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#1451
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This isn't Loghain or Arishock. i dont think they should make the evil beyond time a "sympathetic" villain. maybe a villain you can agree with but not sympathetic. 

Is it an evil beyond time?

 

The writers described the Elder One as not merely arrogant, but arrogance.

 

To me, that sounds like it might just be a greater Pride Demon.



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This isn't Loghain or Arishock. i dont think they should make the evil beyond time a "sympathetic" villain. maybe a villain you can agree with but not sympathetic.

thats what i mean

#1453
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Is it an evil beyond time? The writers described the Elder One as not merely arrogant, but arrogance. To me, that sounds like it might just be a greater Pride Demon.

whats greater than pride

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He's the old guy at the end of my street that screams at people to stay off his lawn and calls the cops when those damn kids turn up their noise to loud.



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Is it an evil beyond time?

 

The writers described the Elder One as not merely arrogant, but arrogance.

 

To me, that sounds like it might just be a greater Pride Demon.

Consider the level of power and manipulation I don't think we are dealing with a pride demon of any kind since that seems way beyond they are cable off.

 

It must be something bigger and more powerful then anything we have encountered before.



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Consider the level of power and manipulation I don't think we are dealing with a pride demon of any kind since that seems way beyond they are cable off. It must be something bigger and more powerful then anything we have encountered before.

i assuming something from the fade or at least anchient

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whats greater than pride

 

I didn't say anything about something greater than Pride, but Arrogance is certainly a form of Pride and interviews about the Elder One have certainly emphasized his arrogance to the point of calling him arrogance rather than merely arrogant.

Consider the level of power and manipulation I don't think we are dealing with a pride demon of any kind since that seems way beyond they are cable off.

 

It must be something bigger and more powerful then anything we have encountered before.

 

It's probably bigger and more powerful than any other Pride Demon we've seen, and also much, much older. It likely has a unique set of experiences and knows more about things than most Demons.

 

Chances are that it recalls a time before the Veil and seeks a return to that time.

 

Him being just a Pride Demon doesn't necessarily take much away from how much of a Pride Demon he can be. The Architect and Corypheus are just Darkspawn. Special Darkspawn, but still just Darkspawn.

 

The way the Elder One is described, he seems defined by his arrogance. That makes it sound like he's either an Arrogance Demon or an Arrogance Abomination of some sort, however ancient and unique he might be.



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I didn't say anything about something greater than Pride, but Arrogance is certainly a form of Pride and interviews about the Elder One have certainly emphasized his arrogance to the point of calling him arrogance rather than merely arrogant. It's probably bigger and more powerful than any other Pride Demon we've seen, and also much, much older. It likely has a unique set of experiences and knows more about things than most Demons. Chances are that it recalls a time before the Veil and seeks a return to that time. Him being just a Pride Demon doesn't necessarily take much away from how much of a Pride Demon he can be. The Architect and Corypheus are just Darkspawn Special Darkspawn, but still just Darkspawn. The way the Elder One is described, he seems defined by his arrogance. That makes it sound like he's either an Arrogance Demon or an Arrogance Abomination of some sort, however ancient and unique he might be.

how does one epitomize arrogance

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how does one epitomize arrogance

How does a Demon epitomize anything?



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How does a Demon epitomize anything?

good point

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good point

Whatever the case, I'm assuming he's one of the first Demons and maybe even pre-veil.

 

His plans are certainly tied to the most arrogant possible action of setting oneself up as God, but they also seem aimed at undoing the creation of the veil.



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How does a Demon epitomize anything?

I really hope its not just some powerful version of one of the demon classes. we fight enough of those and see enough of those. we've seen enough demon lords, and none of them have had any real character. so i really hope we get something more than just a demon that is only arrogant 



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I really hope its not just some powerful version of one of the demon classes. we fight enough of those and see enough of those. we've seen enough demon lords, and none of them have had any real character. so i really hope we get something more than just a demon that is only arrogant 

Well, as I previously stated, I expect it to be just a Pride Demon in the same way that the Architect is just a Darkspawn Emmisary.



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Kieran G.

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Well, as I previously stated, I expect it to be just a Pride Demon in the same way that the Architect is just a Darkspawn Emmisary.

The difference with the architect is he is self aware which darkspawn aren't. if you can tell me how a Demon of arrogance is different from a demon of pride, anger, or desire besides the obvious different emotion. go ahead and tell me. otherwise its just another demon lord.



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The difference with the architect is he is self aware which darkspawn aren't. if you can tell me how a Demon of arrogance is different from a demon of pride, anger, or desire besides the obvious different emotion. go ahead and tell me. otherwise its just another demon lord.

It really just needs unique experiences and motivations alongside the rest.

 

None of the other Demon Lords really had any focus or more complicated motives. They just got in and fucked around with people.

 

The Elder One, on the other hand, is trying something much more complex with a much more distinct purpose. It's trying to tear down the Veil.



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If it isn't the Dread Wolf he better make an appearance;)  After The Masked Empire, and name dropping / wolf imagery in the trailers, screen caps I'm hopeful.



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If it isn't the Dread Wolf he better make an appearance;)  After The Masked Empire, and name dropping / wolf imagery in the trailers, screen caps I'm hopeful.

never saw any wolf imagery source?

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never saw any wolf imagery source?

Yes im curious too. because you know me XD I'm a dread wolf fan boy.



#1469
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Yes im curious too. because you know me XD I'm a dread wolf fan boy.

like i said more creepy elf s*** the better?

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like i said more creepy elf s*** the better?

I'm gonna watch all the trailers real fast. ill tell you if i see anything.



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I'm gonna watch all the trailers real fast. ill tell you if i see anything.

same

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same

This is what i've seen of elven statues or symbols so far

 

Ok. in the A World Unveiled Trailer there seems to be a wolf statue at 2:26 but that could easily be something different.

In Discover The Dragon Age trailer. at :53 there seems to be a statue to the elven god Ghilan'nain or might just be a statue of a halla.

In Lead them or Fall more elven statues Of a halla.

 

And i've watched all the trailers except for the demo's so far.



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whats greater than pride

Fear and Despair.



#1474
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Fear and Despair.

And we have seen fear in the multiplayer trailer so we can guess he is just going to be a mini boss like a pride demon will be.



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And we have seen fear in the multiplayer trailer so we can guess he is just going to be a mini boss like a pride demon will be.

We have seen them both, Despair is the one with a lot teeth (it was in one of the trailers) and Fear is the one with the dreadlocks.