damn misread apologies truly got my eyrs dialated still can see well
Just since we are going to see games after this that are in the same saga. i doubt we are going to have completely earth shattering truths. we are definitely going to learn things, and we might even learn more lore about legend about the golden city, just not the truth about it, or the real appearance of it.
True very true. Wonder what mysteries are going to be revealed
I just think if they are going to give any big reveals about the truth of the maker. it will be which ever game comes after the Qunari war.
I don't think the elder one has anything to do with the golden/black/eternal city really. like i don't think the story is going to have anything to do with it. herald of Andraste or not. i think we are still going to just see it from a distance.
I think the dev's are going to keep the city ambiguous still, since we know unlike mass effect trilogy there are more games coming out in this saga.
There is a new ME game coming out sometime, not much is known about it other then a couple rumors (Like it taking place in another galaxy) and some concept art.
There is a new ME game coming out sometime, not much is known about it other then a couple rumors (Like it taking place in another galaxy) and some concept art.
I know. its the next game in the franchise but not in the saga.
I know. its the next game in the franchise but not in the saga.
We'll see, we don't know much about the game yet.
We'll see, we don't know much about the game yet.
They have said many times the shepard story is over. and with all the talk about if fans would like to see mass effect universe in another time. i'm pretty sure we are looking at a new saga or at least a stand alone.
His claims to godhood are certainly not welcomed by my Warden. His son the OGB is the one who will be the God-Emperor of Thedas, not this "Elder one" the pretender
While throwing around all these theories, once can't help but wonder if the devs laugh while reading this when one of us has a spot on theory only to be told by other posters " There is no way that can be right."
So it is safe to say blowing up the Peace conference took a lot of effort on his part?
I think blowing up the peace conference was more a fortunate result of the ritual that summoned him than a conscious display of his power.
So it was a happy little accident? The Elder One didn't plan for it? Just good luck on his end?
just once id like that they say "close but no soup for you"While throwing around all these theories, once can't help but wonder if the devs laugh while reading this when one of us has a spot on theory only to be told by other posters " There is no way that can be right."
So it was a happy little accident? The Elder One didn't plan for it? Just good luck on his end?
Well, I'm pretty sure he planned on it causing a big explosion and the cult deciding that the peace talks where the perfect place for them, but I think that the explosion is more the result of the ritual rather than a direct attack of the Elder One himself.
Eh, I prefer to think it was The Elder One. Makes him far more intimidating aside from his minions doing it. But then again, The Elder One is a plotter.
arrogance often requires a display of power or authorityEh, I prefer to think it was The Elder One. Makes him far more intimidating aside from his minions doing it. But then again, The Elder One is a plotter.
arrogance often requires a display of power or authority
And striking at a sacred Chantry place/meeting also asserts superiority over the Maker.
big stick theory at work imoAnd striking at a sacred Chantry place/meeting also asserts superiority over the Maker.
While the Fade Explosion is nice, I'd prefer a much Larger Entrance for The Elder One. Make his influence felt all across Thedas. Not to barrow from a MMO, but I really liked the Cataclysm Trailer in this regard. Made the Bid Bag feel Very Threatening.
I don't think the elder one has anything to do with the golden/black/eternal city really. like i don't think the story is going to have anything to do with it. herald of Andraste or not. i think we are still going to just see it from a distance.
I think the dev's are going to keep the city ambiguous still, since we know unlike mass effect trilogy there are more games coming out in this saga.
That would be incredibly disappointing to me. Besides, like the developers said: the longer the series goes on, the less people will care about decisions and subjects from the earlier installments. The longer we go without learning about it, the less people will care. Those who wanted to know will leave before then, because they never got the answers they were looking for and those who don't care will leave afterward because the game was not about something they cared about.
I don't think you can make a series by stretching out the reveals and plots. That's just no way to go. You need to pull out the stops for each installment.
And if they reveal that the chantry is based on lies what ever PC we have in another game will be biased since we know the truth. and the only way you could work something like that into the story would be to eliminate choice that the whole world finds out so our later PC wont be biased because of our out of game knowledge.
And i think we will learn the truth about the golden city, just not this game. i just think people are looking too deep into a simple phrase which many villains have said in many medias. "where is your god now?" Villains say that all the time. just because he says it doesn't mean he knows anything about the maker. or about the golden city. or that he is from the city.
And its all sound clips from different parts of different conversations. so we cant base his entire persona off of snippets. we can listen to what the devs say that he is completely arrogant. but you don't have to know the truth to be arrogant. he could just be a demon who doesn't believe in the maker.
