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#1276
Kieran G.

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The Maker shall slay the False Elvish God!

Fen'harael: *incoherent crazy* I WILL NOT BE BEATEN IN THE NAME OF A FICTICIOUS DEITY WHEN I AM A REAL ONE! *dies*
 

You do know i'm pro andraste right? XD i just think the elven pantheon has merit but is wrong. and since they are the first to create legends on thedas, they are the oldest and might hold the most truth about ancient times.



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Wasn't he mention in the stolen throne when they were in Gwaren?

i dont remember honestly sorry.

#1278
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i dont remember honestly sorry.

And i can't say for the calling, it was better than Prince. but i got kinda tired of the conversation in the deep roads. i almost had the same problem with TME when they are traveling though the Eluvians and then the different stations to new Eluvians.



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You do know i'm pro andraste right? XD i just think the elven pantheon has merit but is wrong. and since they are the first to create legends on thedas, they are the oldest and might hold the most truth about ancient times.

I know, I was just remembering 8-bit's Sarda and how he died.

"I WILL NOT BE DEFEATED BY AMATEUR HOUR HORSE**** LIKE ABSORBING TOO MUCH POWER--" *explodes*



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And i can't say for the calling, it was better than Prince. but i got kinda tired of the conversation in the deep roads. i almost had the same problem with TME when they are traveling though the Eluvians and then the different stations to new Eluvians.

definatly not mentioned believe me it was a fun book but im not gonna read it again.... photographic memory*taps temple of head Confidently*

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definatly not mentioned believe me it was a fun book but im not gonna read it again.... photographic memory*taps temple of head Confidently*

Also Briala is going to cause enough hatred for her people because she hasn't thought out the ramification at all.

 

I doubt the common man is going to hate them more because a elven creature also came out at the same time. and how many peasants would know who the elder one is anyway? do you think they know urthemial name during the fifth blight, or even after the battle of denerim?



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Also Briala is going to cause enough hatred for her people because she hasn't thought out the ramification at all.

People hate elves standing up for themselves.

I can't say I care for the alternative, though.



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I was refering to fans. Starting see why gaider called toxic lol. But really what would her ramifications be curious...

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I was refering to fans. Starting see why gaider called toxic lol. But really what would her ramifications be curious...

 

I see it as pretty obvious.

Either the Inquisitor helps her revolution succeed.

OR

 

If they don't, then nature takes its course and thousands upon thousands of elves die.



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People hate elves standing up for themselves.

I can't say I care for the alternative, though.

No they will do a lot more than hate elves, with what she is saying she will do. she will destroy the economy of every nation. a giant working class will just disappear. this will make them weak but this will also make everyone desperate. and the common people will know who to blame. the elves who left. the hatred would be at its very peak. even the dwarven kingdom would want the elves back in alienate because their own economies would hurt because the surface would ask for more money for the furs and other goods coming into the dwarven kingdoms, and less dwarven goods would be bought from surface nations because they couldn't afford it.

 

And who would trade with the elves or give them supplies? what could they make on the fly to start getting supplies as is.

 

And even if the inquisitor helps the elves. this hate would still happen. and lets say the Inquisition helps the elves. the people of the human nations would demand the inquisition help them instead, that they need the food, or supplies. and if they say no. the Inquisition will quickly lose allies. make the common person would demand it. or they will lose troops. lose more workers, more support. 

 

Edit: this would all be after the events of the revolution.



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I see it as pretty obvious.Either the Inquisitor helps her revolution succeed.OR If they don't, then nature takes its course and thousands upon thousands of elves die.

for a game that has faith as a theme... its getting dark and i like what law and order svu on a daily basis

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Okay so if he had nothing to do with the Darkspawn but did see the Blight coming so began to poison Loghain's mind. But what about Fereldan's War for independence? Think that was done to weaken Orlais and leave Fereldan weaker so it couldn't get the help of Orlais's Armies for the Blight? Divide and conquer sort of thing



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Okay so if he had nothing to do with the Darkspawn but did see the Blight coming so began to poison Loghain's mind. But what about Fereldan's War for independence? Think that was done to weaken Orlais and leave Fereldan weaker so it couldn't get the help of Orlais's Armies for the Blight? Divide and conquer sort of thing

I think the problem with that sort of logic is it requires a reason for Orlais to be conquering brutal dictators.



