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[The Ascendant]

In preparation for DA:I am gonna replay all the games and DLC (since I have the time) and I've come to a pause when it come to creating my DA Warden. All the Origins are interesting, introducing us to the varied cultural, religious and racial diversity in Ferelden and Thedas. Which of these should be my canon Warden?

Human Noble: Provides a personal reason to fight Howe and Loghain, gives you a place of respect in Ferelden and the chance to become co-ruler of the country depending on your choices.

Mage: Introduces the dangers and prejudices many magi face in Thedas, from both demons and normal people. Gives you an opportunity to expand your horizons and show everyone that mages can be trusted.

City Elf: An extremely contentious choice showing the plight many city elves face in a human dominant world, dealing with racism and and abuse, you can become a hero for elves everywhere and improve the life for your people.

Dalish Elf: Highlights the cultural division between elves and demonstrates how much they have lost to humans, their culture, their supposed immortality and homelands. Your chance to represent your culture and help make a home for them is an interesting development.

Dwarf Commoner: Shows the stark inequality that exists in Orzammar society, a classic rags to riches story if you play your cards right.

Dwarf Noble: A fall from grace but with an easily astonishing rise to glory as well. This inroduces the plight of the Dwarves, their endless war with the darkspawn and the ruthlessness of Dwarven politics both deadly.Joining the Wardens as a Dwarf provides a new insight into your ancient enemy the darkspawn and with a boon to get help from the surface, you can help ensure that Orzammar dosn't fade away.

So who do you think is the most deserving to have a Warden? The embattled and rigid Dwarves? The impoverished and oppressed elves? Or the numerous but divided humans? Fell free to comment or add on. Your thoughts are appreciated.

[Willowhugger]

It's a tough call.

 

My general viewpoint is you should either do Mage Warden and Mage Hawke.

Or Cousland and Rogue/Warrior Hawke.

 

Doing an Elf is good but there's a disconnect from II. Maybe a Dalish Elf if you romance Merril.

[The Ascendant]

Right now I leaning towards a Dwarf Noble warrior, because 1) Make a life for my son(the one with Mardy), 2) dealing with my brothers, making Bhelen king is the best for Orzammar and my boon to get military aid does prove useful, unlike Horrowmont, 3) becoming a Paragon isn't a shabby retirement plan, 4)the Dwarves really need a break, their society may not be perfect, but they literally have their backs against the wall with the Darkspawn. They've been fighting them non stop, never mind five Blights.

For DA2 I gonna have a Male Mage Hawke who supports Mages and to make things interesting I'll have a female Qunari Warrior. Hooray! Racial and Cultural diversity!

P.S. I've been watching the Hobbit movies lately and I've got a lot more respect for Dwarves lately. Thorin Aeducan is a pretty cool name right?

A chance at immortality isn't bad either, even if I have to become a Golem. Oh well there are worse fates than being made of stone/steel and immortal.  

[DRTJR]

Go for a City Elf if your going for an Elf in Inquisition, or anything because City Elf is an awesome (story telling option.)

[Yinello]

I need a warden, I'm holding out for a warden

'Til the end of the Blight

 

Sorry, couldn't help myself. I think Dwarf Noble could be awesome seeing as it's Orlais.

[Mistic]

That depends on the question more than the Wardens themselves. My two cents:

 

a) Who is more fitting to be a Grey Warden?

 

-Human Noble is admired and known to be good at what they do. Duncan had his eyes set on them.

-City Elf was a bit unknown to Duncan, but their mother was badass and a previous Warden candidate.

-Mages are always useful, so useful that the Wardens had to reach an agreement with the Chantry not to take too many.

-Dwarven Noble has been trained for leadership and has experience fighting darkspawn. Nuff said.

-Dwarven Casteless surprised everyone, even Duncan, by beating the best warriors Orzammar had to offer.

-Dalish Elf resisted the taint for a long time before being rescued. I'ts like having a neon sign saying: "I can survive the Joining!"

 

Who will get more from being a Warden? What can they change? What can't they change?

 

-Human Noble will get their vengeance personally and can marry into royalty (riches > rags > riches again). If they aren't there, Howe will always die and their brother will always live and continue the line.

-City Elf can save their father personally and get more rights for their brethren. If they aren't there, the hahren can be saved and as long as Alistair is king, elves can get a better life.

