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[cato potato]

Great job cato ! I was thinking about calculating some stats about the plat solos these last weeks but didn't find the time. I will try to add more information soon, when I will have added the weapons for all classes.

 

Minor e-peen correction : I am actually in third position with 45 entries, VS 37 for Clusum (I think you based your ranking simply on a word search). Actually, I have done a total of 51 plat solos, but I started posting in this thread only after the 6th. 

 

I counted all the solos (including ex-Clusum's) that were posted late on the previous page, so I think you have actually been knocked off the podium at the moment.

[Loufi]

I counted all the solos (including ex-Clusum's) that were posted late on the previous page, so I think you have actually been knocked off the podium at the moment.

What ? Can I accept that   ? Damn PC players ! I'm done, I can't fight against those guys  .

[Barrogh]

Good job. These are some rather unexpected results, I must say.

[cato potato]

Good job. These are some rather unexpected results, I must say.

 

Thanks. There were a couple of results that I find a bit surprising.

For example: the Turian Soldier and Turian Saboteur have almost exactly the same average completion times; the Salarian Infiltrator has an average time almost 10 minutes slower than his Engineer cousin; of the four Volus, only the Mercenary has a relatively slow average time - the other three are somewhere in the middle; no-one has used either of the original Drells to solo the most grenade rich map (Rio) or one of the very best grenade maps (Jade).

[TheNightSlasher]

^ Cato, some of your findings make me want to come out of my 'retirement' from plat solos. Esp. the facts abt collectors, drell. 

[Loufi]

^ Cato, some of your findings make me want to come out of my 'retirement' from plat solos. Esp. the facts abt collectors, drell. 

Yes, do it, retirement is for old people.

 

Thanks. There were a couple of results that I find a bit surprising.

For example: the Turian Soldier and Turian Saboteur have almost exactly the same average completion times; the Salarian Infiltrator has an average time almost 10 minutes slower than his Engineer cousin; of the four Volus, only the Mercenary has a relatively slow average time - the other three are somewhere in the middle; no-one has used either of the original Drells to solo the most grenade rich map (Rio) or one of the very best grenade maps (Jade).

Jade is a hard map and Rio can be a pain with some objectives, so I'm not very surprised that these two squishy drells haven't been employed on those maps.

 

There are some other of your findings that seem counterintuitive :

 

Adepts have the fastest average completion time of the classes while Infiltrators have the slowest. Finally, platinum solos would be more about crowd control than bosses killing ? I say that cautiously, because there would be several variables to control to make a meaningful analysis, for example the repartition of the different factions and map fighted in the solos of these two classes. Some infiltrators, due to their survivability and high dps, are also typically the go-to kits for hard missions, and so, high times. 

 

The Turian Ghost cuts an awkward figure as the slowest.  Despite his huge dps with any good assault rifle and his Stim Packs who allow him to tank a lot of damage ? As above, the fact that he is the perfect character for hard missions probably kills his average time, just like the fact that he is also the perfect character for first plat solos, which are rarely the fastest a player does.

[cato potato]

Yes, do it, retirement is for old people.

 

Jade is a hard map and Rio can be a pain with some objectives, so I'm not very surprised that these two squishy drells haven't been employed on those maps.

 

There are some other of your findings that seem counterintuitive :

 

Adepts have the fastest average completion time of the classes while Infiltrators have the slowest. Finally, platinum solos would be more about crowd control than bosses killing ? I say that cautiously, because there would be several variables to control to make a meaningful analysis, for example the repartition of the different factions and map fighted in the solos of these two classes. Some infiltrators, due to their survivability and high dps, are also typically the go-to kits for hard missions, and so, high times. 

 

The Turian Ghost cuts an awkward figure as the slowest.  Despite his huge dps with any good assault rifle and his Stim Packs who allow him to tank a lot of damage ? As above, the fact that he is the perfect character for hard missions probably kills his average time, just like the fact that he is also the perfect character for first plat solos, which are rarely the fastest a player does.

 

How about Goddess? No Drell Vanguard solos there at all, it seems like a good fit too.

 

Regarding the difference in average times: I think it might be because players often choose an Infiltrator for their first, or only, Platinum solo - which will very rarely be a quick time - and the Turian Ghost is a great kit to use for a solo beginner purely because of Cloak and Stim Packs. Whereas adepts are slightly more difficult to play and are probably only attempted by more experienced, confident players who are likely to get better times.

