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[raging_monkey]

I don't think it's actually the Maker or whatever Andraste worshiped.I think it's the thing which lives in the Black City, though.Which we know is real because we see it in the Fade.

ahh misread that apologies. Then if thats the case... well i may need pants

[Willowhugger]

There's some tiny circumstantial evidence to this too. If the Elder One has a gigantic vast demon army, what better place for it to be from than the Center of the Fade (for whatever that's worth)?

[Aulis Vaara]

There's some tiny circumstantial evidence to this too. If the Elder One has a gigantic vast demon army, what better place for it to be from than the Center of the Fade (for whatever that's worth)?

But demons don't actually go to the Black City. They are terrified of it.

As for dragons, we know one very powerful mage who can shapeshift into one, why not another?

Corypheus does seem like a likely candidate, but considering he's rarely considered it has probably already been said that it's not him.

[Willowhugger]

But demons don't actually go to the Black City. They are terrified of it.

As for dragons, we know one very powerful mage who can shapeshift into one, why not another?

Corypheus does seem like a likely candidate, but considering he's rarely considered it has probably already been said that it's not him.

I think Corypheus would be a poor candidate since Hawke was able to beat the **** out of him.

 

Likewise, I think he's going to be a minor-Boss ruling over the Grey Wardens.

You have to destroy him to get the GW's as part of your Inqusition Army.

[Aulis Vaara]

Hawke only beat him because Corypheus was disoriented and weak from his imprisonment. Full strength augmented with red lyrium would make him the most powerful mage on the face of Thedas.

[Willowhugger]

Hawke only beat him because Corypheus was disoriented and weak from his imprisonment. Full strength augmented with red lyrium would make him the most powerful mage on the face of Thedas.

I'd find it hard to take him seriously, to be honest. To me, he'll always be the guy Hawke whipped like a redheaded step child.

Another reason I doubt it was that Corphyeus seemed to be a fairly faithful Dragon Cultist.

 

The Black City being a place demons fear could be another reason the Elder One is from there.

 

But, again, we have no idea.

[caradoc2000]

Elder One? He is an OAP who bears a grudge against Orlais society that cheated him out of pension and dental plan.

[TheLastSuperSaiyan87]

I really hope he isn't an Archdemon we already fought one in Origins I want a new main antagonist

[Tevinter Rose]

He's Thanos lol. His voice when he laughs sounds exactly like him.

I think the Elder One might be an elven trickster god.

[Kieran G.]

There's some tiny circumstantial evidence to this too. If the Elder One has a gigantic vast demon army, what better place for it to be from than the Center of the Fade (for whatever that's worth)?

We don't know he has a demon army, only that he caused the veil to tear. they could easily just be demons pouring in because they can.

 

Also i was looking over all of the talk. and has no one talked about fen'harel? he was talked about so much in TME and then Felassan whole ending scene, i mean Fen'harel can easily be another demon we have heard about in different stories, i just think Elven lore is going to be very heavy in Inquisition.

[raging_monkey]

We don't know he has a demon army, only that he caused the veil to tear. they could easily just be demons pouring in because they can. Also i was looking over all of the talk. and has no one talked about fen'harel? he was talked about so much in TME and then Felassan whole ending scene, i mean Fen'harel can easily be another demon we have heard about in different stories, i just think Elven lore is going to be very heavy in Inquisition.

fen'harel also seems a likly candate. But ive always assumed him to be a nutral demon

[Kieran G.]

fen'harel also seems a likly candate. But ive always assumed him to be a nutral demon

I mean if you read the story, it kinda sounds like Fen'harel is doing the same thing to the Orlesians/Mages/Templars that he did to the gods. tricked them into getting what he wanted.

 

Tricking two people against each other so he can have the power. and that's why Felessan would say Briala reminds him of Fen'harel, because that's what she is doing with Celene and Gaspard.

 

Edit:I was able to find the story on the dragon age wiki and deleted my crap retelling of it XD.

 

In the story, Fen'Harel was captured by the hunting goddess, Andruil. He had angered her by hunting the halla without her blessing, and she tied him to a tree and declared that he would have to serve in her bed for a year and a day to pay her back. But as she made camp that night, the dark god Anaris found them, and Anaris swore that he would kill Fen'Harel for crimes against the Forgotten Ones. Andruil and Anaris decided that they would duel for the right to claim Fen'Harel. He called out to Anaris during the fight and told him of a flaw in Andruil's armor just above the hip, and Anaris stabbed Andruil in the side, and she fell. Then Fen'Harel told Anaris that he owed the Dread Wolf for the victory and ought to get his freedom. Anaris was so affronted by Fen'Harel's audacity that he turned and shouted insults at the prisoner, and so he did not see Andruil, injured but alive, rise behind him and attack with her great bow. Anaris fell with a golden arrow in his back, badly injured, and while both gods slumbered to heal their wounds, Fen'Harel chewed through his ropes and escaped.

[raging_monkey]

Hmm i will cede the arguement and agree that does seem to be current M.O. but what the end goal aside from goodhood makes no sense why cause chaos if fen'harel is a analoug to loki of norse mythos

[Killdren88]

Would Fen'harel have the proper motivation for putting things in motion?

[Kieran G.]

