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[themikefest]

Why wouldn't they repair that?

I have no idea. We don't know if they do. The only thing that is known is they're destroyed or whatever in the next cycle.

[AlanC9]

Kinetic barriers are useless against energy attacks of any kind.  So yeah, nukes would be a wonderful weapon to use against Reapers.

It doesn't matter. All we'd ever get out of this discussion is that Bio has yet another tech lore problem. Bio didn't want nukes to be useful in the setting because the space battles would look weird. Therefore.... but you don't need me to tell you this.

[AlanC9]

I have no idea. We don't know if they do. The only thing that is known is they're destroyed or whatever in the next cycle.

I just don't get why you'd speculate that they might forget to repair it. What's that based on?

[KaiserShep]

Maybe it's like in ancient times, when man did not have irons with auto-off before leaving his primitive cave, and the reapers left before remembering to fix everything.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

My next point:

 

As we all know after the conversation with the "Catalyst"-child, it IS the Citadel. It governs the reapers and invented the "solution" called "harvest".

Because it IS the citadel, it can control anything what happens there. The council, the population, C-sec... all we know about the Citadel could be developed with the (silent) approval of the Catalyst.

 

Why did it send -respectively call - the Sovereign and Saren to attack the Citadel - so to speak to attack itself? Just to open that "gate" for the rest of the reapers? If it is powerful "beyond any comprehension" of all organic lifeforms, why does it need an indoctrinated spectre and the Sovereign to make itself up for it's creations? 

Which explanation did I forget or not understand?

 

There are mysterious stories within the Mass Effect Universe that were not told by the authors.

 

 

 

http://forum.bioware...ogy/?p=17211052

[KaiserShep]

Sovereign: YOU NEED HELP.

 

Shepard. You need help!

[themikefest]

I just don't get why you'd speculate that they might forget to repair it. What's that based on?

I never said they forgot. Right? Maybe they tried to fix it and failed for whatever reason. Right? We have no idea what happens. Right?

 

I just don't get why you'd post something I never posted. What's that based on?

[Basher of Glory]

As EDI said, after Leviathan was found:

"...they (the reapers) make mistakes!"

[AlanC9]

I never said they forgot. Right? Maybe they tried to fix it and failed for whatever reason. Right? We have no idea what happens. Right?
 
I just don't get why you'd post something I never posted. What's that based on?

Not having the capability to fix stuff they built in the first place is even weirder than forgetting about doing it. And yeah, we don't know what happens, but why are you proposing that this one particular bizarre thing might happen? I'm just asking where the idea came from and what the point is.

[CaIIisto]

Yeah, I'd imagine that the Reapers would fix the conduit. Don't see them wanting to FTL back to dark space, and also they'd want to re-set the Citadel trap. 

 

Of course all of that is likely made moot by Liara's info pods which presumably would confirm a) that the trap exists, how the trap works, and more importantly, c) how to foil it.

 

I don't remember what explanation is given around the conduit and how it works, but can the monument be moved? Placing it close to the event horizon of a black hole would surely make short work of the Reapers when they turned up in the next cycle! 

[themikefest]

Not having the capability to fix stuff they built in the first place is even weirder than forgetting about doing it. And yeah, we don't know what happens, but why are you proposing that this one particular bizarre thing might happen? I'm just asking where the idea came from and what the point is.

 And for some reason you seem fixated on what I posted without realizing its a possibility that the reapers might not of been able to fix the problem.  If they did great. If they didn't great.

 

I mentioned it because it something I was curious about and  will never know. There was no point to it.

[Iakus]

It doesn't matter. All we'd ever get out of this discussion is that Bio has yet another tech lore problem. Bio didn't want nukes to be useful in the setting because the space battles would look weird. Therefore.... but you don't need me to tell you this.

No I am already well aware that Rule of Cool>Lore and they'll fold, spindle, and mutilate everything they have established about the setting to make their story fit.

[in it for the lolz]

There are mysterious stories within the Mass Effect Universe that were not told by the authors.

 

 

 

http://forum.bioware...ogy/?p=17211052

In it for lolz likez +40,000

[Dale]

Off topic question:

 

Does anybody know the volumetrics of how many GUYS vs. GALS play this game?    For example:

 

GUYS - 3.5 million

GALS - 2.3 million

 

-or-

 

GUYS(70%) GALS(20%) ASARI(10%)

 

After reading the discussions about "romances", etc -- it's a question I can't seem to nail down -- since guys have female avatars & gals have guy avatars -- though I can sometimes tell by the subtleties in their choice of words & sentence structures.  

 

Seems also a difficult-to-obtain marketing question.  

 

If I GUESSED, then I'd be a target.

[Basher of Glory]

ON TOPIC:

 

Did we ever find, see or heaer about "reaper facilities" where they "make" all their minions?

 

We know, how new reapers are made (ME 2, Collectors) and we know, how they produce husks.