 

The difference in average times between Adepts and Infiltrators isn't huge anyway, Infiltrators are about 14% slower.

[Loufi]

How about Goddess? No Drell Vanguard solos there at all, it seems like a good fit too.

 

Regarding the difference in average times: I think it might be because players often choose an Infiltrator for their first, or only, Platinum solo - which will very rarely be a quick time - and the Turian Ghost is a great kit to use for a solo beginner purely because of Cloak and Stim Packs. Whereas adepts are slightly more difficult to play and are probably only attempted by more experienced, confident players who are likely to get better times.

 

The difference in average times between Adepts and Infiltrators isn't huge anyway, Infiltrators are about 14% slower.

Exactly how I see it. 

 

About the drell vanguard, I think that this is quite a hard solo, IMO the hardest among the vanguard class. Goddess is not as hard as London or Condor but it is not either an easy map like Giant, White, Reactor, Glacier or even Ghost. So hard + relatively hard may discourage a lot of players.

[TheTechnoTurian]

Here's an old thing from Prestacious's thread that I never cross-posted.

 

Geth Winfiltrator:

 

TheTechnoTurian | August 17th 2014 | 25:31 | Glacier | Geth | Geth Plasma Shotgun

[ex-Clusum]

Turian Havoc 10WS

ex-Clusum | September 29th 2014 | 46:20 | Ghost | Collector | Wraith, Acolyte

 

not a very good time but objectives weren't very friendly either with devices and targets

just couldn't be bothered to take out phantoms with the wraith even if i only killed like 3 of those

 

this probably the forth time i submit a solo with targets

[capn233]

Only had 2 maps I needed to do.  I doubt I submitted screens for many of them, but this was for me anyway.

 

Turian Soldier

 

capn233 | September 25th 2014 | 43:41 | Glacier | Collectors | Hurricane, Scorpion

 

I used the CIWS on TSol, and this was also the only TSol one I have done so far.  Escort, Hack, Targets.

 

Krogan Battlemaster

 

capn233 | September 29th 2014 | 37:17 | Dagger Hazard | Geth | Reegar

 

As I mentioned in the other thread, I started off trying this map with my Brawler, who happens to be spec'd for "melee."  Loufi said to do Geth, so I ended up switching to Battlemaster.  Took a couple tries with this setup.  Geth are bad and Bombers + Drones are very irritating.  Packages, Escort, Escort.  Wave 3 Devices is probably easier than half of the objectives on this map actually.

[AW_FC_1986]

Drell Vanguard

AW_FC_1986 I September 29th 2014 I 60:33 I Dagger Hazard I Reaper I N7 Piranha

[Loufi]

 

Turian Havoc 10WS

ex-Clusum | September 29th 2014 | 46:20 | Ghost | Collector | Wraith, Acolyte

 

not a very good time but objectives weren't very friendly either with devices and targets

just couldn't be bothered to take out phantoms with the wraith even if i only killed like 3 of those

 

this probably the forth time i submit a solo with targets

 

The Acolyte isn't needed for Phantoms IMO when you have Stim Packs, Havoc Strike to stagger them and Cryo Blast to force them to bubble but, yes, this is a lot faster to kill them with this gun than with the Wraith, especially with this damn DR they get on-host.

 

 

The platinum HOF is updated.

[capn233]

Can do some image housecleaning for e-peen map documentation I guess.  I just have score screens for some of them, and some are very old.

 

First one I ever did was TGI w Harrier and Acolyte v Reapers on Giant way back on 10.29.12.  Don't care if it is added, just linking it anyway because it was sitting in my screenshot directory.  Wasn't even compatible with the original Hall of Fame since everyone had done TGI by then.

 

Talon Engineer w/ GPS

 

capn233 | November 23 2013 | 63:30 | Giant Hazard | Reapers | GPS

 

The idea for this was to be lazy and kite them into my mines.  It was slow and I didn't bother posting it before.

 

Warlord

 

capn233 | November 27 2013 | 53:20 | Giant | Geth | Reegar

 

It was with the Reegar and the time was slower than the other Geth Reegar game I did on here with the Battlemaster, so I didn't post it before.  You'll note though that I have the Gold melee medal, but only bronze Shotgun medal (with silver HS).  So it was mostly (electric) hammer time.

 

Cabal w/ PPR and Acolyte

 

capn233 | November 27 2013 | 62:38 | Giant | Reapers | PPR and Acolyte

 

Yes a double header.  This was because I read on the forum how wonderful the Cabal was for solos so I decided to test it.  This was a no-PS build.

