I also remember in one of the other trailers there is a battle the dragon lands up on a tower and a bridge collapses and the inquisitor apparently falls down with it and holds out his hand, maybe to call the dragon to save him?
Or maybe that dragon lands on the tower with the army which is attacking the fort?
I also remember in one of the other trailers there is a battle the dragon lands up on a tower and a bridge collapses and the inquisitor apparently falls down with it and holds out his hand, maybe to call the dragon to save him?
Not all the dragons are evil and bow to the elder one. Perhaps their have freewill to choose a side?
Did anybody bring Sebastian to Flemeth？I wonder how she would react to the whole maker believes, I thought she might be the only one who can foresee this.
Well.. at least we know old gods were not been created by the Maker, so logically we could have more than just one Creator in the long long history.
Not all the dragons are evil and bow to the elder one. Perhaps their have freewill to choose a side?
Did anybody bring Sebastian to Flemeth？I wonder how she would react to the whole maker believes, I thought she might be the only one who can foresee this.
Well.. at least we know old gods were not been created by the Maker, so logically we could have more than just one Creator in the long long history.
I like to think that Dragons are smart enough to know that this effects them as well and some are willing to throw their lot in with it if not only for survival.
Not all the dragons are evil and bow to the elder one. Perhaps their have freewill to choose a side?
Did anybody bring Sebastian to Flemeth？I wonder how she would react to the whole maker believes, I thought she might be the only one who can foresee this.
Well.. at least we know old gods were not been created by the Maker, so logically we could have more than just one Creator in the long long history.
I don't think Sebastian can be bought to Felmeth since he first can be recruited in act 2.
true. Most she says is a cryptic shot at anders' conditionI don't think Sebastian can be bought to Felmeth since he first can be recruited in act 2.
Old Tevinter believed in the Old Gods, new Tevinter believe in the Maker now, officially anyway.
The Old Tevinter worshiped the Old Gods, but according to David Gaider...
The cult of the Old Gods (I don't call it "the Tevinter religion" mainly because that, to me, speaks of the Imperial Chantry -- which is based in today's Tevinter Imperium) didn't contradict the existence of the Maker. Quite the opposite. The people of ancient Tevinter were aware of the existence of the Golden City and ascribed to "the Maker" (though this Creator was not called this until the appearance of the Chantry) the creation of the world. The Old Gods were not creators, though they were supposedly also not created. The Old Gods were outside of the Creator's Plan and showed up to whisper to mankind and teach them magic. According to the Chantry, they turned mankind away from their regard for a remote Creator (who ruled remotely and never interacted with his own creations) and that this is what made the Creator abandon the Golden City... though there is argument that the cult believed the Creator had abandoned it long before and that they were adrift, rescued by the Old Gods. Modern sages say that this is attempt to explain the hardships that the early human civilizations faced, and not evidence of the Maker actually being absent.
So when Andraste showed up much, much later, she was advocating a return to the "rightful" worship of the Maker... it was not a belief that came out of nowhere.
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http://forum.bioware...uestions/page-3
The Tevinter believed in the Maker, though he was known as the Creator back then.
And they didn't worship him after they started worshiping the Old Gods, because they felt the Old Gods paid more attention to them.
Hmm
He also mentions in the rest of his post and a few others that there isn't another myth for the creation of the world, and that the Chant of Light doesn't deny the actual existence of other Gods but rather their worthiness to be worshiped as Gods.
The Dwarves don't have a religious explanation for where the world came from and neither do the Elves. The Elves say their Gods came from the world, which was always there, and the Dwarves say they spring from the Stone and don't really care if anyone made the Stone in the first place.
But I suppose the point to make here is that there only seems to be one creation myth for Thedas itself, and that myth seems to date back to before the Tevinter had an Imperium. That Myth being that the Creator of Thedas was what lived in that Golden City up there in the Fade and that he didn't really do much.
If the Tevinter still believed this, even as they worshiped and spoke with the Old Gods, and tried to invade the Golden City...
Well, that leads me to wonder what the Old Gods and the Magisters thought they were really doing with all of that.