Also most villains in the DA series haven't gotten some big explanation of who they are or where they come from. you mostly only ever see their feeling in the moment.
I mean did we learn anything about the old gods in DA:O plot wise?
Did we see anything of the land owned by the Qun?
When Meredith died did we get an explanation what red lyrium is?
DA kinda keeps these things hazy. so why would we get answers now?
And i think we will learn the truth about the golden city, just not this game. i just think people are looking too deep into a simple phrase which many villains have said in many medias. "where is your god now?" Villains say that all the time. just because he says it doesn't mean he knows anything about the maker. or about the golden city. or that he is from the city.
Also most villains in the DA series haven't gotten some big explanation of who they are or where they come from. you mostly only ever see their feeling in the moment.
I mean did we learn anything about the old gods in DA:O plot wise?
Did we see anything of the land owned by the Qun?
When Meredith died did we get an explanation what red lyrium is?
DA kinda keeps these things hazy. so why would we get answers now?
No, people expected those answers because there's a big gaping hole into the Fade from Thedas. Not exactly far fetched to expect answers when the most famous situation in the whole Thedas universe occurs for a second time.
Yes. Tons. How they communicate, that they were actually imprisoned beneath the earth, how they are tainted, that they can body hop but not into a grey warden, etc.
Not yet, but we have learned a lot about the Qun, and more is sure to follow.
Partially, yes. We know at least some of the things it can do and what the cost is.
Because mysteries are meant to be solved. Not solving a mystery is a failure and pointless. Stories are all about answering questions.
Yeah but we don't have to know the truth about a city with connection to every surface culture that we know of. (excluding the Qun/Kossith) and just because it has connection to all these cultures doesn't mean we will get some big revelation this game about it. they will want some mystery to come from later games.
Not on any of the main quest of DA:O were we sent to go learn about the old gods. anything we learned was from the codex, or occasional dialogue. And the body hop isn't about the Old gods its about the arch demon(Yes i know they are the same entity. but they are not the same creature. since they are powerful enough to leave their prison and command an army). which again is only an enemy we see twice, never truly communicate with, never speak to, and never learn of its intention except that historian think it just wants to destroy the world.
What did we learn about the Qun? they accept Elves? they own Par Vollen? the only thing we really learned about the Qunari was stuff about the Saarabas and the Tal-Voshoth.
And no. stories aren't all about answering questions. they are about journeys. and that's what the dragon age saga is, a journey. You find out one thing in one game, the game after that you find out a bit more that ties in, then a bit more. They don't throw every answer at you in one game. then randomly make up some more. this isn't crap like resident evil, where they just make up crap every game. they plan ahead so they know where the story was going.
DA2 left us with many questions. what is red lyrium? where are the Warden and Hawke? whats going on with the MT war? What are the seekers goals?
All those questioned unanswered. so why do you think DA:I will just wrap everything up in a snug bow?
We know they aren't planning to end here. this isn't a trilogy. these games just happen to follow a bit of the trilogy guidelines, that's all.
My 1st post, but have been lurking in here since 2010....
My fear is that Bioware might have drawn too heavily from Skyrim for inspiration by infusing their lore with the main plot in TES V.
So I would hope that this "Elder One" isn't an Old God who has escaped their imprisonment just to end the world. If so, then it would feel like a story that I've already read numerous times before.
It took a Fade breach to go to the black city. There is another fade breach now. There isn't likely going to be a third. Draw your own conclusions.
And define journey. Because at the end of any journey, you will have found answers. Otherwise your journey IS. NOT. OVER.
Actually there have been other Veil tears. and this is nothing like what the Magister did. and if anything veil tears are more an Elven thing since we have seen first hand in Dragon age redemption Fen'Harels mask can cause veil tears.
A veil tear is with the fade. not the black city.
And what you're not getting is the PC are important but they aren't what is the main importance. its Thedas as a whole. that is the journey. the journey of thedas and of where it leads. so yes we will get some answers, but we will also be left with questions to be answered another time,
Again using DA2 as an example. that game left you with many questions. and how you explained it the journey had ended at the end of the game. why didn't we get every answers about red lyrium? or the mage templar war? or the seekers? or where the warden went? or the Old god baby? Because the devs don't want to tell you everything at once, they want you to find that out. they want you to keep going down the rabbit hole.
Do you want he elder one to give you some giant monologue where he reveals the secret of everything in thedas? taking away the mystery which drives so many of us? This isn't ME3 they don't need to wrap everything up.
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