The main hall of the Templars was in Denerim, if I recall correctly, for Ferelden. The small contingent at the Circle hardly compares.
I'd assume its similar throughout Thedas.
One contingent at the circle, with massive reinforcements awaiting them in country should they be needed or called.
That was why Meredith waited after all, she was gathering the templars OUTSIDE of the circle.
How do you feel about Templars when they failed to stop fourteen circles from rebelling and leaving the circles.
Asunder, page 400:
"they came hungry, with empty hands and fear in their eyes as well as tales of what was now happening in the other Circles. The Templars had cracked down. In some places they received the news of the White Spire weven before the mages there did and had struck preemptively. It made no difference. In each tower, the mages reacted the same way: They fought. Many died. The rest fled.
Sorry to disappoint but there wasn't some grandious rebellion where the Templars were easily defeated and thus the mages proved that they could be defied.
The mages just fought,died and those who survived crawled to Andoral's Reach without anything to their names.
Asunder, page 400:
"they came hungry, with empty hands and fear in their eyes as well as tales of what was now happening in the other Circles. The Templars had cracked down. In some places they received the news of the White Spire weven before the mages there did and had struck preemptively. It made no difference. In each tower, the mages reacted the same way: They fought. Many died. The rest fled.
Sorry to disappoint but there wasn't some grandious rebellion where the Templars were easily defeated and thus the mages proved that they could be defied.
The mages just fought,died and those who survived crawled to Andoral's Reach without anything to their names.
Like i said the Mages picked their enemy BRILLIANTLY.
Fiona, you are a genius.
Pissing off the army, that was designed to kill your kind.
Like i said the Mages picked their enemy BRILLIANTLY.
Fiona, you are a genius.
Pissing off the army, that was designed to kill your kind.
10/10 the kind of person we want leading their rebellion
10/10 the kind of person we want leading their rebellion
Like i said the Mages picked their enemy BRILLIANTLY.
Fiona, you are a genius.
Pissing off the army, that was designed to kill your kind.
"The surviving first enchanters, the Grand Enchanter among them, retreated to the fortress of Andoral's Reach. Most of the fifteen Circles rose against the templars, with thousands of mages gathering at Andoral's Reach in the following months. It is predicted that with hundreds of mages manning the battlements, they could off an army ten times their size."Asunder, page 400:
"they came hungry, with empty hands and fear in their eyes as well as tales of what was now happening in the other Circles. The Templars had cracked down. In some places they received the news of the White Spire weven before the mages there did and had struck preemptively. It made no difference. In each tower, the mages reacted the same way: They fought. Many died. The rest fled.
Sorry to disappoint but there wasn't some grandious rebellion where the Templars were easily defeated and thus the mages proved that they could be defied.
The mages just fought,died and those who survived crawled to Andoral's Reach without anything to their names.
Surely anyone would question their capabilities when they only defeat mages when they have every single advantage possible, better equipment, numbers, people's favor etc...
Do you think there ever was a general who deliberately crippled his army just to prove he had balls?
If the mages can't muster the same resources, that's their problem.
I mean what if they could perform a ritual to make the very land dry and heated and focus on Templar main base. We already know what Templars can do but magic has limitless potential.
No one would care because the Templars aren't farmer and if you tried to do that trick on the lands that provide for them, you'd also be attacking the source of food for whatever nation they are garrisoned in which means they'd also starve and everyone would turn against the mages.
Usually yes, but this was not a usual time. Which call to answer when there are literally hundreds of reports of need of reinforcement. Not to mention it takes a while for the messenger to get there.
There are, at most, two or three Circles in a country depending on its size. Where would these hundreds of reports come from?
Most of the Templars will be in the capital, protecting the Grand Cleric and people, able to respond to other parts of the nation if need be. And then there are those stationed in every town.
Even if the mages had soundly defeated the Templars, which isn't supported by Asunder as I previously proved, they barely managed to give them a bloody nose while their forces are entirely concentred in the Circles.
Actually I think Dasirimund circle was too isolated therefore it was the only circle that the Templars could stop the mages from rebelling.
That makes no sense. If we follow your logic that Templars can only win through reinforcements, then being isolated would give the mages the advantage.
Also, that Circle was named "Dairsmud" because it was house in the middle of the capital city of Rivain.
Altough, that didn't play a role. The letter clearly states the Seekers and Templars came from elsewhere (meaning no reinforcements) and that they started to win after summoning the Right of Annulment because that gave them free rein to kill absolutely everyone.
If anything, the mages were only winning because the Templars were handicapping themselves.
Nice b8 m8 I r8 8/10
R u mad?
"The surviving first enchanters, the Grand Enchanter among them, retreated to the fortress of Andoral's Reach. Most of the fifteen Circles rose against the templars, with thousands of mages gathering at Andoral's Reach in the following months. It is predicted that with hundreds of mages manning the battlements, they could off an army ten times their size."
Not disappointed at all.
