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I was reading Until We Sleep. The main viallian said, to paraphrase "The magisters were so close! They needed blood of Great Dragons, bla bla, I now have power of the gods!.....shape reality to what I want....Fade is magic!"He was also using a device that Tevinter dreamers use to control minds of others.I'm do believe that at the very least the Elder One has a lacky that wants god like abilities. Maybe he's the one we hear speaking in the trailer? Maybe the elder gets unleashed near the end, or never.Also, Lamberts friend was a magister that wanted to reform Tevinter and the black chantry. As soon as he was MADE the next (current) archon he became corrupt. It definitely seems someone is atleast controlling the minds of others.

this give points to a dreamer is behind or is abedding. But we know little of dreamers aside they can affect reality

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So according to the DA wiki it's Alexius who says "You are are a mistake, you should never have existed", in the enemy of Thedas trailer. 



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So according to the DA wiki it's Alexius who says "You are are a mistake, you should never have existed", in the enemy of Thedas trailer. 

Doesn't he say that in the demo? can you link me to the page?



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I also would like a link

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Also i have to say its amazing to me that the whole Fallow Mire area in the Gamescon/Pax Prime (I am so mad i moved away from Seattle) demo was just for side quests. well maybe there was a story mission there but of what we saw it was all side questing



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Went to e3 instead couldnt afford pax

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Doesn't he say that in the demo? can you link me to the page?

http://dragonage.wik...om/wiki/Alexius

 

I think so, I could never hear it properly.



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Well sod this opens new ideas... so evil his own followers want break away

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Went to e3 instead couldnt afford pax

Couldn't afford go to E3 or Pax, not to mention if I could I would have to fly and I'm scared of flying.

 

I say leave flying to the birds *kisses the ground*.



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Well sod this opens new ideas... so evil his own followers want break away

I get the feeling Alexius didn't have much choice in serving the Elder One.



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I live california so its only a 2hr drive shame bro. Booth babes!!

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I wonder why he calls himself and dorian a failure? Both were reformers against Tevinter status quo. Maybe that's it? He knew the elder one was gonna come and tried his best to stop it but failed miserably.

Everything was meaningless so he decided to join the elder ones crew for....reasons?

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I live california so its only a 2hr drive shame bro. Booth babes!!

I live in Europe so it's either flying or swimming if I want to go to USA.



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I wonder why he calls himself and dorian a failure? Both were reformers against Tevinter status quo. Maybe that's it? He knew the elder one was gonna come and tried his best to stop it but failed miserably.

Everything was meaningless so he decided to join the elder ones crew for....reasons?

The main reason why he join the Elder One is because of his son Felix who, if you have watched the Redcliff demo, is far from looking good.



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I live in Europe so it's either flying or swimming if I want to go to USA.

dad once took me on a navy boat once during a summer bootcamp for family... vomited horribly. Funny thing we never left port lol.

I wonder why he calls himself and dorian a failure? Both were reformers against Tevinter status quo. Maybe that's it? He knew the elder one was gonna come and tried his best to stop it but failed miserably.Everything was meaningless so he decided to join the elder ones crew for....reasons?

man the more good magi do in tbis universe bad always follows.

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dad once took me on a navy boat once during a summer bootcamp for family... vomited horribly. Funny thing we never left port lol.

Not everyone belong on a ship.

 

 

man the more good magi do in tbis universe bad always follows.

That's human nature for you.



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Not everyone belong on a ship.  That's human nature for you.

and to think i wanted be a fisherman when i was a lad lol.

Humans are just odd

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Yeah, I forgot Felix was in a weird limbo state of undead. In the Comic it was said there was a Tevinter magister that could use the fade to graph flesh anew but was exiled to the Anderfels.

I know he and Dorian made a pendant that may help opening or closing veils. Or that pendant is similar to Flemeths?

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Yeah, I forgot Felix was in a weird limbo state of undead. In the Comic it was said there was a Tevinter magister that could use the fade to graph flesh anew but was exiled to the Anderfels.I know he and Dorian made a pendant that may help opening or closing veils. Or that pendant is similar to Flemeths?

i think its different since they were using it to close something. But good catch mya

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Yeah, I forgot Felix was in a weird limbo state of undead. In the Comic it was said there was a Tevinter magister that could use the fade to graph flesh anew but was exiled to the Anderfels.

I know he and Dorian made a pendant that may help opening or closing veils. Or that pendant is similar to Flemeths?

i think its different since they were using it to close something. But good catch mya

No we might have something here. how did flemeth return to the world? was it just in the amulet or was that soul in the fade so she could get out? if so that would explain how during the redcliff demo they are physically in the fade.

 

Ill admit it was a stretch, but i just don't see how we can physically be in the fade, because just the event at the begining of the game with the inquisitor is supposed to be incredibly hard to happen.



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Quote stuff

Btw TTTX there is a Demo on the dragon age youtube page with minimum talking and small clips of mike laidlaw talking, but not over any conversation. 



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No we might have something here. how did flemeth return to the world? was it just in the amulet or was that soul in the fade so she could get out? if so that would explain how during the redcliff demo they are physically in the fade. Ill admit it was a stretch, but i just don't see how we can physically be in the fade, because just the event at the begining of the game with the inquisitor is supposed to be incredibly hard to happen.

possibly.. but this makes me remember somthing.
Inq: the chaos has left its mark upon me.
This maybe related to the amulet. He amulutvmight act as a focus

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Quick question, i'm watching the E3 demo again, and so Alexius never says The elder one is keeping Felix alive, he just says "he would have died, Dorian. i saved him." than during the fight Alexius causes some kind of tear within the fade for demons to come out of, this might just be a game mechanic but its still curious.

 

But here is what is more curious he says during the fight. the elder one comes to kill us both.



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Quick question, i'm watching the E3 demo again, and so Alexius never says The elder one is keeping Felix alive, he just says "he would have died, Dorian. i saved him." than during the fight Alexius causes some kind of tear within the fade for demons to come out of, this might just be a game mechanic but its still curious. But here is what is more curious he says during the fight. the elder one comes to kill us both.

it appears he betrayed the elder one. And its probaby a ability the elder one gives. Most magic can be taught

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Possible he had change of heart once he saw Felix condition. Alexius looks and sounds like a man that lost everything and is desperate. Being a magister perhaps he joined the venatori in order to save/revive his son.

Obviously he didn't turn out right. They said that who we choose could affect the consequences. Lelianna killed Felix, thus promting a battle. If we do something different then maybe we could choose a diplomatic way as to not get Alexium battle?

Don't quote me, but when they were doing that thing with the amulet Dorian says it'll take longer since Alexius is dead.