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So I am to understand that this Felassan died at the end of TME and something is just using his body to do something then?

 

Just listen to everything mistic said because i would have said the same thing. the only difference is through out the story Felassan is telling stories of Fen'Harel to Briala and that's why people think when Felassan tells this creature in the fade "She reminds me of..." people think he was talking to Fen'Harel and i happen to agree.



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So now have 4 theories maybe 5

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Some type of Old God or Spirit. 



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Arent old gods dragons, hell of a time to not be tainted and to wake up

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Arent old gods dragons, hell of a time to not be tainted and to wake up

 

Weren't the Old gods just very smart Dragons? Think this goes beyond them just a bit.



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Weren't the Old gods just very smart Dragons? Think this goes beyond them just a bit.

They supposedly taught blood magic to the Magister, and they are locked away in the mortal world.


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Weren't the Old gods just very smart Dragons? Think this goes beyond them just a bit.


I don't think we know enough to say what exactly the Old Gods are.

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If you believe the tevinters they had the ability to talk with dreamers and taught them blood magic. But modern theory holds they were taught by the arlathen elves. My thought is that they are the apex of apex dragons. But given current situation that thought is moot

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Just listen to everything mistic said because i would have said the same thing. the only difference is through out the story Felassan is telling stories of Fen'Harel to Briala and that's why people think when Felassan tells this creature in the fade "She reminds me of..." people think he was talking to Fen'Harel and i happen to agree.

 

Interestingly, though, I always thought that every time he was talking about Fen'Harel, he was talking about himself. The one who betrays both sides, who teaches hard lessons and that helps... in his own way.


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"Who would stand to gain the most from the Fade becoming one with Thedas?" is the question we should be asking ourselves.

 

In my opinion, a dreamer would gain the most. Probably an ancient one. A dreamer can manipulate the Fade to his or her will, so the Fade and Thedas becoming one would enable a dreamer to manipulate all of reality.

 

This might explain why

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was murdered in The Masked Empire, in order to remove the "competition".

 

That particular character seems to have been a very powerful and aged individual, if I'm not mistaken.

 

I don't think the Elder One is Solas, though.



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Interestingly, though, I always thought that every time he was talking about Fen'Harel, he was talking about himself. The one who betrays both sides, who teaches hard lessons and that helps... in his own way.

I mean you can infer that who ever this creature is, they have spoken many of times. but if this creature was his teacher, or his master, calling him the slow arrow, show that he must have a connection with Fen'Harel. they're just too many hints for Fen'Harel not to be a part of inquisition.


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I mean you can infer that who ever this creature is, they have spoken many of times. but if this creature was his teacher, or his master, calling him the slow arrow, show that he must have a connection with Fen'Harel. they're just too many hints for Fen'Harel not to be a part of inquisition.

 

It could be a red herring. Perhaps that "Fen'harel" isn't the actual Fen'harel.


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"Who would stand to gain the most from the Fade becoming one with Thedas?" is the question we should be asking ourselves.

 

In my opinion, a dreamer would gain the most. Probably an ancient one. A dreamer can manipulate the Fade to his or her will, so the Fade and Thedas becoming one would enable a dreamer to manipulate all of reality.

 

This might explain why

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was murdered in The Masked Empire, in order to remove the "competition".

 

That particular character seems to have been a very powerful and aged individual, if I'm not mistaken.

 

I don't think the Elder One is Solas, though.

Ok i just came up with a theory. ok listen to me here this is far fetched but hold on.

 

So Felassan is a dreamer. and we can all agree he was either killed(or something close) in or out of the fade. and we learned in DA2 that demons wanted to posses a Dreamer because they could manipulate the fade and become incredibly powerful. what if Fen'harel, or who ever it was at the end, took control of Felassan so he could manipulate the demons in the fade to obey his command and attack the human world instead of just rushing out of the breach and going where ever they wanted.

 

I mean people keep asking what would Fen'Harel want though? He locked the Gods away in the legend so he come roam around freely, it seems in his character to take control of a dreamer, and through concept art we know we might have to go to apart of Arlathans, and then we see this elf in the trailer (somewhere that kinda looks like where the concept are was drawn) bringing something out of the water, and we know that big bad at the end of TME wanted the eluvian network.

 

I know this is completely far fetched but it just bounced into my head.



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It could be a red herring. Perhaps that "Fen'harel" isn't the actual Fen'harel.

That is very true.



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I mean you can infer that who ever this creature is, they have spoken many of times. but if this creature was his teacher, or his master, calling him the slow arrow, show that he must have a connection with Fen'Harel. they're just too many hints for Fen'Harel not to be a part of inquisition.

 

I'm not so sure. There were hints in TME, true, but they could be adscribed to Felassan alone, the same as Gaspard is compared to a lion several times. For example, Asunder is also part of DA:I's build up and Fen'Harel or something similar wasn't hinted even once, instead preferring to talk about a conspiracy in which templars and mages should have taken part in one way or another.

 

Once Last Flight is published, I'm sure many people will start "finding" the Big Bad in DA:I among hidden references in its pages, and of course it will be connected to the Grey Wardens. So I'm not placing my bets on just one book.