 

Justicar w/ Talon and CSMG

 

capn233 | April 25 2014 | 71:27 | Giant | Collectors | Talon and CSMG

 

Devices, Targets, Escort.  The idea here was to get 10WS with the Justicar, but that didn't happen.  Talon was supposed to be good for barrier stripping and mooks, and I could use CSMG for range.  It turned out that CSMG was a near complete waste and when I figured that out I used the Talon extensively for the rest of the game.

 

TGI w/ Lancer and Acolyte (IIRC)

 

capn233 | April 27 2014 | 62:47 | Rio | Collectors | Lancer

 

Targets, Escort, Hack.  I think I took the Acolyte on this one, but I can't remember exactly.  I didn't get a pistol kill medal.  I didn't note that on my list of solos, but I take it sometimes just because it is light and why not?  It could have been a Hurricane or Scorpion though.  The main idea was to see how well the Lancer w/ IA would work out in a solo.  Time isn't great, and Rio sucks.

 

Juggernaut w/ Venom and Hurricane

 

capn233 | April 28 2014 | 65:16 | Dagger | Cerberus | Venom and Hurricane

 

Targets, Escort, Targets.  This one was a pain and turned me off to any future Juggernaut solos.  It was good I had AC or this one would have been even more painful with dual Targets.  The other attempts I did all had some combination of Targets and Devices which really drained equipment and was massively irritating with the slow movement speed.

 

Havoc w/ Lancer and Acolyte

 

capn233 | April 30 2014 | 56:57 | Giant | Cerberus | Lancer and Acolyte

 

Packages, Targets, Packages.  This one I did mainly to see how simple a Havoc solo would be.  This was with the Feneckus build, although shamefully not with Claymore.  I cheesed Phantoms with Acolyte into Havoc Strike.  Lancer for everything else.

 

Vorcha Soldier

 

capn233 | May 20 2014 | 45:07 | White Hazard | Collectors | Reegar

 

Escort, Escort, Escort.  Tried to do max cheese with Reegar and Flamer although I got grabbed the first time I tried it IIRC.  I also did a bad job of activating power block and I think screwing the IA DOT.

 

QMI

 

capn233 | May 22 2014 | 48:57 | Reactor Hazard | Cerberus | GPS

 

Hack, Hack, Devices.  GPS for stagger and DR removal for Arc Grenades.  Not a terrible map, although this is the only solo I have done on it.

 

TGI w/ PPR and Acolyte

 

capn233 | August 24 2014 | 46:28 | Ghost Hazard | Collectors | PPR and Acolyte

 

Hack, Escort, Hack.  This was just to do one late at night.  Tried to take a setup that would let me simply bang one out.  I don't think I fired the Acolyte once.  I only got 3WS though.

 

***

 

I didn't write down objectives for my early solos, just mainly kept track of which characters I had done, which is why they aren't listed for some of them.

 

The maps I don't have screens for so far are Condor, London and Reactor.  I did solos on those three when I decided to finish off all the waves in Map Mastery... basically already had them for most of the other maps.

 

edit: I used direct links from Photobucket, but it looks like some of them are resized kind of small, even though they are 1280x720 when I look at them in the album. I think I fixed it so they can be viewed more easily.

[cato potato]

Capn's Geth solo on Dagger (Hazard) means there are only three map/enemy combos that have no entries in the HoF - Collectors on Jade, Hydra and White (Hazard).

 

There are a surprising number of map/class combos that have no entries though - Condor/Engineer, Dagger/Adept or Engineer, Dagger (Hazard)/Infiltrator or Sentinel, Ghost (Hazard)/Adept or Engineer, Goddess/Sentinel, Hydra/Vanguard, Jade/Adept, London/Engineer or Vanguard, Reactor (Hazard)/Vanguard, Vancouver/Engineer, Rio/Adept, Sentinel or Vanguard.

 

Drell Adept on Jade against Collectors would cross off a couple of those and sounds quite good to me.

[ex-Clusum]

The Acolyte isn't needed for Phantoms IMO when you have Stim Packs, Havoc Strike to stagger them and Cryo Blast to force them to bubble but, yes, this is a lot faster to kill them with this gun than with the Wraith, especially with this damn DR they get on-host.