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Okay so if he had nothing to do with the Darkspawn but did see the Blight coming so began to poison Loghain's mind. But what about Fereldan's War for independence? Think that was done to weaken Orlais and leave Fereldan weaker so it couldn't get the help of Orlais's Armies for the Blight? Divide and conquer sort of thing

I dont think his hand was in that. if we are right about flemeth directly putting peoples on paths to limit the chaos. we know she is a seer of sort. so wouldn't she know her advice would help ferelden?



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Okay so if he had nothing to do with the Darkspawn but did see the Blight coming so began to poison Loghain's mind. But what about Fereldan's War for independence? Think that was done to weaken Orlais and leave Fereldan weaker so it couldn't get the help of Orlais's Armies for the Blight? Divide and conquer sort of thing

still not sold on this... but its possible he gets off playing god by creating large conflicts

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I dont think his hand was in that. if we are right about flemeth directly putting peoples on paths to limit the chaos. we know she is a seer of sort. so wouldn't she know her advice would help ferelden?

 

That's just Felemeth;s way. She never gives clear answers. I think the reason she leave us to figure out the rest is if she was straight forward The Elder One may catch on that we are getting help since we know what to do exactly.



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That's just Felemeth;s way. She never gives clear answers. I think the reason she leave us to figure out the rest is if she was straight forward The Elder One may catch on that we are getting help since we know what to do exactly.

at this point i wouldnt be suprised that flemeth is a outside observer bit elder one is tired of observing and whats to be a god

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That's just Felemeth;s way. She never gives clear answers. I think the reason she leave us to figure out the rest is if she was straight forward The Elder One may catch on that we are getting help since we know what to do exactly.

Yeah. so maybe he wanted a bloody revolution. or maybe he didn't. and wanted the blight to hit Ferelden while under occupation idk. but flemeth has been working for some time. and i really wonder if she can see glimpse of the future.



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Another thing that confuses me...If Sandal's Prophecy does indeed refer to The Elder One. how the hell does Sandal know this stuff? Did Flemeth tell him? Can he see the future? That little weirdo perplexes me!



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Another thing that confuses me...If Sandal's Prophecy does indeed refer to The Elder One. how the hell does Sandal know this stuff? Did Flemeth tell him? Can he see the future? That little weirdo perplexes me!

Enchantment.



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Another thing that confuses me...If Sandal's Prophecy does indeed refer to The Elder One. how the hell does Sandal know this stuff? Did Flemeth tell him? Can he see the future? That little weirdo perplexes me!

well lyrium exposure in uertoro to half-dwarves could have some magical effects. This all juet speculation my skills in eugenics and gene therapy is poor at best

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well lyrium exposure in uertoro to half-dwarves could have some magical effects. This all juet speculation my skills in eugenics and gene therapy is poor at best

 

Still that doesn't explain the other things...If it was Flemeth who talked to Sandal what kind of role does Sandal play?



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Well it was a mistake choosing a Templar to be High Seeker as is.

That's where Seekers choose from.

 

It works if you consider that the Elder One showed the Architect how to free Darkspawn from the taint from the fade. Through dreams and such mush like how assumed that is how he manipulated other people through the fade of course this required sleep. But now that the veil is torn that is not necessary. The Elder One knew that it would traint and awakens another Arch demon. Thus ushering in a Blight weakening Fereldan for his coming one player out of the way.

Could work.

 

 

And its the seekers job to hunt abominations that come from the circle. and quiet it quickly. 

Not really, that's more the Templars job. Seekers seeks out corruption in the Chantry and the Templars and take out threats that can threaten the Chantry.



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We know there are people with the gift of prophecy as with the petrified tevinter statue.

As for sandal I just hope he's a magically gifted dwarf and not have a spirit living in him...getting kinda sick of human-spirit merger per game

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We know there are people with the gift of prophecy as with the petrified tevinter statue.

As for sandal I just hope he's a magically gifted dwarf and not have a spirit living in him...getting kinda sick of human-spirit merger per game

 

Personally I'm hoping that he is the first Dwarf Mage.