Yeah that I can hear, but I can't hear him say it in the gameplay demo.
probably from an earlier scene. when the inquisitor is speaking to Alexius it seems as if they already know of each other. like they are already acquainted from probably an earlier fight or escape.
So for the three wars, who did The Elder One Manipulate?
Loghain for one preying on his fears and paranoia of Orlais. Because killing your best friends son is bonkers.
So for the three wars, who did The Elder One Manipulate?
Loghain for one preying on his fears and paranoia of Orlais. Because killing your best friends son is bonkers.
I would assume the Elves of Halamshiral and Duke Remache did have a big change of character near the end TME from someone who doesn't like combat to viciously trying to kill Celene. and if you remember, he would constantly say he was in love with her. but at the end he was just brutal to her.
With the mage's and templars, i would assume he spoke a bit to orsino. just to make him scared to turn to blood magic. and Lambant was very extreme with his feelings and was breaking many of the own rules of the templars and seekers. or when he was hunting down Rhys and Cole after they get out.
I certainly hope he hasn't been planning and maniputing for over 1300 yrs. I always hated villains like that....but then again 1300+ yrs is nothing for an immortal in the Fade. Also we got Mass Effect reapers, so it isnt THAT farfetched.
Yeah but the Reapers just kinda stayed out beyond the galaxy and then show up every 50 thousand years. they didn't do that much manipulation except leave super advance technology for lesser species to find so they could eventually get to the citadel. and the only other contact they would have is when they would occasionally snatch up species for study like they did with the collectors.
I just don't want to hear that the elder one has been manipulating everything in the world for just this one moment. ugh. thats just meh. "so everything in everygame and every bit of lore has been controlled by you? wow that takes the fun out of those legends." I just feel like thats too much. how did he have to manipulate 1300 years just to cause 3 civil wars? i really doubt that.
i just hope we dont get the backlash... left cause it got so badIts been a while, but I do recall the last few protheans were able to seal off the beacon, preventing/delaying Reaper invasion via that method.Then they were also responsible in manipulting the Rachni which caused the Rachni wars while still sealed off. Then there's the manipulation of Saren +Illusive man.They just better not go this route. I'm fine if he's been doing it for a few centuries, but I hope he isn't the root of all evil
i just hope we dont get the backlash... left cause it got so bad
the fact they did that with mass effect i dont think the writer would pretty much copy the antagonist. because someone there would be like "yo that kinda sounds like mass effect" and i dont think they really want fans and reviewers to say its just a fantasy version of the reapers.
Lets pray they are right. I like the ending dont wanna feel ashamed of that
I really hope I never get to see such an ending like ME3 ever again, it wasn't a bad ending (Deus Ex Machina human revolution had the exact same endings just less futuristic), it was just not an ending that fit the ME universe and it was that reason it sucked among other things like the poor execution plot holes and such.
I just had to say it in order to get it out of my system.
the fact they did that with mass effect i dont think the writer would pretty much copy the antagonist. because someone there would be like "yo that kinda sounds like mass effect" and i dont think they really want fans and reviewers to say its just a fantasy version of the reapers.
The reapers had manipulated the galaxy for a billion years (I find that somewhat unbelievable, but it's scifi, so I let it fly.), the Elder one 1300 years at best.
I really hope I never get to see such an ending like ME3 ever again, it wasn't a bad ending (Deus Ex Machina human revolution had the exact same endings just less futuristic), it was just not an ending that fit the ME universe and it was that reason it sucked among other things like the poor execution plot holes and such.
I just had to say it in order to get it out of my system.
The reapers had manipulated the galaxy for a billion years (I find that somewhat unbelievable, but it's scifi, so I let it fly.), the Elder one 1300 years at best.
They didn't directly manipulate the galaxy until they came back to the galaxy. but otherwise they just left stuff laying around and let the galaxy do what they want.
I'm okay with the Elder One being behind everything in Dragon Age 2 and Inquisition.
Nothing in Origins needs to be explained.
But why wait that long to sunder the viel
Waiting for the right conditions to arrive.
They didn't directly manipulate the galaxy until they came back to the galaxy. but otherwise they just left stuff laying around and let the galaxy do what they want.
aside from the occasional indoctrinated individuals to cause chaos in the galaxy when they arrived.
I'm okay with the Elder One being behind everything in Dragon Age 2 and Inquisition.
Nothing in Origins needs to be explained.
I can see the Elder One causing the blight through Architect in order to cause the events in DA2 and DA:I.
I can see the Elder One causing the blight through Architect in order to cause the events in DA2 and DA:I.
Maybe but that seems kind of a round about way to do things.
After all, the Blight didn't need explaining.
But the Architect did it.
And now the Architect doesn't need explaining.
But the Elder One did it.
Maybe but that seems kind of a round about way to do things.
After all, the Blight didn't need explaining.
But the Architect did it.
And now the Architect doesn't need explaining.
But the Elder One did it.
Maybe, maybe not.
The Elder one might not have had much choice in how he could change the events that would lead to his escape, hell it might have been a lot of trail and error before he finally found a plan that would work.
Waiting for the right conditions to arrive.
aside from the occasional indoctrinated individuals to cause chaos in the galaxy when they arrived.
I can see the Elder One causing the blight through Architect in order to cause the events in DA2 and DA:I.
But that wasn't until they were going to enter the galaxy and sovereign was attempting to activate the citadel.
But that wasn't until they were going to enter the galaxy and sovereign was attempting to activate the citadel.
They may not have directly manipulated the Galaxy, but the Galaxy would have been very different place if they haven't left the relays and the citadel. As Sovereign said you develop along the lines we want you to or something like that.
that would make sense. Most magic requires years of practice so the stronger the spell the more timeMaybe, maybe not. The Elder one might not have had much choice in how he could change the events that would lead to his escape, hell it might have been a lot of trail and error before he finally found a plan that would work.
They may not have directly manipulated the Galaxy, but the Galaxy would have been very different place if they haven't left the relays and the citadel. As Sovereign said you develop along the lines we want you to or something like that.
Yes but that is very minimal manipulation. just because you gave some one technology doesn't mean you are manipulating there culture or personality. just what technology they are using because they are lazy. they didn't manipulate the turians and humans to fight. or anything like that. they just would appear through the citadel and over power every planet with shear force and use indoctrinated spies to find where more people were, or to stop secret plans, that isn't manipulation.
Yeah, I believe certain conditions (and plot points) must be met. Then there's also a possibility that there are others (chantry seekers, etc) that are nipping his plans at the bud.
I know seeker order is has dwindled in the past century and more.
Yeah i believe he is just talking to certian people in their dreams and making them act on extreme emotions. so just extreme versions of their character. but that changes when he can actually start making a direct attack, with tears, demons, and venatori armies. until than he we just pushing people to what he wanted. not manipulating every conflict. or its outcome.
I will be surprised if the Elder One turns out to be half as ancient as some suspect, i figure he is a bit more modern.
Maybe even a living thing.
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