 

The banshee seems to be rather questionable. During the fight around the Ardath-Yakshi temple, we saw a seemingly unharmed girl, who suddenly attacked her sister. Samara said, that she is "...already changing to one of their (the reaper's) creatures..."

Now, what happens? A banshee is synthetic-organic, derived from Asari. In my eyes nothing, which can be done simply by "changing".

 

What about brutes and marauders?

Brutes are composed of a Krogan body and a Turian head. Seems to be a rather complicated operation.

The marauders were harvested Turians. The same transformation as the Ardath-Yakshi?

 

Ok, I guess you see my point. Did we ever see or hear about "reaper factories"?

[themikefest]

They have processing ships to make their minions

 

Processor: Mobile centers for mass DNA harvesting. Like the Troop Transports, Processors lack sentience and are controlled remotely by the actual Reapers

[von uber]

The Asari did a smart thing on Illium and destroyed those transports and facilities rather than aiming at the Reapers.

[themikefest]

The Asari did a smart thing on Illium and destroyed those transports and facilities rather than aiming at the Reapers.

Yep. Too bad we don't see or hear about anyone else doing the same.

[Basher of Glory]

It's a pity. The game explained and showed sufficiently, what and how Cerberus made it's troops, respectively it's abominations.

 

From the reapers we know about the production of the husks.

For all the other creatures we have just some codex-entries with the exception of the Collectors-story in ME 2.

[Display Name Owner]

Sovereign also supplied the Geth with Dragon's Teeth, and we saw that the Cerberus goons on the Derelict Reaper got transformed by DTs therein, so presumably the Sovereign-classes can transform captives inside them as well. They'd be big enough to support a whole host of facilities.

 

Husk creation was always a bit weird though. We get the nanites explanation, which is fair enough, but even the vanilla Husks have obvious machinery running through their bodies which must have been implanted there, and Dragon's Teeth don't look like they'd be capable of doing so. It's kind of nitpicky I admit, but it's true. By their design you'd expect each Husk to have been strapped down to a table and created manually, rather than just injected with stuff. You could say the Reapers have mastered nanotechnology so well that the nanites can shape themselves into solid mechanical parts I suppose.

[Basher of Glory]

Next: Military ranks.

 

1) For that what Shep did in ME 1 (assumend, the Council was saved), every army would have promoted her / him to captain. Was it explained somewhere, why this did not happen?

 

2) "Gunnery Chief"  (E7) Williams was promoted right to "Lieutenant Commander" (OF-3). Everyone, who served in a serious army knows, that there are worlds between an NCO and an officer. I could understand, when they gave her the rank of an ensign, but LC? From gunnery sergeant to major? Well, quite a career. Did anyone mention a reason for this unusual promotion?

[Vazgen]

1) Shepard is a Spectre, no longer under the jurisdiction of the Alliance. Being dead for two years doesn't help rank progression either

 

2) In ME ranking system there are 4 ranks between Gunnery Chief and Lieutenant Commander. She get Operations Chief rank in ME2 leaving 3 ranks. Perhaps the Alliance prepared Ashley as a replacement for Shepard, given his affiliation with Cerberus? Combined with her service record and no-nonsense military character she should jump ranks faster than regular soldiers. Being an LC is surprising though, Shepard is surprised himself in ME3.

Kaidan is Staff Lieutenant in ME1, jumps rank in ME2 (Staff Commander) and advances only one rank in ME3 (Major) - much more gradual progression.

[Fixers0]

1) Shepard is a Spectre, no longer under the jurisdiction of the Alliance. Being dead for two years doesn't help rank progression either

 

Actually, Shepard was never discharged of his duty to the Alliance upon becoming a spectre and the narrative at multiple occasions explictly mentions that Shepard is still in service of the  Alliance. Most of all Shepard iscontinually  reffered to as 'commander' by multiple inviduals, the rank which s/he achieved in service of the Alliance.

[Basher of Glory]

Actually, Shepard was never discharged of his duty to the Alliance upon becoming a spectre and the narrative at multiple occasions explictly mentions that Shepard is still in service of the  Alliance. Most of all Shepard iscontinually  reffered to as 'commander' by multiple inviduals, the rank which s/he achieved in service of the Alliance.

This is how I understood it, too. A spectre in addition to the duties of a frigate captain (commander).

 

I forgot or never noticed, that there is a special "ME-ranking system", btw.

[Vazgen]

Actually, Shepard was never discharged of his duty to the Alliance upon becoming a spectre and the narrative at multiple occasions explictly mentions that Shepard is still in service of the  Alliance. Most of all Shepard is continually  reffered to as 'commander' by multiple inviduals, the rank which s/he achieved in service of the Alliance.

I agree, he was still in the Alliance in ME1. In ME2, however, I believe he is no longer in the Alliance after his death. In ME3 he is reinstated in the beginning of the game, to his former rank. Referring to Shepard as "commander" shows his military rank in ME1 but in 2 that naming is attributed to his deeds in ME1. It was Commander Shepard who saved the Citadel and people know him/her as such.