-Mages can get more power than any other of their Circle companions. If they aren't there, well, the Circle can still be saved. The boon seems to have never been implemented.

-Dwarven Noble will never get to be the ruler of Orzammar, although they can become paragon and help depose their brother. If they aren't there, others will choose Orzammar's destiny.

-Dwarven Casteless will become Paragon, thus found their own noble house, and have the chance to help their sister's lover to get the throne. If they aren't there, others can choose Orzammar's (and their family's) destiny.

-Dalish Elf won't return to their clan. The boon to give some lands to the Dalish was mentioned, but according to King Alistair it didn't end well. If they aren't there or not, it doesn't matter. Their clan's destiny will be decided by Hawke in DA2.

[DarthLaxian]

*snip*

 

So who do you think is the most deserving to have a Warden? The embattled and rigid Dwarves? The impoverished and oppressed elves? Or the numerous but divided humans? Fell free to comment or add on. Your thoughts are appreciated.

 

Hey,

 

for me it is the mages all the way (they are the only "race" actively reviled, hated and feared, they need fair representation in the world - a hero goes a long way here IMHO...yes, the city-elfs have it bad, too but they are not actively persecuted and can still make something out of themselfes and they have more freedom than mages do)

 

Note: If I had not read your posting, I would have said:

 

No one (unless there is a blight) - because I dissagree with the Grey Wardens about tainting people (recruits) when there is no blight (I would "raid" the prisons when there is one, offering redemption to the inmates (people on death row would like an out I'd think and fighting the darkspawn at least offers the chance of survival - as long as you don't strike the final blow...sitting in a cell does not)...hell, Ferelden (other nations probably have one, too) even has a mage prison, so you would even get mages if the situation arises (!))

 

greetings LAX

[The Ascendant]

Hey,

 

for me it is the mages all the way (they are the only "race" actively reviled, hated and feared, they need fair representation in the world - a hero goes a long way here IMHO...yes, the city-elfs have it bad, too but they are not actively persecuted and can still make something out of themselfes and they have more freedom than mages do)

 

Note: If I had not read your posting, I would have said:

 

No one (unless there is a blight) - because I dissagree with the Grey Wardens about tainting people (recruits) when there is no blight (I would "raid" the prisons when there is one, offering redemption to the inmates (people on death row would like an out I'd think and fighting the darkspawn at least offers the chance of survival - as long as you don't strike the final blow...sitting in a cell does not)...hell, Ferelden (other nations probably have one, too) even has a mage prison, so you would even get mages if the situation arises (!))

 

greetings LAX

My Mage Hawke covers up the hero for mages part. But I am thinking about Origins for now. Any ideas. While I agree that mages need a hero, having too many mages as a hero could make thinhs a wee bit boring. There are other problems in the world other than demons and magic.

[raging_monkey]

Mage protag in both due to it having context, familial relations and try to change the stigma of magic that the series shoehorns

[Navasha]

Well the Human Noble has the greatest number of possible outcomes in DA:O.   However, that is probably the least choice if cultural diversity is your goal.   Personally, I love the idea of the Dalish warden myself.   The one group that most in Ferelden either fear or despise produces the hero that rises up to save them all is the best story for me personally.   

 

I also tend to use a mod that makes a dalish mage a possibility, so I kind of get both sides of that story when playing.   Of course, that won't translate to the Keep too well.

[katerinafm]

Depends on what choices you will make.

 

If you pick a noble, you could take advantage of that by becoming royalty. If you don't, then the origin is not as important.

 

The dalish elf is a good choice too, because the Warden was in contact with the Eluvians and we know the Eluvians are a pretty big deal.

 

Mage is important in DA2, but not so much in DAO since nobody really points it out.

[BraveVesperia]

It's a tough one. Although Dalish is my favourite background, the way mages are demonised in Thedas makes me feel that one of them should be the hero of the story. But... no one doubts a mage's ability to fight, so it wouldn't be a huge surprise that a mage would have the ability to slay an archdemon.

 

I think maybe the best would be a city elf or casteless dwarf, since they are the most downtrodden in society and considered the most worthless. Becoming the hero of Ferelden proves that they are more than just a beggar/thief/thug and represents more than just their own pride.

[Mistic]

My Mage Hawke covers up the hero for mages part. But I am thinking about Origins for now. Any ideas. While I agree that mages need a hero, having too many mages as a hero could make thinhs a wee bit boring. There are other problems in the world other than demons and magic.

