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#101
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I personally just hop that we can tell the Elder One that we are he's new lord and master and he better get use to it.



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For some reason I imagine him looking like Ronan did in Guardians of the Galaxy:

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For some reason I imagine him looking like Ronan did in Guardians of the Galaxy:

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But he was just a puppet for Thanos. The Elder One's Arrogance makes him the clear Big Bad of the Game. There can be lesser Bag guys who Answer to the Elder One, but I doubt they would dare question anything the Elder One wanted to do.



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While I don't think it's the case, I hope the Elder One is the guy who stole the Qunari Book in DA2.

 

If he was trying to start a war with the Qunari and Thedas again, but Hawke put a stop to it, it'd make DA's events more important.

Especially since I think the Elder One is probably responsible for all of this crap.



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While I don't think it's the case, I hope the Elder One is the guy who stole the Qunari Book in DA2.

 

If he was trying to start a war with the Qunari and Thedas again, but Hawke put a stop to it, it'd make DA's events more important.

Especially since I think the Elder One is probably responsible for all of this crap.

 

So you think The Elder One is the Chess master behind all the events of Dragon Age? Showing the Architect how to free Darkspawn from the Taint knowing it would start the next Blight, and set things in motion to Free Coreyphus? If your Theory turns out to be true, just how far back has the Elder one been pulling the Strings? Did he exploit Loghain's fears and Paranoia to drive him over the edge to do what he did? What things did the Elder One involve himself in?


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So you think The Elder One is the Chess master behind all the events of Dragon Age? Showing the Architect how to free Darkspawn from the Taint knowing it would start the next Blight, and set things in motion to Free Coreyphus? If your Theory turns out to be true, just how far back has the Elder one been pulling the Strings? Did he exploit Loghain's fears and Paranoia to drive him over the edge to do what he did? What things did the Elder One involve himself in?

I suspect he was the one who lured the Magister to the Golden city.


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I suspect he was the one who lured the Magister to the Golden city.

 

Okay that would make sense if he was the cause of the Creation of the Darkspawn...which makes me wonder. If we end up defeating the Elder One, Dose that destroy the Darkspawn as well?



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So you think The Elder One is the Chess master behind all the events of Dragon Age? Showing the Architect how to free Darkspawn from the Taint knowing it would start the next Blight, and set things in motion to Free Coreyphus? If your Theory turns out to be true, just how far back has the Elder one been pulling the Strings? Did he exploit Loghain's fears and Paranoia to drive him over the edge to do what he did? What things did the Elder One involve himself in?

I don't know how far it goes but I think Game Informer said something like, "Your enemy will be invisible for much of the game but he's pulling the strings behind all of the major factions."

So I'm sure he's got his fingers in a lot of pies.

As the Inquisitor is "saving Thedas from itself." I assume the Elder One is the one stirring the pot.



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Okay that would make sense if he was the cause of the Creation of the Darkspawn...which makes me wonder. If we end up defeating the Elder One, Dose that destroy the Darkspawn as well?

 

Probably not as they might want to use Darkspawn in future games.

The problem of a franchise means that we know the destruction of any Templars or Circles or so on won't take.

 

They need to be around for Dragon Age 4: The Search for More Money.



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Okay that would make sense if he was the cause of the Creation of the Darkspawn...which makes me wonder. If we end up defeating the Elder One, Dose that destroy the Darkspawn as well?

doubt full, because of the money cow that BW needs to milk.  :lol:



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Know what would be funny? If we go by this idea that The Elder One has be manipulating events all this time, I would simply love if it turns out that Justice, and by extension Anders was The Elder One's Harbinger. They kicked started the War which allowed for the events of DA:I to unfold. Like Justice's Mission was to get into the Mortal realm and prepare for his coming.



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Know what would be funny? If we go by this idea that The Elder One has be manipulating events all this time, I would simply love if it turns out that Justice, and by extension Anders was The Elder One's Harbinger. They kicked started the War which allowed for the events of DA:I to unfold. Like Justice's Mission was to get into the Mortal realm and prepare for his coming.

 

I dunno, I liked Justice.

He was cool.

He just got stuck in a Chaotic Good Mage and it fried his Lawful Good Paladin mind.


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Know what would be funny? If we go by this idea that The Elder One has be manipulating events all this time, I would simply love if it turns out that Justice, and by extension Anders was The Elder One's Harbinger. They kicked started the War which allowed for the events of DA:I to unfold. Like Justice's Mission was to get into the Mortal realm and prepare for his coming.

I find making fun of BW's greed being funny, especially when I do it myself.



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I do hope he's a Satan figure because the various responses will be awesome.

 

"Where is your Maker now!?"

1. "I don't need the Maker, I have my friends!"
2. "He has sent me to cleanse this world of your evil!"
3. "Right here." *Rift Punch him*
4. "The Gods of my Ancestors guide me!"

5. "The Qun has no need of your superstitions but it demands your death."
6. "WHERE'S YOURS, DEMON?"


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I have an elaborate pet theory that runs on several levels. The more elaborate it gets, the less confident I am on its chances of being true, but I think it's neat.