The Old Tevinter worshiped the Old Gods, but according to David Gaider...
http://forum.bioware...uestions/page-3
The Tevinter believed in the Maker, though he was known as the Creator back then.
And they didn't worship him after they started worshiping the Old Gods, because they felt the Old Gods paid more attention to them.
Interesting, although according to Cryps the Golden city was already black by the time they arrived, so that could indicate that the Maker or creator is not the kind of god the Chantry believe he is.
Hmm
Long quote.
But this is where things start to overlap. you have the elves believing in the Creators and the Forgotten ones. Creators were locked up in the eternal city which was inside the fade and the forgotten ones locked in the abyss. then with tevinter you have them believing in the creator and the old gods. the creator who is in the golden city and the old gods who are locked in underground prisons.
I believe they might all be the same gods.
And maybe the reason he didn't do much for the tevinters was because like the legend of Fen'Harel said. the creators/creator is trapped inside the golden city(eternal city) all these things are starting to sound like carbon copies of eachother
Interesting, although according to Cryps the Golden city was already black by the time they arrived, so that could indicate that the Maker or creator is not the kind of god the Chantry believe he is.
Well, I won't admit to understanding the Fade physics of a Golden City and how it might react to an invasion, or how focused Cory was being in his speech, but yeah.
I would say that the Maker/Creator probably isn't the sort of God the Chantry believes him to be. I perceive the Maker as being responsible for the Darkspawn, and find it to be his most obvious and visible miracle we have evidence for and can directly observe.
Now, I wonder... Why are Demons so terrified of the Black City?
Well, I won't admit to understanding the Fade physics of a Golden City and how it might react to an invasion, or how focused Cory was being in his speech, but yeah.
I would say that the Maker/Creator probably isn't the sort of God the Chantry believes him to be. I perceive the Maker as being responsible for the Darkspawn, and find it to be his most obvious and visible miracle we have evidence for and can directly observe.
Now, I wonder... Why are Demons so terrified of the Black City?
I wouldn't be surprised if the Maker is some sort of Control freak and if you fall out of line he will punish you in a way you will never believe.
According to Avernus from DA:O Warden castle DLC the Taint is alien to the Demons and probably spirits too and judging by Cryp's being able to do things no other Darkspawn even an Archdemon can the taint in the black city must different then the one in the real world, maybe that taint has a mind of it's own in Fade.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Maker is some sort of Control freak and if you fall out of line he will punish you in a way you will never believe.
According to Avernus from DA:O Warden castle DLC the Taint is alien to the Demons and probably spirits too and judging by Cryp's being able to do things no other Darkspawn even an Archdemon can the taint in the black city must different then the one in the real world, maybe that taint has a mind of it's own in Fade.
I actually once had a theory that the Taint is part of the Maker's essence forced into physical existence in a way it wasn't meant to be, and it just ended up all wrong.
The Maker doesn't seem like much of a control freak if he's been most well known for sitting on his ass, and the creation myth of mortals was that they were designed to create new things and not just sing him praise like the Spirits did. The Chantry isn't really doing a good job there with that, but that's not the point.
However, whatever reaction the Golden City had to its invasion was a distinctly nasty one. The Darkspawn are a very unpleasant thing, and if that's the Maker's reaction to being disturbed or having his house broken into...
Well, I think I would avoid getting his direct attention and politely knock on his front door and wait for his response if I had to. He does not seem to be the sort of God that likes being disturbed.
like the lambant from gears of war?I wouldn't be surprised if the Maker is some sort of Control freak and if you fall out of line he will punish you in a way you will never believe. According to Avernus from DA:O Warden castle DLC the Taint is alien to the Demons and probably spirits too and judging by Cryp's being able to do things no other Darkspawn even an Archdemon can the taint in the black city must different then the one in the real world, maybe that taint has a mind of it's own in Fade.
Oh, and if I were to express another theory, I've often considered that the Maker and the Golden City might actually be the same thing, and that the Maker itself isn't so anthropomorphic.
If that's the case, the Maker never left the Golden City when it turned Black, but actually blackened alongside or as the city did.
