and at some point Enemies of the Creators. and in my mind this revelation about Flemeth and Solas only further my belief since now we know both the Old Gods and Creators are immortal in a way, and mortal in another way.
But what makes me the most curious is "I was too weak to unlock [the orb] after my slumber" why was the dread wolf sleeping while Mythal ran around the fade until she could find a host? and what is that giant eluvian they are in front of.
I think it may connect to somewhere since when Kieran ran off we saw that the Eluvian can actually send you to entire different dimensions, be it the fade or that in between world.
Another elven god that's never mentioned was Elger'nans dad in which he overthrew. His dad apperantly was the sun and grew jealous of him and scorched the land and killed everything.
The sun god isn't worhipped or named. Its ironic the Chantry's symbol is that of a burning sun
the sun wasn't so much as described as Elgar'nans dad but more of the creator.
"Long ago, when time itself was young, the only things in existence were the sun and the land. The sun, curious about the land, bowed his head close to her body, and Elgar'nan was born in the place where they touched. As a gift to Elgar'nan, the land brought forth great birds and beasts of sky and forest, and all manner of wonderful green things."
But i wouldn't trust the legend so much, there may be a connection, but to me it sounds like just another story they made which sounds like Native American stories of their spirits. which it strongly seems since it quite obviously looks like the Elven Pantheon is influenced by Native American tales.
While I don't know if this is tide to the Architect surviving I saw a journal in Varric's personal quest where a miner was saved by a talking intelligent darkspawn regarded as a polite one.
Ok too much foreshadow about the Qunari and their original home.
All the stuff Iron Bull says about the Qun being needed and that maybe the people back in their home land call themself kossith, and how without their Qun they would be consumed by rage like dragons.
And now with this operation i just did where a woman was making chalk marks on inquisition outposts, and when captured she says "Glory to those across the Sea!" and dies from poison.
Seems like the Qunari are going to be important in upcoming dlc or games.
Anyone else hoping the whole time they were playing the game that they could replace Corypheus 
?
Except humans left the North long before Qunari came to be. Kossith existed in the North long before Tevinter.
Except humans left the North long before Qunari came to be. Kossith existed in the North long before Tevinter.
the kossith aren't from the north. they are from the east. they invaded Par vollen or "The North" in the Steel Age but in -400ish ancient a kossith tribe landed in eastern ferelden and made a small village but was wiped out by Darkspawn, and that is where ogre came from, or it is believed at least.
but some scholars believe the Humans did in fact come from Par Vollen and that is who might have created the pyramids all over the that land. (Or they could have been made my the Fex) but the Qunari are not native to Par Vollen.
the most intriguing thing to me, is when Bull mentions the Kossith and how he doesn't think they would look anything like the "Qunari" race.
the most intriguing thing to me, is when Bull mentions the Kossith and how he doesn't think they would look anything like the "Qunari" race.
Do you think maybe their original homeland had dragons? or have they just been idolizing them for the half century?
But i totally agree. iron bull spoke a lot about the original Kossith to where i think we might be seeing them.
i agree.Do you think maybe their original homeland had dragons? or have they just been idolizing them for the half century?
But i totally agree. iron bull spoke a lot about the original Kossith to where i think we might be seeing them.
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