 

If you want variety, are you going by races too? Religions? Hawke will always cover the Human side (and possibly the Andrastian too), so maybe you want variety there too? Counting Inquisition, of course.

[Elfyoth]

Not you it seems. ;-)

[Icy Magebane]

You should probably go with Dalish Elf or Elven Mage... but don't waste your time on elf-centric boons that sound unrealistic to begin with.  I always choose Chancellor and no boon for my mages, although as a Dalish I'd choose no boon and say that they will "travel."  The intent behind that is to find the Sabrae Clan, even if the game won't actually let that happen...

[polemists02]

I think it depends and many have made great points so I will just add my thoughts. You should go read the starter backgrounds for DAI heroes. I was heavily leaning one way until I read one that just made me go wow I want to play that. Since I assume your replaying it to lead up to DAI. Think about what kind of world you want your warden to leave behind or which(if any) cause or causes you may want to take up in the new game.

[The Ascendant]

If you want variety, are you going by races too? Religions? Hawke will always cover the Human side (and possibly the Andrastian too), so maybe you want variety there too? Counting Inquisition, of course.

I am. Hence my inclination towards a Dwarf Noble in Origins and a Qunari Female Warrior for Inquisition. I don't hate elves but I think they and humans get too much focus. We now next to nothing about Qunari society and there is literally only two dwarven cities in the entire world. I realize that they are more widespread but come on. A more even viewpoint would be nice.

[Mistic]

I am. Hence my inclination towards a Dwarf Noble in Origins and a Qunari Female Warrior for Inquisition. I don't hate elves but I think they and humans get too much focus. We now next to nothing about Qunari society and there is literally only two dwarven cities in the entire world. I realize that they are more widespread but come on. A more even viewpoint would be nice.

 

It's not a bad idea. The only problem I see with Qunari so far is that the character in Inquisition is going to be Vashoth. Not because of being Vashoth per se, but because we know next to nothing about them, their culture, their view point, etc. Of course, we didn't know anything about any race in DA:O either, but the playable origins were an excellent way to showcase the setting... and its differences.

 

I will no doubt play Qunari in DA:I, but I will probably do so after investigating the game a bit with other characters. Hey, who knows how things are going to turn out. I had important mage and Dwarf Wardens, but my personal "canon" is with a female Dalish Elf, despite being my least favourite origin. But the roleplaying was brutal, and I discovered a lot thanks to it.

 

Also, have you played with other origins before? Are you looking for something new?

[dsl08002]

For me its cousland warden. Seems more involved in DAO story than the other origins

[Hadeedak]

Dwarf noble is worth it.

 

For me, it's all about the casteless (I cheered the first time my warden took her helmet off to show her tattoos), but both the dwarves have really solid stories. And I'm not just saying that 'cause dwarves.

 

I feel like the dwarves' prolonged contact with darkspawn and their knowledge of the enemy can add a lot to your character in Origins. That, and the fact that you can really do a lot for your family with either origin... Kind of.

[DarkKnightHolmes]

Mage, Dalish/City elf or dwarven commoner for me.

 

Their life are more tragic compared to the Human/Dwarf Nobles (before the start of the game anyway) and it feels more rewarding to play as someone who has been discriminated or treated like crap to become the heroes.

[ADeadDiehard]

I go Cousland just to make becoming brothers with Nathaniel that much better.

I tried Amell once just to free the cirlcle. That was fun, I guess...

[frylock23]

Given what we know about the next two games, this will be the only chance the City Elves will have for one of their own to rise to glory in Thedas. Just pointing that out ...

 

And my own City Elf warden was quite possibly the most fun out of all my wardens.

[dragonflight288]

Dwarf noble is my favorite. To me it makes sense. It's a great fall from grace, and then rise to glory story, literally losing everything one is. As the noble is erased from the memories, they literally no longer exist in Orzammar durng the game, and yet they can become a paragon and rise up in the ranks again.

 

Also, the dwarven noble has just been commissioned as Orzammar's Commander in their never ending war against darkspawn. He has already proven is prowess and ability in fighting the darkspawn, otherwise he'd never be appointed by the Assembly. He has leadership skills and experience fighting darkspawn, something none of the other origins have both of. I mean, sure the Dalish will fight some darkspawn before joining, the Human noble has leadership skills and is being entrusted with the family's keep and lands, but none of the other origins have both accomplished leader AND fighting experience.