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[Dale]

Interesting discussions about how the first reaper (Harbie) was formed.   Likely after many "cycles" Leviathan was targeted.

 

Since the OP's questions have been answered,  I see others have asked questions here too.   I have a question also.

 

The HANAR:

• trained Thane
• have rescued the Drell species
• are space faring and seem to sell weapons & such

...then did I miss something?   Where were they in the final battle (or even assisting)?   I recall in ME3 (embassies) the indoctrinated one, but doubtful they are ALL that way.  Are they all big stupid jellyfish, Blasto?

[JamesFaith]

Interesting discussions about how the first reaper (Harbie) was formed.   Likely after many "cycles" Leviathan was targeted.

 

Since the OP's questions have been answered,  I see others have asked questions here too.   I have a question also.

 

The HANAR:

• trained Thane
• have rescued the Drell species
• are space faring and seem to sell weapons & such

...then did I miss something?   Where were they in the final battle (or even assisting)?   I recall in ME3 (embassies) the indoctrinated one, but doubtful they are ALL that way.  Are they all big stupid jellyfish, Blasto?

 

 

They participated - Hanar and Drell forces asset for saving Kahje.

 

And if Kahje is invaded, Hanar small fleet and Drell specialists have their own bigger problems. 

[Dale]

They participated - Hanar and Drell forces asset for saving Kahje.

 

And if Kahje is invaded, Hanar small fleet and Drell specialists have their own bigger problems. 

Thank you kind sir!

[Basher of Glory]

Very often it was mentioned, that the reapers "only" harvest advanced races and leave the "primitive-ones" alone.... until the next cycle.

 

Have we ever seen or heard about a "primitive race" in ME 3 which existed when Shepard was active?

[Excella Gionne]

Hanar's train Drells? So, why isn't there a Hanar in the Multiplayer? They're clearly much better than drells if they're training them. Also, can hanars do flips like drells?

[KaiserShep]

Very often it was mentioned, that the reapers "only" harvest advanced races and leave the "primitive-ones" alone.... until the next cycle.

 

Have we ever seen or heard about a "primitive race" in ME 3 which existed when Shepard was active?

 

The only one that really counts is the yagh, since they are pre-space flight during the events of Shepard's adventures.

[Dale]

Correct me if I'm wrong but ---

 

Is Dr Chocolate & Dr Kenson the same?   If not, I could swear they are sisters.   They certainly seem to have the same "prim & proper" British voice. 

[Basher of Glory]

The only one that really counts is the yagh, since they are pre-space flight during the events of Shepard's adventures.

Are these the same as "The Shadow Broker" in ME2 and this creature in the facility where the Krogan female was kept by the Salarians

(Shep comments this "...look, the next shadow broker" and Liara replies"...not funny, not funny at all!)?

[SporkFu]

Are these the same as "The Shadow Broker" in ME2 and this creature in the facility where the Krogan female was kept by the Salarians

(Shep comments this "...look, the next shadow broker" and Liara replies"...not funny, not funny at all!)?

That's them. It's mentioned in ME3 somewhere -- a conversation between shep and Hackett? -- that the reapers are leaving the yagh homeworld alone, implying that the reapers consider them too primitive to harvest this time around. 

[Farangbaa]

Raloi are spared as well, I think.

 

Sparing the Yahg is a collossal mistake btw, but whatever

[caradoc2000]

It's mentioned in ME3 somewhere -- a conversation between shep and Hackett? -- that the reapers are leaving the yagh homeworld alone, implying that the reapers consider them too primitive to harvest this time around.

Indeed, it is in one of the conversations between Shepard and Hackett, that the latter mentions the reapers leaving Parnack (yahg homeworld) alone.

[Daemul]

The Raloi will be harvested with the rest. They destroyed all their satellites and observation equipment in orbit around their planet in the hope that the Reapers would think that they were primitive and leave them alone. That's obviously not going to work out for them though.

On the Yagh, judging from the Refuse ending they did not survive either. They and the Raloi were probably harvested last since they posed no threat to the Reapers.