Hmm i will cede the arguement and agree that does seem to be current M.O. but what the end goal aside from goodhood makes no sense why cause chaos if fen'harel is a analoug to loki of norse mythos

Why did he lock away the dark and light gods? because he wanted the mortal world to walk around alone. I mean do we know any reason a Old God would open the veil when they are just locked up in the mortal world, Or why would Flemeth or Corypheus? The only enemy that would have any reason to rip into the mortal world would be some powerful demon lord(a forgotten one or the formless one) and thats because demons are jealous of that world.

 

But we haven't had many hints of a forgotten one, we have had a few mentions of the formless one, but fen'harel was mention a good deal in masked empire and DA2

 

And he's never really had a reason for why he does anything except he can, personally i would love the twist that he has been messing with people since Andraste and crap. but that's just my own wish.

[Kieran G.]

Would Fen'harel have the proper motivation for putting things in motion?

Well he did lock away the Light and Dark gods away so he could have thedas dreams all to himself

 

Or at least thats what we know from the story

[raging_monkey]

So theories are;
A: a elven god who wishes for more godhood
B: a demon of time immemorale that wishes for godhood
C: a complete unknown being that was locked in the black city that has spent eons plotting his escape

[Kieran G.]

So theories are;
A: a elven god who wishes for more godhood
B: a demon of time immemorale that wishes for godhood
C: a complete unknown being that was locked in the black city that has spent eons plotting his escape

Yeah kinda. i mean we could all be wrong, and we find out its just something lame like a Blood mage we've never heard of who just wants power. so lets hope its more creative then that.

[raging_monkey]

Yeah kinda. i mean we could all be wrong, and we find out its just something lame like a Blood mage we've never heard of who just wants power. so lets hope its more creative then that.

bioware is full of good writers barring a few hiccups. But seeing that dude with the possessed eyes( felassen correct?) We may be dealing with a abomination of untold power. I mean he can channel water (from what i saw) we've never seen this

[Kieran G.]

bioware is full of good writers barring a few hiccups. But seeing that dude with the possessed eyes( felassen correct?) We may be dealing with a abomination of untold power. I mean he can channel water (from what i saw) we've never seen this

Holy ****... Everyone assumed Felassan was dead at the end of TME... but if that is him in the Enemy of Thedas trailer my mind will be blown 0_0
 
THAT NEVER EVEN CROSSED MY MIND.
 
But the tattoos, The hood, the elven-ness. Wow it might really be Felassan.

 

 

[raging_monkey]

Holy ****... Everyone assumed Felassan was dead at the end of TME... but if that is him in the Enemy of Thedas trailer my mind will be blown 0_0 THAT NEVER EVEN CROSSED MY MIND. But the tattoos, The hood, the elven-ness. Wow it might really be Felassan.

its really just a guess honestly i spend hrs reading lore and the books so i just made reasonable guess. Think about it my friend the scen where ismael and felassen just ends apbrutly and ismael is a "spirit of choice" he gave felassen a choice to futher his knowledge at a high price. This just theory with circumstantial evidence at best

[Kieran G.]

its really just a guess honestly i spend hrs reading lore and the books so i just made reasonable guess. Think about it my friend the scen where ismael and felassen just ends apbrutly and ismael is a "spirit of choice" he gave felassen a choice to futher his knowledge at a high price. This just theory with circumstantial evidence at best

Yes but Thats the best theory I've heard who this man is, i mean. why would Felassan not want to know the Phrase for the eluvians unless he knew someone would go into his mind, 0_0 and that kinda looks like how they described Felassan in the book. my god. I've watch that trailer like 50 times just to make sure i've caught everything, and it never even crossed my mind. like i just completely assumed he was dead at the end of the book.

 

Just wow. good on you.

[raging_monkey]

Yes but Thats the best theory I've heard who this man is, i mean. why would Felassan not want to know the Phrase for the eluvians unless he knew someone would go into his mind, 0_0 and that kinda looks like how they described Felassan in the book. my god. I've watch that trailer like 50 times just to make sure i've caught everything, and it never even crossed my mind. like i just completely assumed he was dead at the end of the book. Just wow. good on you.

thank you. Now we just need a endgame goal. Ismael is a spirit of choice though thats the thing i have trouble understanding

[Killdren88]

thank you. Now we just need a endgame goal. Ismael is a spirit of choice though thats the thing i have trouble understanding

 

So I am to understand that this Felassan died at the end of TME and something is just using his body to do something then?

[Mistic]

So I am to understand that this Felassan died at the end of TME and something is just using his body to do something then?

 

Spoilers from TME:

Spoiler

Felassan had a meeting with his master in dreams, in a forest in the Fade. In theory, his master was angry because Felassan hadn't taken the Eluvians from Briala, the rebellious elf. And then that unknown character killed Felassan. Nobody is sure if that mysterious master killed him in the Fade or in real life.

 

One theory is that Felassan might have become Tranquil if he was killed in the Fade. But what if his "dead" was an allegory of possession and became a meat puppet for his master or some demonic servant? That opens many possibilities, including to provide the Big Bad with a visible agent, a Dragon to do their bidding in the material world. You know, like Saren in ME.

 

But of course, that's assuming that the elf in question is Felassan. I'm sure there are more Dalish mages elsewhere. It would be like reading the Calling and expecting every elven mage to be Fiona.