 

 

The platinum HOF is updated.

havoc strike seems to take too long which leaves me with a small amount of time to actually kill them and i ended up speccing only 3 points into it just for the travel utility it offers. raising bubble isn't perfect and you need to raise it twice cos she'll just flip the first time and go invisible.

 

hitscan guns ignore their barriers during bubble which is kinda cool i guess

 

that said i have never felt like i really need an anti phantom to get through any of the solo's, just gets tedious

[Loufi]

Capn's Geth solo on Dagger (Hazard) means there are only three map/enemy combos that have no entries in the HoF - Collectors on Jade, Hydra and White (Hazard).

 

There are a surprising number of map/class combos that have no entries though - Condor/Engineer, Dagger/Adept or Engineer, Dagger (Hazard)/Infiltrator or Sentinel, Ghost (Hazard)/Adept or Engineer, Goddess/Sentinel, Hydra/Vanguard, Jade/Adept, London/Engineer or Vanguard, Reactor (Hazard)/Vanguard, Vancouver/Engineer, Rio/Adept, Sentinel or Vanguard.

 

Drell Adept on Jade against Collectors would cross off a couple of those and sounds quite good to me.

Ha cato stop that, you're waking up the completionist in me, and I wanted to bury him   !

 

havoc strike seems to take too long which leaves me with a small amount of time to actually kill them and i ended up speccing only 3 points into it just for the travel utility it offers. raising bubble isn't perfect and you need to raise it twice cos she'll just flip the first time and go invisible.

 

hitscan guns ignore their barriers during bubble which is kinda cool i guess

 

that said i have never felt like i really need an anti phantom to get through any of the solo's, just gets tedious

I see, you hadn't enough points in Havoc Strike to reach the magic 1000N value needed to stagger Phantoms, what makes sense since you were fighting Collectors, with only one wave with Phantoms. I did a few days ago a solo against Cerberus with the Havoc using only the Wraith, that's what made me react I guess. Taking the Acolyte would have made my life easier but I purposedly didn't take a secondary for Phantoms, for more challenge.

[AW_FC_1986]

Drell Vanguard
AW_FC_1986 I September 29th 2014 I 60:33 I Dagger Hazard I Reaper I N7 Piranha

I think this one is still missing in the HoF.

[Loufi]

I think this one is still missing in the HoF.

Oh yes it's true ! Corrected  .

[cato potato]

Capn's Geth solo on Dagger (Hazard) means there are only three map/enemy combos that have no entries in the HoF - Collectors on Jade, Hydra and White (Hazard).

 

Actually, I can't seem to find any Condor solos against Cerberus either so that's another that has still to be completed.

[ex-Clusum]

Actually, I can't seem to find any Condor solos against Cerberus either so that's another that has still to be completed.

i have submitted one a while ago but it's not in the hof. prolly got lost when loufi added guns to it seeing as it is present in the hof backup i made right after finishing with browsing thru all of the entries, i did soldiers and adepts before he updated the hof

 

 

 

Batarian Soldier (Inferno Grenades aka Vindicator and Raptor)

ex-Clusum | September 1st 2014 | 69:46 | Condor | Cerberus

[cato potato]

i have submitted one a while ago but it's not in the hof. prolly got lost when loufi added guns to it seeing as it is present in the hof backup i made right after finishing with browsing thru all of the entries, i did soldiers and adepts before he updated the hof

 

 

Ah, good, I thought I had seen that somewhere. Was that for one of Prestacious's challenges? The setup looks too brutal to be anything but.

[ex-Clusum]

Ah, good, I thought I had seen that somewhere. Was that for one of Prestacious's challenges? The setup looks too brutal to be anything but.

dead on, he's a bloodlust maniac when it comes to challenges

[Loufi]

Capn's Geth solo on Dagger (Hazard) means there are only three map/enemy combos that have no entries in the HoF - Collectors on Jade, Hydra and White (Hazard).

White Hazard / Collectors isn't a big deal, it's weird that nobody has done that yet. On Jade and Hydra, it's an other story.

 

i have submitted one a while ago but it's not in the hof. prolly got lost when loufi added guns to it seeing as it is present in the hof backup i made right after finishing with browsing thru all of the entries, i did soldiers and adepts before he updated the hof

 

It's weird, I remember adding this solo and then take care of not erasing any one when I added the weapons. I will check tonight whether I haven't erased any other solo. 

[TheNightSlasher]

Smooth criminal did a hydra/coll solo with harrier TGI. I can't link it on mobile but it should be in his YT channel if anyone wants to search and add it to the hof.