idea what if the veil was always weak after what the magisters did. And the centuries of conflict just made thinner, and the EO decided he's seen what the mortal races have done and is tired of it so he completly breaches the veil to rule over them for x reason
I really wonder if he wants to rule or destroy the world.
It makes me wonder. like i hope his end goal is unsuspecting, like if it turns out he is doing this all for a girl 
But it is really curious if he is a Destroyer or a Conqueror
have you been in love? It makes people do silly things lol jkI really wonder if he wants to rule or destroy the world.
It makes me wonder. like i hope his end goal is unsuspecting, like if it turns out he is doing this all for a girl
But it is really curious if he is a Destroyer or a Conqueror
have you been in love? It makes people do silly things lol jk
*Regains composer* anyone with that magnitude of power they would more than likely be conquer
But why would he? if he has all that power why would he want to rule? did he just get this power or has he had it forever?
I mean have we heard about The Elder One's Demons holding keepings like a faction? or conquering Villages? doing anything Conquerors do.
The Venatori aren't exactly an army. We know they have troops. but we also know they use agents and they don't seem powerful enough to take whole cities.
So how did they take Red Cliffe castle and why is the Elder One coming to kill the Inquisitor and Alexius.
All good questions. I would assumed he slowly gained them and recent events allowed him to move his pawns then follow up with a rook play, if you allow my chess metaphor. And as sima yi showed from history there are many ways to conquer rather than through force
Yes from the shadows, or influence. but have we seen anything like that? he is forcefully pushing into the world. which will no matter what come with retaliation, his venatori are being more influential in some ways that they have advisers in certain circles and its probably because of people fearing the end. but i think he is trying to destroy.
I really hope the writers are trying to keep away from what Humans would think. Of what humans may want. Or how a Human villain may act.
I mean the only reason demons are jealous is because of us. they got that emotion from us. just like pride and anger.
So i think(and hope) he is a different villain who may want something, but it wouldn't be what a mortal may want. since humans and the Elder One are radically different entities and therefore what have different mind sets. so thats why i don't think he is "Conquering" he might have demons in a area for military reason but otherwise i don't see his demons siege Val'Royeaux just because he want this city for his new empire.
Hmm what kind minset would be appropriate given the knowledge we have
Of everything we have heard from dev's he has been setting plans up for his arrival, but if he was doing this so he could conquer why wouldn't he just immediately cripple the military and then quickly move into occupy or destroy population centers. He obviously has the man power and agents to take RedCliffe castle which has been successfully besieged twice, and i still called inaccessible. so why cause that explosion at a summit instead of a giant army, or a population center and then rip the veil in places for the best out come.
Unless he truly cant control where the rip and tears happen except the Breach itself.
Or he isn't trying to conquer and just kill, because he wants to kill.
Why would a conqueror go out to kill one of his commanders who successfully took one of the strongest fortresses in the south? i think his motivations aren't just land grab.
We know officials and ambassadors were at the summit but the fighting is still going on during inquisition showing that they still have troops to kill with.
And before that why didn't he just orchestrate a big battle, between the templars or armies and blow them all up like he did the summit?
Each nation still has its army he has to fight, it doesn't seem like he really tried to stop an inquisition being formed which of course one would if you open a breach anywhere.
Im starting to think he's a higj functionioning malevelant sociopath due to his patentice and habit of causing death just cause
That's what i'm saying, this doesn't seem like what an invasion would be like.
Like in oblivion Dagon opened Portals right outside of the cities. and the biggest outside of a city with his only real threat.
So if the Elder one eventually sees us as a threat why wouldn't he do the same to us like he did to the summit? can he only do it once? more to the point, does he think he can win from attrition, is that why he didn't send any armies straight to the city walls, he just thinks he can wait us out? i mean that would explain why he doesn't like us being alive since we can close portals, and if thats the case, why not take us out from the getgo?
Thats why i think this is a masterfully orchestrated plan, but it isn't a plan of invasion, i think he much more enjoys the chaos than the victory.
Just think about how he talks to us. He is trying to hurt us. "Tell me. Where is your maker now? You cannot? For he does not exist." how he says that doesn't seem like he is trying to prove it to us, but more so trying to break us down.
i like that train of thought.That's what i'm saying, this doesn't seem like what an invasion would be like.
Like in oblivion Dagon opened Portals right outside of the cities. and the biggest outside of a city with his only real threat.
So if the Elder one eventually sees us as a threat why wouldn't he do the same to us like he did to the summit? can he only do it once? more to the point, does he think he can win from attrition, is that why he didn't send any armies straight to the city walls, he just thinks he can wait us out? i mean that would explain why he doesn't like us being alive since we can close portals, and if thats the case, why not take us out from the getgo?
