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Are There "Good" Templars In Inquisition?


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#151
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If he had the Knight Commanders in his pocket, they likely did.

 

It isn't like they can do much if 90% of the order is leaving.

 

Beyond that Seekers have higher authority then Templars.

 

They do oversee the order and outrank its highest officials after all.

Still, I don't think they answer to the Lord Seeker in terms of him being the Grandmaster.

It's academic, either way since they all went with him as you say.



#152
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Negative. The Inquisition receives legitimacy from the highest authority that exists, and the only authority that truly matters. We are the instrument of the Maker.

 

You know that's exactly the same reason Lambert uses in the epilogue of Asunder to justify breaking away from the Chantry, don't you? So what gives the Inquisition a more legitimate authority?

 

The answer will be Josephine I mean, diplomacy, accords, a more successful army and more popularity, I suppose. According to the multiplayer cards, it seems people from different backgrounds are flocking to the Inquisition.



#153
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You know that's exactly the same reason Lambert uses in the epilogue of Asunder to justify breaking away from the Chantry, don't you? So what gives the Inquisition a more legitimate authority?

 

The fact that the Inquisitor walked alone out of the cataclysm and literally emits green beams of pure Salvation™.

 

... On the less dramatic side, the Inquisition will also be delivering actual results on its good intentions, pretty much as you stated in your post.


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#154
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Lambert had every right to rebel against the Divine.

However, so did everyone who resisted him.


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#155
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I wonder if all templars are rebels and red templars during DAI and rest have left the order. Then there would be no good templars around I'm afraid since red templars probaply have gone pretty insane.



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Hopefully, there will only be dead Templars in my game.   And that would include people like Cassandra & Cullen.



#157
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Hopefully, there will only be dead Templars in my game.   And that would include people like Cassandra & Cullen.

Why? Cassandra is not a templar and Cullen is no longer a member of the order.



#158
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Why? Cassandra is not a templar and Cullen is no longer a member of the order.

 

Yeah, I think the break with the Chanty was more severe than people realize.

Cullen and Cassandra may consider the other Templars traitors.

I.e. this is not a conflict everyone is going to hug and kiss after.

Including the Templars and Chantry.



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To Cassandra, Cullen and those members of their order who remained loyal to the Divine, they are effectively the "good" Templars.

 

To Lambert and the Knight Commanders who supported him, together with their followers, they are the "good" Templars.

 

To the members of the apostate mage community there are no "good" Templars (or only a very few renegades from the official order).

 

To the Black Divine those who serve his needs and police magic as directed by him are "good" Templars.   In fact I wonder what happened with respect to these members of the order.     Did they remain in Tevinter or did they leave to join Lambert?   (Remember he once served the order in Tevinter).

 

To ordinary people "good" Templars are those who protect them from mages without harming the ordinary populace in the process.


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#160
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I'm rather sad we can't start out as a templar. It'd make for so many great interactions and story flavors. My Inquisitor would be a good-ish templar with empathy for the mages.

That said I still might specialize as a templar in the game.



#161
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I'm rather sad we can't start out as a templar. It'd make for so many great interactions and story flavors. My Inquisitor would be a good-ish templar with empathy for the mages.

That said I still might specialize as a templar in the game.

 

Wait, isn't that the Human Male origin?

You're a Templar in Training?



#162
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I'm rather sad we can't start out as a templar. It'd make for so many great interactions and story flavors. My Inquisitor would be a good-ish templar with empathy for the mages.
That said I still might specialize as a templar in the game.


If I were you I'd pray the Templar spec to better rather than being able to start as one. It was the most useless warrior spec in both games and the only people who chose it did so because of lore reason not because it was strong. Not to mention mage enemies are rare, bad bonuses versus rare enemies? No thanks

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Wait, isn't that the Human Male origin?
You're a Templar in Training?


Not really, you simply have good relations with Chantry.

#164
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If I were you I'd pray the Templar spec to better rather than being able to start as one. It was the most useless warrior spec in both games and the only people who chose it did so because of lore reason not because it was strong. Not to mention mage enemies are rare, bad bonuses versus rare enemies? No thanks

Well. They were rare prior to templar vs mage war. We don't really know how common they'll be in Inquisition. But you're right. I wouldn't even bother checking out the skills. The lore would be all I'd care about.

But if I can only specialize as templar after the Inquisition is founded then I'm not that interested. I might just throw a dice :P.



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To the Black Divine those who serve his needs and police magic as directed by him are "good" Templars.   In fact I wonder what happened with respect to these members of the order.     Did they remain in Tevinter or did they leave to join Lambert?   (Remember he once served the order in Tevinter).

 

No word has been said about Tevinter Templars in Inquisition, I think. I know we have Tevinter mages in the game, but so far it seems that they belong to the crazy cult of the Venatori instead of being agents of the Imperium. My guess? Tevinter Templars are still in Tevinter.



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[quote name="Commander Aeducan" post="17246642" timestamp="1409623082"]Let's see...Evangeline, Cullen. Ser Thrask, Otto (a blind templar) and those who did not abuse their power. I'm pretty sure I want to recruit both good and sane mages and good templars

I would have liked to see Ser Bryant from the Lothering Chantry, he seemed to be a good Templar who cared more about protecting the civilians than wanting to arrest my Amell and Morrigan.

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There was also the Templar in Redcliff who allowed the Mage's Collective to work. Sure, it was done with bribes, but considering the templars become wrecks without lyrium, it seems to be more of a "you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours", an entirely mutual arrangement.



#168
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Hopefully, there will only be dead Templars in my game. And that would include people like Cassandra & Cullen.


You know that the vast majority of Templars are just regular men and women who do their jobs, right?

They're in many ways no different from regular knights and soldiers. In fact some of them (Greagoire, Thrask, Carver etc) held far more positive opinions of mages than the common folk, who hate, scorn and jeer mages.

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I suppose a 'good templar' depends on where you're standing. 

 

Redcliffe and resolving the mage v templar conflict there is probably what legitimises the Inquisition from a ragtag group of people- namely the pc, Cassandra, Varric and probably Solas - closing rift tares into a recognised organisation with political power. Cullen and other moderates like him, who may or may not have left the Chantry, are probably fighting the extremists in Redcliffe protecting civilians and his group is the beginning of the Inquisitor's army. 

 

They're the ones who know of Skyhold and while most of the Inquisition are at the keep making it liveable the Elder One attacks the Haven base. The Divine endorses the Inquisition by loaning out Leliana, who like Josephine doesn't appear until we move to Skyhold.