 

Level 1

 

The Elder One  is an ancient elven dreamer.

 

Level 2

 

The Elder One is an ancient elven dreamer, more specifically Fen'Harel. He was in some way responsible for the destruction of Arlathan and maybe also the rise of Tevinter.

 

Level 3

 

The Elder One is an ancient elven dreamer, more specifically Fen'Harel. He was in some way responsible for the destruction of Arlathan and maybe also the rise of Tevinter. Moreover, he is the Maker. Not God, but the mythological figure Andrastians know as the Maker. This (probably) means the Black City is his stronghold, that he kicked the magisters out of it with extra Taint, and that he is the guy Andraste talked with.

 

Most of this comes from stuff I read in The Masked Empire, plus things in the games themselves. I believe some "prophecies" are worth noting:

 

Weep not for me, child. Stone they made me and stone I am, eternal and unfeeling. And I shall endure 'til the Maker returns to light their fires again.

 

If my theory is true to some extent, then the "Maker" does not refer to an all powerful God (which may or may not exist) but to an actual person. I seem to recall these are the fires of Tevinter. My hypothetical villain has involved himself with them in different ways, and in DAI the Venatori are banded with him.

 

One day the magic will come back. All of it. Everyone will be just like they were. The shadows will part, and the skies will open wide. When he rises, everyone will see.

 

Supposedly, all elves had magic. The sky is opening wide.

 

Change is coming to the world. Many fear change and will fight it with every fiber of their being. But sometimes, change is what they need the most. Sometimes, change is what sets them free.

 

My hypothetical Elder One has brought drastic change several times already.

 

Maybe I'll try showing my interpretations about some stuff in The Masked Empire later. I need to sort through that book first. Again, this may be completely wrong, but I'm fairly confident at least some of it has a good chance to be true. I think it would be a good move, since the villain would both fit into the existing lore (unlike random monster we never heard about before) but not be predictable and boring (like Corypheus or any other magister).


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I dunno, I liked Justice.

He was cool.

He just got stuck in a Chaotic Good Mage and it fried his Lawful Good Paladin mind.

 

That makes it all the more better. His goal would be to start the War and thus needed to be very convincing. Like he didn't even want to be there, thus no one would have suspected him and by the time he gets to Anders he exploits Anders's desire for freedom for mages.



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I kinda assume The Elder One was an uncorrupted Old God, one of the two left anyway. Probably wrong though.



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I kinda assume The Elder One was an uncorrupted Old God, one of the two left anyway. Probably wrong though.

Again, I fear that's too predictable, lazy, and uninteresting. Possible, but I would be disappointed :D  



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Idea what if he's a fear demon(or some spectrum) and he cause world wide fear and paranioa

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I kinda assume The Elder One was an uncorrupted Old God, one of the two left anyway. Probably wrong though.

 

We could all be wrong, and Bioware throws a curve ball at us. But that's okay. All we are doing is discussing potential theories no matter how crazy they may seem.



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Idea what if he's a fear demon(or some spectrum) and he cause world wide fear and paranioa

The reason I doubt he is a demon is because in TME it is said demons like imagination and creativity. They are abnormally dangerous parrots that can't do anything other than imitate humans. I don't think one of them could figure out to do that kind of stuff.

 

And the most powerful demons in town (that we know of), the forbidden ones, seem unlikely seeing how Imshael had no idea the Breach was coming.



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We don't actually know that the Elder one has anything to do about the golden city and the Magister. we all kinda assumed this since Tevinters were calling him the elder one, and i would assume if he was an old god, they would just call him by his/her name, not giving him some title like "elder one" we keep thinking he is the bad of the bad in the DA universe, i really doubt he has caused every problem in thedas.



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We don't actually know that the Elder one has anything to do about the golden city and the Magister. we all kinda assumed this since Tevinters were calling him the elder one, and i would assume if he was an old god, they would just call him by his/her name, not giving him some title like "elder one" we keep thinking he is the bad of the bad in the DA universe, i really doubt he has caused every problem in thedas.

alright lets downsize his reach. If he want the mortal realm what for, why merge the fade with thedas

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alright lets downsize his reach. If he want the mortal realm what for, why merge the fade with thedas

Well we know he has a god complex, but he already has a very powerful cult that is able to find its way into the courts of kings, (which is showed in the gamescon demo when at the wartable) But he must think that's not enough since we see Venatori working with Terror demon's, so they must be under some kind of control if they are working with them like some regular ranked soldiers.

 

Ok maybe for the time we just use occam's razor and say he is just after godhood, then why does he need to open the breach to prove that?



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Well we know he has a god complex, but he already has a very powerful cult that is able to find its way into the courts of kings, (which is showed in the gamescon demo when at the wartable) But he must think that's not enough since we see Venatori working with Terror demon's, so they must be under some kind of control if they are working with them like some regular ranked soldiers. Ok maybe for the time we just use occam's razor and say he is just after godhood, then why does he need to open the breach to prove that?

stupid people are impressed by flashy lights and loud noises(assuming the breach makes sounds)