So could it be possible he exploited Loghain's fear and paranoia over Orlais to cause the Civil war?
Yeah, just whispered things into his ear. because its not like any of these character were out of character, just a more extreme version of their character. like think about when how reasonable logain was once he lost, but how violent and angry he gets at times, but once he is a warden or about to die, he completely becomes calm and stops acting like a mad dog.
Yeah, just whispered things into his ear. because its not like any of these character were out of character, just a more extreme version of their character. like think about when how reasonable logain was once he lost, but how violent and angry he gets at times, but once he is a warden or about to die, he completely becomes calm and stops acting like a mad dog.
Yeah it couldn't be too obvious it was an outside source whispering thoughts into his head. But then I must ask the question of what would the Elder One have to gain from messing with Loghain if this were to be true.
Yeah it couldn't be too obvious it was an outside source whispering thoughts into his head.
I just think he has been whispering in the fade, making their feelings become much more extreme, he isn't controlling a whole army, just making one angry and letting humans act like humans and cause most of the problems them self, like i really doubt he had much to do about Orlais, just told a few noble in their sleep how not to trust celene and they should have their old province back.
its a strech and i make half-cocked theories. But what flemeth is the elder ones good side in a sense. We know she morally dubious arguably epitome of dragon age so what if she s the mistakeSo could it be possible he exploited Loghain's fear and paranoia over Orlais to cause the Civil war?
its a strech and i make half-cocked theories. But what flemeth is the elder ones good side in a sense. We know she morally dubious arguably epitome of dragon age so what if she s the mistake
I dont think she is the Elder one, just is consumed by a very powerful demon, maybe The Formless One. but she isn't the kind who really acts egotistical, if anything she tells people not to be, and how you should never judge someone how they look unless you want to be disappointed, i mean we know she has a plan, i just dont think its destroying the veil, but there might be something there she wants. like in every game she has wanted something to further her goal, powerful body and old god baby, to be brought to kirkwall.
Also i really think one of her soul or maybe the one that went north from kirkwall, was in the body of yavana. like she is in the area, but doesn't visit her daughter?
Thats why i said good side she works against the EO to a extent he threatens her and vice versa. Heck she may even be a outside observer almost a guardian of the world but doesnt directly involve herserself just moves through pawns to keep the world... stable
Little bit of Order...and a little bit of chaos to keep things balanced.
Little bit of Order...and a little bit of chaos to keep things balanced.
Ok lets jump with that flemeth theory of her and the elder one balancing eachother, and lets just assume the elder one caused all the civil wars in the dragon age. does that mean she put the warden on that path to throw a wrench in the elders one plan instead of actually wanting the warden to unite ferelden.
Thats why i said good side she works against the EO to a extent he threatens her and vice versa. Heck she may even be a outside observer almost a guardian of the world but doesnt directly involve herserself just moves through pawns to keep the world... stable
I'm sorry monkey i misread.
yin and yang from a westerner interpetation yesLittle bit of Order...and a little bit of chaos to keep things balanced.
no probs i speak engilsh as a native language but maker help me if i use proper grammer lolI'm sorry monkey i misread.
yes cause a blight is one thing. Alien to spirits and demons adding a civil war just makes things more chaotic and a threat to balanceOk lets jump with that flemeth theory of her and the elder one balancing eachother, and lets just assume the elder one caused all the civil wars in the dragon age. does that mean she put the warden on that path to throw a wrench in the elders one plan instead of actually wanting the warden to unite ferelden.
yes cause a blight is one thing. Alien to spirits and demons adding a civil war just makes things more chaotic and a threat to balance
No but think about it. if we assume the elder one has been pushing people to cause this chaos to make his arrival easier. wouldn't she send a warden to make the country strong? a champion to stop disgruntle qunari and head strong templars or mage's?
yes cause a blight is one thing. Alien to spirits and demons adding a civil war just makes things more chaotic and a threat to balance
Why not the Blight? We know the was Cause was the Architect screwing up, but what it Elder One allowed him to have the idea that would allow him to free the Darkspawn of the taint. Because The Elder One knew what the end result would be if he were to try to use the process on the Archdemon thus ushering in the blight.
Creates chaos but at the same time brings balances right? Thats genius kieran
She has said many times a storm is coming, she knows the elder one is coming, and is forcefully trying to resist him, she might not care for the world, but she is not friendly with the elder one. i mean she knows the blight will end. why care if it ends in orlais or ferelden? but ending in ferelden makes thedas less weak to the elder one's eventual attack.
But with the elves rebelling and orlais having a civil war at the same time the MT war.... my maker ive been blind. This monster is just a blasted anarchist(loose definition) maddness
I suppose so. I think he is trying to weaken Thedas mostly so they can't win.
But with the elves rebelling and orlais having a civil war at the same time the MT war.... my maker ive been blind. This monster is just a blasted anarchist(loose definition) maddness
Thats why i think its fen'harel. In that story i told you he didn't control the emotions of the two gods, just told one where a weak spot in this used the god who was standing own emotions against him until he was stabbed from behind. he doesn't control people, he just pushes them to use extreme action to reach their goal
and it becomes chaos so he can get what he wants. he didn't force the gods into the heaven or the abyss just made the fear an attack. and bam, they were locked away.
Now that I think about it Flemeth DOES bring some order in Thedas. Assuming it was one of Flemeths incarnation she set forth Calenhad to drink dragon blood thus creating Ferelden. Then theres her saving Maric, thus ending Orlesian occupation. We also know the effects of her saving the warden and Hawke
If Corypheus has the same power as an Archdemon, why doesn't the Warden he hops into explode upon receiving his soul?
As a quick recap, the only options I see are:
- Arlathan is underground, just as the leyend says. Impossible if the concept art is indeed Arlathan.
- Arlathan was moved to some other world, somehow. It could be the Fade or somewhere beyond the Eluvians.
- Arlathan sunk, but underwater, and was concealed somehow. That would explain the city emerging from a lake in the concept art.
XD haha. well i dont plan on stopping, but if you read any thoery i give, i always stick to my guns about Fen'Harel. i mean the madness of red lyrium even is Fen'Harel M.O
How is Red Lyrium his MO? Fen'Harel seems far more subtle than that. He achieves his goals with lies and subterfuge, not with madness and corruption. If anything, this seems like a Forgotten Ones kind of MO.
We know almost nothing of the about the forgotten ones. and yes it is his M.O, pushing people to the extreme of there hatred. red lyrium isn't madness, its just the extreme of there character, bartrand became obsessed people would steal from him, while Meredith Became so disgusted and fearful of the Mage's. like i just spoke of yesterday. He makes some blind by there emotion that they dont see him coming, he did this with the creators and the Forgotten Ones, by making them so blind with what they wanted. the Creators wanted peace, and the Forgotten Ones wanted victory.
And we have heard him mess with emotions before making them to the extreme, or close to blind rage. We see that in the TME in the story about the tree, after he tell andaris he owes his victory to Fen'Harel. and that made him so angry that all he could do is yell at Fen'Harel so he didn't see Andrull coming up from behind him to mortally wound him. and then Fen'Harel got what he wanted. he was able to escape.
And don't you think all these conflicts seem like his action? Whispering to Loghain making him paranoid and Blind with anger, but once he lost to the warden he becomes completely reasonable and knows what he needs to do. I mean if you want to read more about my idea how the elder one is gently pushing people in the direction he wants. page 26 and 27 should have a discussion about it.
Edit:I will say, that madness is the incorrect word i should have used during that discussion, because i dont see red lyrium as madness. just pushes you to an extreme emotion. I apologize for that.
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