Thats why i think this is a masterfully orchestrated plan, but it isn't a plan of invasion, i think he much more enjoys the chaos than the victory.
i like that train of thought.
Its reasonable for his to wait us out since we arent a threat(for now*charges rift spell*) since he's extremely arrogant and believe either his people finish the job or you'll die from whatever
But why would a conqueror risk such a thing, the one person who can stop your tears? would you order that man in front of you and beheaded.
Its only us "Lead them or fall." doesn't sound like there is a back up inquisitor coming. (though cassandra or leliana would be a beautiful inquisitor.)
oh yeah.... a well toned couger that looks in her 20s.... heheh*lewd grin*But why would a conqueror risk such a thing, the one person who can stop your tears? would you order that man in front of you and beheaded.
Its only us "Lead them or fall." doesn't sound like there is a back up inquisitor coming. (though cassandra or leliana would be a beautiful inquisitor.)
oh yeah.... a well toned couger that looks in her 20s.... heheh*lewd grin*
Anyway to qoute history. Cao cao of the wei kingdom had numerous chances to kill lui bei, a well liked leader but generally ignored him to being a minor threat at best. This went on for years til the battle at chibi where both lui bei and sun quan bested him in that battle.
Point im trying to make is no matter how arrogant/powerful you are, one minor crack in your plan can turn into a fault line
And wouldn't a mastermind who orchestrated these wars like the elder one see a dent in his armor and hammer it out immediately?
Simi yi was one of wei's greatest military advisors
And even planning the battle at shiting 3years in advance he still lost to wu forces despite having more personel
But that doesn't answer the initial question. if you knew there was an enemy who did have a chance of upsetting a plan you have wouldn't you killing him? personel or not.
The inquisitor isn't some King of troops. He is literally the only person able to stop the Elder One's Tears. that isn't thinking oh it can never happen. oh i will never see him
Here is an example. say you are immortal to any attack, not sword or gun could kill you. but there was ONE dagger that could kill you, just a regular dagger. wouldn't you destroy just because it is the only one that can destroy you, and it doesn't mean someone will use it, but you eliminate the possibility of someone using it.
This isn't some king thinking oh hey he just is some dumb lord, ill let him live. this is the one guy who can stop you, small or not.
And if he isn't from the getgo trying to kill you after you close the first tear. why is that? i think its because its not his end goal. what ever that end goal is. it isn't to have all these tears everywhere open, so he just doesn't care so much. if he was trying to flood the world with demons, wouldn't he at every moment be attempting to cause more tears, and place where they would be useful. not random places like forests away from villages? wouldn't you make tears all over Denerim and such.
And now i'm even wonder why isn't he? a distraction maybe? i really don't know, i'm spit balling this theory as i go.
I'm guessing that he doesn't realize you've survived at first, and he's far enough from omnipotent to easily do anything about you when he finally does.
Either that or he's using you.
I'm guessing that he doesn't realize you've survived at first, and he's far enough from omnipotent to easily do anything about you when he finally does.
Either that or he's using you.
But don't you think his cult will learn of the inquisition quickly. unless he is using you, i can't see how anyone would let his kryptonite walk around free to mess with him.
So I don't think his vision is only looking at the tears. maybe he just opened the breach so he could get out.
Is the tears are a distraction, and the breach was a doorway to freedom... the implications are most unnerving
I think they are a way to destroy the veil, the more there are the harder the veil can get hold together, similar to a cloth with so many holes in the end it just falls apart.
I suppose he wants the Breach to be blamed on the Mages so the fighting continues. That is the only logical reason to be hitting the peace conference instead of a place more strategic value.
I suppose he wants the Breach to be blamed on the Mages so the fighting continues. That is the only logical reason to be hitting the peace conference instead of a place more strategic value.
It doesn't have to be blamed on Mages at all. Just keep things from being resolved and kill all of the respected leaders who were intent on peace, and things will be simply too messy to sort out. And the only influential leaders remaining will be those who refused an invitation to the peace gathering.
Following that through with how it demoralizes the people, I would say it's probably one of the most strategic areas he could have hit. It's the area that keeps everyone freaking the hell out and murdering one another. If people are properly demoralized, you also get lovely, lovely Abominations forming!
Personally, I'm expecting the Elder One to do some Fen'Harel-ish playing of both sides of this conflict, keeping the fight going and ensuring that there's as much bloodshed and suffering milked out of it as possible. If his intention is to demolish the Veil, then there's hardly any better option than that.
IMBD isn't much of a source....Anyone know who The Elder One's VA is? Should give us an idea of what sort of personality they plan on giving just beyond Arrogance.
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