The Maker himself might be corrupted at this point in time, though it might be possible to call upon some aspect of him that isn't quite so twisted as the rest.
I actually once had a theory that the Taint is part of the Maker's essence forced into physical existence in a way it wasn't meant to be, and it just ended up all wrong.
The Maker doesn't seem like much of a control freak if he's been most well known for sitting on his ass, and the creation myth of mortals was that they were designed to create new things and not just sing him praise like the Spirits did. The Chantry isn't really doing a good job there with that, but that's not the point.
However, whatever reaction the Golden City had to its invasion was a distinctly nasty one. The Darkspawn are a very unpleasant thing, and if that's the Maker's reaction to being disturbed or having his house broken into...
Well, I think I would avoid getting his direct attention and politely knock on his front door and wait for his response if I had to. He does not seem to be the sort of God that likes being disturbed.
Maybe we'll find out if the devs let us.
like the lambant from gears of war?
I think so, I haven't played Gears of War so I wouldn't know.
a god thats absent but his presence is felt... hmmOh, and if I were to express another theory, I've often considered that the Maker and the Golden City might actually be the same thing, and that the Maker itself isn't so anthropomorphic. If that's the case, the Maker never left the Golden City when it turned Black, but actually blackened alongside or as the city did. The Maker himself might be corrupted at this point in time, though it might be possible to call upon some aspect of him that isn't quite so twisted as the rest.
basically a parasitic organismMaybe we'll find out if the devs let us. I think so, I haven't played Gears of War so I wouldn't know.
a god thats absent but his presence is felt... hmm
basically a parasitic organism
That's sounds very familiar.
Ahh, sounds like the Elder god from Legacy of Kain, who actually also reminds me of how the Elder one talks and acts. To bad Tony Jay is dead, he always had a good villain voice.
its been a decade remind meThat's sounds very familiar. Ahh, sounds like the Elder god from Legacy of Kain, who actually also reminds me of how the Elder one talks and acts. To bad Tony Jay is dead, he always had a good villain voice.
a god thats absent but his presence is felt... hmm
Well, it's generally been my feeling, from when I first heard of the Black City, that the story could be very wrong about the idea that the Maker ever actually left.
But would he still really be the Maker anymore? Some part of him might remember being the Maker, and maybe he might even try to be the Maker again for the right person who made him feel as if it was worth giving it another go.
In that case, it's more of a God that isn't quite the same God as he once was.
Hell, maybe that's the real reason Andraste had for spreading the Chant of Light isn't to make the Maker forgive them, though truth be told that need only came up when Andraste died and the Maker left again, but rather to help the Maker remember what he was?
its been a decade remind me
Let's see if I can remember correctly. The Elder god is giant looking squad who manipulate the very course of history in order to feed his "wheel of life" in other words his giant appetite for souls, said plainly he is a giant parasite with a god complex.
if one cut the chantry's hyperbole thats a reasonable conclusionWell, it's generally been my feeling, from when I first heard of the Black City, that the story could be very wrong about the idea that the Maker ever actually left. But would he still really be the Maker anymore? Some part of him might remember being the Maker, and maybe he might even try to be the Maker again for the right person who made him feel as if it was worth giving it another go. In that case, it's more of a God that isn't quite the same God as he once was. Hell, maybe that's the real reason Andraste had for spreading the Chant of Light isn't to make the Maker forgive them, though truth be told that need only came up when Andraste died and the Maker left again, but rather to help the Maker remember what he was?
ah now i see itLet's see if I can remember correctly. The Elder god is giant looking squad who manipulate the very course of history in order to feed his "wheel of life" in other words his giant appetite for souls, said plainly he is a giant parasite with a god complex. https://www.youtube....h?v=dIZYVOTHaCc
ah now i see it
If the Elder One is giant Squid, I'm going come up with a new theory that the Elder God and the Elder One are brothers. 
If the Elder One is giant Squid, I'm going come up with a new theory that the Elder God and the Elder One are brothers.
Clearly there is a race of interdimensional parasitic gods that attach themselves to universes!
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