 

And then there's the Enemy of Thedas trailer. Whoever that Elder One is, it seems really interested in mocking the Maker and being worshipped as a god.


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Ok i just came up with a theory. ok listen to me here this is far fetched but hold on. So Felassan is a dreamer. and we can all agree he was either killed(or something close) in or out of the fade. and we learned in DA2 that demons wanted to posses a Dreamer because they could manipulate the fade and become incredibly powerful. what if Fen'harel, or who ever it was at the end, took control of Felassan so he could manipulate the demons in the fade to obey his command and attack the human world instead of just rushing out of the breach and going where ever they wanted. I mean people keep asking what would Fen'Harel want though? He locked the Gods away in the legend so he come roam around freely, it seems in his character to take control of a dreamer, and through concept art we know we might have to go to apart of Arlathans, and then we see this elf in the trailer (somewhere that kinda looks like where the concept are was drawn) bringing something out of the water, and we know that big bad at the end of TME wanted the eluvian network. I know this is completely far fetched but it just bounced into my head.

its not too far off at this point its plausible.

I'm not so sure. There were hints in TME, true, but they could be adscribed to Felassan alone, the same as Gaspard is compared to a lion several times. For example, Asunder is also part of DA:I's build up and Fen'Harel or something similar wasn't hinted even once, instead preferring to talk about a conspiracy in which templars and mages should have taken part in one way or another. Once Last Flight is published, I'm sure many people will start "finding" the Big Bad in DA:I among hidden references in its pages, and of course it will be connected to the Grey Wardens. So I'm not placing my bets on just one book. And then there's the Enemy of Thedas trailer. Whoever that Elder One is, it seems really interested in mocking the Maker and being worshipped as a god.

whatever this elder one is he's definatly extremly patient

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I'm not so sure. There were hints in TME, true, but they could be adscribed to Felassan alone, the same as Gaspard is compared to a lion several times. For example, Asunder is also part of DA:I's build up and Fen'Harel or something similar wasn't hinted even once, instead preferring to talk about a conspiracy in which templars and mages should have taken part in one way or another.

 

Once Last Flight is published, I'm sure many people will start "finding" the Big Bad in DA:I among hidden references in its pages, and of course it will be connected to the Grey Wardens. So I'm not placing my bets on just one book.

 

And then there's the Enemy of Thedas trailer. Whoever that Elder One is, it seems really interested in mocking the Maker and being worshipped as a god.

Well each of the books has something to do about different things. its kinda getting us ready to know the set up to most of the major plot points in the game, the civil war, the mage templar war, and im guessing there will be some hidden things about Corypheus in last flight. but each are about different things. so i doubt they would have repeating characters, like im pretty sure leliana is the only one who crossed asunder and masked empire.


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After watching trailers, assume its a dragon.

 

Man I hope it's not a dragon. We already have dragon bad guys, this needs to be something else.


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the formless one or forgotten one by his main name (formless is a way for me to rember him part joke and forgetfullness) is a anchient demon similar to gaxkang and xexbex(disire demon from tahrone's quest) and ismael is also a powerful spirit of choice (as he claims) but popular theory is that he's also a forgotten one

 

I don't know about the Formless One.

 

The very sobriquet of "Formless One" suggests that this particularly entity has no "true" form to speak of. It's also possible that this might infer that it's a shapeshifter and thus constantly is without a consistent form from one encounter to the next.

 

We've already encountered someone who's a powerful shapeshifter, describes bodies as "limiting things", is capable of exisiting in multiple places at once and who's described as being neither a demon, human or abomination. My personal suspicion is that the Formless One is probably Flemeth.

 

As for the Elder One, I don't really have any idea what he is. While TME gave us a lot of hints about the Forgotten Ones, part of me wonders if it was just a red herring to throw us off who/what the Elder One really is?


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I don't know about the Formless OneThe very sobriquet of "Formless One" suggests that this particularly entity has no "true" form to speak of. It's also possible that this might infer that it's a shapeshifter and thus constantly is without a consistent form from one encounter to the next. We've already encountered someone who's a powerful shapeshifter, describes bodies as "limiting things", is capable of exisiting in multiple places at once and who's described as being neither a demon, human or abomination. My personal suspicion is that the Formless One is probably Flemeth. As for the Elder One, I don't really have any idea what he is. While TME gave us a lot of hints about the Forgotten Ones, part of me wonders if it was just a red herring to throw us off who/what the Elder One really is?

thats poular theory on what flemeth is and not all wrong(probably) and red herring often have a bit of truth

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From the sound of it, the Elder One is my mother-in-law.


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From the sound of it, the Elder One is my mother-in-law.

that bad? Huh

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I like to think The Elder one is the Maker's evil counterpart. Basically the Satan of the DA world



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That could confirm the maker and they wish him to ambiguous. Wouldn't suprise me

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that bad? Huh

Not really, but I wanted to make the stereotypical statement. ;)

 

I like to think The Elder one is the Maker's evil counterpart. Basically the Satan of the DA world

This would be my best guess. The Yang to the Makers Ying.