[Daemul]

Indeed, it is in one of the conversations between Shepard and Hackett, that the latter mentions the reapers leaving Parnack (yahg homeworld) alone, for the time being.

Had to add something at the end there

[SporkFu]

Well they have to leave something alive for the next cycle. Look at how many species were left alone during the prothean cycle. 

[voteDC]

1. The opening pays out pretty much the same. Arrival still happened, only it was a team of marines under Hackett's command who rescued Kenson and blew up the relay. Shepard is still under arrest, though it's assumed to be for their Cerberus ties (can't remember if it's ever stated).

This has always annoyed me to be honest.

I wasn't even allowed to take Thane or Kasumi on the mission, people whose entire careers would be filled with quietly breaking into places. Nope, I had to go it alone.

Yet if you don't play the dlc Hackett is willing to send in a squad of marines?

[Daemul]

Well they have to leave something alive for the next cycle. Look at how many species were left alone during the prothean cycle.

The species they left behind were primitive ones though, species still living in caves, not species who are at the same technological level as we Humans are at this current moment in RL, which the Raloi are and the Yahg are close to being.

[Iakus]

 
Yet if you don't play the dlc Hackett is willing to send in a squad of marines?

According to ME3, yeah

 

103rd Marine Divison

 

Military Strength: -50
 

Admiral Hackett dispatched marines to the planet Aratoht to rescue a deep cover agent, Dr. Amanda Kenson. The teams were killed in an explosion that wiped out both the colony and the system's relay. The Alliance spent weeks piecing together scattered radio transmissions, learning that the marines felt they had no choice but to send an asteroid into the relay to prevent invasion by the Reapers. While it bought the Alliance some time, the men and women lost on the mission were a severe blow to the 103rd Marine Corps.

[CaIIisto]

Sparing the Yahg is a collossal mistake btw, but whatever

It'll give the Krogan something to do.......!

[Basher of Glory]

Some minutes ago I destroyed that reaper on Ranoch (...or the ike; Quarrian homeworld).... again.

 

As we all know, we need the Normandy AND the entire Quarrian fleet to succeed.

 

Back in ME 1 we needed the entire Alliance fleet and the Asari flagship Destiny Ascension to defeat Sovereign, not to mention the Citadel defences.

 

During the endfight in ME 3 Shep has to destroy two reapers:

1) For the first (a destroyer, IIRC) she uses a "heavy weapon" which looks like the "Cain" from ME 2

2) For the second she has to fire some rockets, "Javelins", mounted on a truck.

 

Was it explained somewhere, how it was possible to destroy reapers with normal stuff, while others required entire fleets?

[themikefest]

Some minutes ago I destroyed that reaper on Ranoch (...or the ike; Quarrian homeworld).... again.

 

As we all know, we need the Normandy AND the entire Quarrian fleet to succeed.

Nope. Only 5 or 6 Quarian ships fired at the reaper on Rannoch

 

 

Back in ME 1 we needed the entire Alliance fleet and the Asari flagship Destiny Ascension to defeat Sovereign, not to mention the Citadel defences.

Nope. I killed the council, so the Destiny Ascension had nothing to do with defeating Sovereign. And though I've never saved the council, If the Destiny Ascension is saved, it doesn't help in defeating Sovereign or at least its not seen helping defeat Sovereign.

[Basher of Glory]

Nevertheless, on Ranoch were at least "some" ships and on the Citadel in ME 1- with or without the Asari ship - the fleet of the Alliance engaged.

 

In both battles we had - in my opinion - substantially more firepower than in the mentioned fights in London.

[Dale]

Some minutes ago I destroyed that reaper on Ranoch (...or the ike; Quarrian homeworld).... again.

 

As we all know, we need the Normandy AND the entire Quarrian fleet to succeed.

 

Back in ME 1 we needed the entire Alliance fleet and the Asari flagship Destiny Ascension to defeat Sovereign, not to mention the Citadel defences.

 

During the endfight in ME 3 Shep has to destroy two reapers:

1) For the first (a destroyer, IIRC) she uses a "heavy weapon" which looks like the "Cain" from ME 2

2) For the second she has to fire some rockets, "Javelins", mounted on a truck.

