Now that 5th Edition is out and the warlock is actually not **** does anyone plan on converting the base class?
5th Edition
#1
Posté 02 septembre 2014 - 07:35
#2
Posté 02 septembre 2014 - 10:35
Since you're willing to swear about it, you must have strong feelings about the warlock. Therefore I nominate you to convert the class, to ensure you get something you are happy with.
#3
Posté 02 septembre 2014 - 03:43
The 5th edition has undergone one or two significant changes, so conversion of those classes back to 3rd edition may not be balanced.
#4
Posté 03 septembre 2014 - 06:48
The warlock isn't too bad with Warlock Buddy. Apparently even better with Kaedrin's pack.
But if you want a better warlock, you don't have to go 5th edition. Just create new spells or whatever you want for it.
#5
Posté 03 septembre 2014 - 08:34
I mucked around with making elritch blast have a cool down time but could never get limited spells working, with the reserve casting feats available the class is largely redundant in 3.5 anyway.
#6
Posté 03 septembre 2014 - 06:39
I mucked around with making elritch blast have a cool down time but could never get limited spells working, with the reserve casting feats available the class is largely redundant in 3.5 anyway.
Only if using Kaedrin's, and the blast is usually quite a bit more powerful than reserve feats. Reserve feats can get what at best? 9d6 against a single opponent? Warlock blast can get somewhere in the region of 15(+)d6? not to mention Eldritch Master, and change damage type and/or add extra properties and affect multiple opponents.
#7
Posté 04 septembre 2014 - 01:44
I thought 4th edition was supposed to blow up the entire universe and melt it together and effectively ruin the game for all of us. Did it? Do fighters have some lame stamina limit now? And how did 5th come out so fast after? I've still been finishing my campaigns with an allusion to a coming global storm as others have, which is a reference to 4th editions apocalypse. What happened?? It already passed?
#8
Posté 04 septembre 2014 - 01:56
I thought 4th edition was supposed to blow up the entire universe and melt it together and effectively ruin the game for all of us. Did it? Do fighters have some lame stamina limit now? And how did 5th come out so fast after? I've still been finishing my campaigns with an allusion to a coming global storm as others have, which is a reference to 4th editions apocalypse. What happened?? It already passed?
4th edition did that, the big event was the "Spellplague" http://forgottenreal...iki/Spellplague. It was... not well received, that's why 5th ed came out so fast. 5th edition apparently basically writes the 4th ed story out of existence storywise.
#9
Posté 04 septembre 2014 - 02:43
#10
Posté 04 septembre 2014 - 02:44
#11
Posté 04 septembre 2014 - 12:37
As far as world changes, Ao steps in and basically undoes all the 4th ed changes by "rewriting thr Tablets of Fate". It's a deus ex machina of "All that stuff? Yeah, that never happened." The changeover storyline is called "The Sundering" and is apparently still going on.Haha saw that coming. Good to correct mistakes I guess. So how has fifth changed the world? And game play?
As far as mechanics, I havnt looked but I've heard it draws from the various pre-4th editions.
#12
Posté 04 septembre 2014 - 02:46
The biggest change that caught my eye is the change to BAB; it goes up much more gradually now. Probably a good thing, I think.
#13
Posté 04 septembre 2014 - 08:10
Not every class receives additional attacks due to BAB, which is long overdue. BUT, that same feature, among others, means that a nwn2 conversion would be REALLY difficult unless we got source-code access.
Otoh, if they wanted to keep the franchise running, updated to 5e, I think we've got an argument that this could be pulled out of legacy-mode and into an updated product.
//dead horse, necromancy, warmaces, etc etc
#14
Posté 04 septembre 2014 - 08:45
The only thing you can't write out of the game is all the inbuilt d20 rolls for attacks and such. I imagine a 5th edition port would be quite feasible, it's more a matter of why invest the effort for something so close to what we already have in nwn2? If it just comes as an attempt to balance things out between the classes/levels then dnd isn't a good platform to begin with.
#15
Posté 04 septembre 2014 - 09:32
There's a vast amount of hardcoded stuff that would be worth fixing. I had a pro game coder work up an AI for nwn2 that would have let us have huge-gantic battles w/o crashing a PW...but because the AI is hardcoded, it would have had to run on top of the already-existing AI which is so horrid that PW's start lagging with 20-30 enemies spawned and you can tell a baddie has been spawned in your area b/c of the momentary glitch in running speed. So that's not about dnd, that's about code.
I like what I see in 5e but don't see a user-port as practical or functional.
#16
Posté 04 septembre 2014 - 09:32
I thought 4th edition was supposed to blow up the entire universe and melt it together and effectively ruin the game for all of us. Did it? Do fighters have some lame stamina limit now? And how did 5th come out so fast after? I've still been finishing my campaigns with an allusion to a coming global storm as others have, which is a reference to 4th editions apocalypse. What happened?? It already passed?
Soon after the Spellplague, a mighty magic long forgotten re emerged, the likes of which haven't been seen in eons. The ancients referred to this magic as "Newhart." Waking from a slumber, in which the Spellplague evil was embedded within a nightmare, the PC sat up in bed and saw that they were next to the lovely Suzanne Pleshette. The magic of Newhart had set the universes upon their true courses.
(apologies to non USA readers, or young readers, for the reference)
- kamal_ aime ceci
#17
Posté 04 septembre 2014 - 09:37
Man, and I thought *I* was old... ![]()
#18
Posté 05 septembre 2014 - 12:17
Soon after the Spellplague, a mighty magic long forgotten re emerged, the likes of which haven't been seen in eons. The ancients referred to this magic a "Newhart." Waking from a slumber, in which the Spellplague evil was embedded within a nightmare, the PC sat up in bed and saw that they were next to the lovely Suzanne Pleshette. The magic of Newhart had set the universes upon their true courses.
"Hi, I'm Ao; this is my brother Darryl, and this is my other brother Darryl..."





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