So we're going to go with the assumption, and completely ignore the fact that they were being butchered everywhere else. Templars are resistant to magic and can nullify mana use from mages. This has nothing to do with numbers, even if it did the Templars far out number the mages, more than 10 to one, this is about the fact that the Templars force mages to fight on even footing with the mundanes, and their skill can't match the Templar's.
"The surviving first enchanters, the Grand Enchanter among them, retreated to the fortress of Andoral's Reach. Most of the fifteen Circles rose against the templars, with thousands of mages gathering at Andoral's Reach in the following months. It is predicted that with hundreds of mages manning the battlements, they could off an army ten times their size."
Not disappointed at all.
Yeah, now they are fighting from a fortified position. That strengthens them; the same would happen if it was the Templars inside and the mages making a siege.
It doesn't change the fact they lost in every Circle.
Altough, that didn't play a role. The letter clearly states the Seekers and Templars came from elsewhere (meaning no reinforcements) and that they started to win after summoning the Right of Annulment because that gave them free rein to kill absolutely everyone.
If anything, the mages were only winning because the Templars were handicapping themselves.
Just to clarify, the Templars and Seekers arrived from Ayesleigh, across the bay.
Also, while that Circle was in Dairsmuid, the letter Rivella wrote mentioned that the Circle was "small and isolated."
Yeah, now they are fighting from a fortified position. That strengthens them; the same would happen if it was the Templars inside and the mages making a siege.
It doesn't change the fact they lost in every Circle.
I wouldn't say that necessarily. There were probably some who defeated their Templars in house, but decided to rendesvous with the rest of the mages in Andoral's Reach.
It doesn't change the fact they lost in every Circle.
If even anything this appears to be a "last stand" type of deal anyway.
The Mage rebellion dies on the vine, or that was what i got from Asunder.
I mean really all they did was gather the traitors in one location.
Yeah, now they are fighting from a fortified position. That strengthens them; the same would happen if it was the Templars inside and the mages making a siege.
It doesn't change the fact they lost in every Circle.
Lol from a Fiona thread to an argument about Kirkwall and mage's.
Out of curiosity do you support the mages because of their "Fire and Blood" approach to anything that looks funny at them?
If even anything this appears to be a "last stand" type of deal anyway.
The Mage rebellion dies on the vine, or that was what i got from Asunder.
I mean really all they did was gather the traitors in one location.
Quite considerate of them. Putting them all in one place fore easy disposal.
Lol from a Fiona thread to an argument about Kirkwall and mage's.
Well who wants to talk about that bland mary sue?
There are more interesting subjects out there.
Out of curiosity do you support the mages because of their "Fire and Blood" approach to anything that looks funny at them?
Asking the thread in general, or just Lulupab?
Well who wants to talk about that bland mary sue?
There are more interesting subjects out there.
Knowing our luck she'll probably turn out to be the only OTHER survivor of the Breach with all Quizzie's powers and none of the player agency.
I hope they do meet, but Alistair remains totally ignorant of his true parentage.
Alistair: Grand Enchanter, it is an honour to meet you.
Fiona: (taken aback) My liege, I ... I didn't expect you to be such ... such a polite young man.
Alistair: Uh, thank you?
Fiona: You ... you so resemble your father. Except in the eyes. You have ... such nice eyes.
Alistair: You knew my father?
Fiona: (sadly) Yes, when I was a Warden. I .... I'm sorry, I need to go.
*Inquisitor stands nearby, staring into space as player screams impotently at the screen*
Knowing our luck she'll probably turn out to be the only OTHER survivor of the Breach with all Quizzie's powers and none of the player agency.
No, even worse. I'm scared Adrian is gonna be the one living. I'd take Fiona over Adrian any day of the week.
I support autonomy of circles. Mages should rule over themselves and Templar should solely exist for the reason they exist. Keep the circles separated from the world and protect the circle from rest of the world. Mages are vital for Thedas's survival.Out of curiosity do you support the mages because of their "Fire and Blood" approach to anything that looks funny at them?
No, even worse. I'm scared Adrian is gonna be the one living. I'd take Fiona over Adrian any day of the week.
Fiona AND Adrian are the only other survivors of the Breach with all of Quizzie's powers and none of the player agency.
We don't know that, given the shape of circles in two games mages killed enough to make a way and escape and this is the worst case scenario mind you and it could have been turned out better.
But we do know that the Templars in white spire were slaughtered/ Direct quote "By the time Seeker Lambert returned to White Spire, most of the templars had been slaughtered."
Would you call Kirkwall a victory? Many mages survived there as well.
The text gives the impression they were basically refugees.
A surprise attack from within backed by nearly every First Enchanter. Hardly fair.
I hope they do meet, but Alistair remains totally ignorant of his true parentage.
Alistair: Grand Enchanter, it is an honour to meet you.
Fiona: (taken aback) My liege, I ... I didn't expect you to be such ... such a polite young man.
Alistair: Uh, thank you?
Fiona: You ... you so resemble your father. i .... I'm sorry, I need to go.
*Inquisitor stands nearby, staring into space as player screams impotently at the screen*
I wonder if the Inquizzy can kill the elf in front of Alistair...
That would just be awesome...
I would be so happy.
Retour en haut