 

Was it explained somewhere, how it was possible to destroy reapers with normal stuff, while others required entire fleets?

Yep, I wondered about that too after hearing “reapers are imperious to dreadnaught fire”.   Looks like they’re not.   I’m also wondering where the NUKES were.    Seems silly to have 10,000 ships fire “standard” ordinance at each other.   A few well-placed tactical fusion nukes would have vaporized lots of reapers (including the other way around too).   Laser fire?   Really!   And hearing explosions in a vacuum!  But hey, if you can find organic medkids on a Geth ship, then it’s obvious it’s all fun-and-games.

 

BTY – in ME1 you can play it both ways – save the Destiny Ascension or let it be destroyed (with the jerk council aboard – with 10,000 other people).   SPORKFU tells me that saving it gives a few more war assets in ME3.   Saving the D.A. will sacrifice some ships that could be used instead to take out superquid in ME1.    My thinking was (at the time) “this is a BATTLE -- so save the council for the upcoming WAR”.   Turns out they were prejudiced do-nothing  jerks so I let them die in the next play through.

[themikefest]

Thats because the fleets were engaged with the reaper fleets above Earth. The ground forces dealt with the destroyer in London

[CaIIisto]

 

2) For the second she has to fire some rockets, "Javelins", mounted on a truck.

 

Was it explained somewhere, how it was possible to destroy reapers with normal stuff, while others required entire fleets?

 

Simple answer to this one.

 

Sometimes the Reapers were wearing plot armour. Other times, not. 

 

Equally, those were NOT normal rockets, those were plot-Javelins. Nothing can withstand those babies.

[themikefest]

During the endfight in ME 3 Shep has to destroy two reapers:

1) For the first (a destroyer, IIRC) she uses a "heavy weapon" which looks like the "Cain" from ME 2

2) For the second she has to fire some rockets, "Javelins", mounted on a truck.

 

Was it explained somewhere, how it was possible to destroy reapers with normal stuff, while others required entire fleets?

1) Yes its a cain and no I don't have an answer as to why it can defeat the Hades Cannon, but not a destroyer. I guess the plot demanded it to happen that way.

 

2) The Thannix missile. Another one those looks cool moments.

 

It is possible to destroy the reapers with regular weapons. The Turians were able to destroy several Capital ships

 

Spoiler

The Battle of Palaven

When Taetrus fell, the turians knew little about the Reapers except that they wanted to enrage the turians. Staying calm, the turians massed in force around Palaven, their homeworld. Fleet Admiral Irix Coronati, in what became known as the "Fifteen-Minute Plan," stationed only two carriers, Undaunted and Resolute, near the system's relay. When the Reaper fleet emerged, the carriers launched swarms of unmanned fighters and spy drones. These were quickly destroyed, but the drones transmitted vital data on the Reapers' effective range, fleet composition, and exact location. The turians' other ships then deployed to defend the system in earnest.

Knowing that the Reapers' weapons had a longer effective range than any of his own, Coronati made a short, daring FTL jump--landing his dreadnoughts in the middle of the Reaper fleet. The dreadnoughts then turned to line up their main guns on the Reapers, which also needed to turn to fire on the turians. This ploy used the Reapers' size against them--because they could turn faster, the turian dreadnoughts locked targets first, and their concentrated firepower downed several Reaper capital ships.

The Reapers countered instantly. Their destroyers performed a jump of their own to the skies above Palaven, beginning orbital strikes on turian cities. The turians, forced to defend the planet, found themselves in a pitched battle far from the relay, from which emerged a seemingly endless line of Reaper ships. After massive casualties, Coronati ordered retreat.

The turians insist that Palaven is not lost--the battle has merely moved to the ground. Reaper troop transports have dumped hordes of husks to capture Palaven's inhabitants, but met with little success. Reaper capital ships are destroying city after city. But much of the turian fleet is still operable, and the citizenry is heavily armed. The turians refuse to be intimidated.