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Al Foley

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Hello!? It's called The Dark Ritual. I don't think its called that cause Morrigan blew out the candle.

Wouldn't that be ironic though if that was the reason? :P



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Eventually the Dark Ritual should have major consequences and not consequences like killing/sparing the Rachni Queen... <_<

 

You get some neat Krogans out of that deal though if you did kill her though.



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Eventually the Dark Ritual should have major consequences and not consequences like killing/sparing the Rachni Queen... <_<

 

To achieve full godhood the OGB must consume the life of the Warden that conceived him...meaning he needs to kill your Warden/Alistair/Loghain, so the thing you did to save your Warden ends up killing them later. 

 

wouldn't that be a punch to the nuts. 


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The Dark Ritual was an easy "Everyone lives" button in DAO so I hope it leads to some negative consequence in DAI. Maybe Flemeth will kidnap him and use him for something.


I'd be really amused if it actually led to a positive outcome and everyone who chose not to do the ritual pretty much had a Warden die for no reason lol.
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You get some neat Krogans out of that deal though if you did kill her though.

I'm talking about ME1. 

 

Sparing or killing her boils down to a numbers game. 



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To achieve full godhood the OGB must consume the life of the Warden that conceived him...meaning he needs to kill your Warden/Alistair/Loghain, so the thing you did to save your Warden ends up killing them later. 

 

wouldn't that be a punch to the nuts. 

I would support this. I'd be pissed but I'd support it. 



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To achieve full godhood the OGB must consume the life of the Warden that conceived him...meaning he needs to kill your Warden/Alistair/Loghain, so the thing you did to save your Warden ends up killing them later. 

 

wouldn't that be a punch to the nuts. 

 

...once again, Alistair's problem, not mine. :wizard:  


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Really OP...Really.

 

And of course this side tracks into a Flemeth discussion.

 

To be fair Flemeth's far more interesting than the DR.



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I'd be really amused if it actually led to a positive outcome and everyone who chose not to do the ritual pretty much had a Warden die for no reason lol.

 

Ugh. I rather it lead to a different outcome. Maybe it's positive for some players maybe not.

 

It shouldn't just be a net gain or loss. That's boring.



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To be fair Flemeth's far more interesting than the DR.

 

 

To be fair neither of them are interesting.

 

Dumb Ritual and Swamp witch who needs to die...


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To be fair neither of them are interesting.

 

Dumb Ritual and Swamp witch who needs to die...

 

D: why I never.

 

I love Flemeth :crying:


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Considering how it was the get out of having your soul destroyed free card, if it doesn't come back to devour the Warden whole at some point it is a pretty uninteresting choice to offer.

 

That said, letting it combine with other later choices to see if it works out being good or bad might be interesting.


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Hello!? It's called The Dark Ritual. I don't think its called that cause Morrigan blew out the candle.


And I'm the Dark Knight. Dark=/=Evil.

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I'd be really amused if it actually led to a positive outcome and everyone who chose not to do the ritual pretty much had a Warden die for no reason lol.

Yeah, me too. Won't happen, though. It would hardly be fair, but more than that, Bioware tends to cater to the traditionalists in these things. "Dark Ritual, that can't be good." If I don't get a lesser outcome for having done the ritual, I'll be content.

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Yeah, me too. Won't happen, though. It would hardly be fair, but more than that, Bioware tends to cater to the traditionalists in these things. "Dark Ritual, that can't be good." If I don't get a lesser outcome for having done the ritual, I'll be content.



You're never going to have a lesser outcome, because the ritual already did what it was supposed to for you, and that was letting your warden survive. It is now for those who refused the ritual to get what they wanted out of it.

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You're never going to have a lesser outcome, because the ritual already did what it was supposed to for you, and that was letting your warden survive. It is now for those who refused the ritual to get what they wanted out of it.

I didn't do the ritual just to survive (I could've done that in two other ways), but because this Warden believed that Morrigan was right that "some things need to be preserved" or whatever her exact words were. If the ritual had bad consequences from his viewpoint down the line, my reasons for doing it would be invalidated. I would hate that and that, too, would hardly be fair.
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I'm scared for my Warden's safety now. I want the god baby to turn evil and make me have to fight it later! Not kill my Warden!



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Alistair's problem, not mine. Peace, sucker. 

 

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I can't wait to like this later, made me die of laughter :D  :lol:


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Hello!? It's called The Dark Ritual. I don't think its called that cause Morrigan blew out the candle.


Idk it could be called that because of morrigan's exact words " a ritual performed on the eve of battle in the DARK of night" she seemed to stress the fact that it needed to be dark. On a side not those scenes were so funny. No matter what character did the ritual with morrigan they all had a terrified look on their face.

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Performing the Dark Ritual was a no brainer. "I get to have sex with Morrigan and slay the Arch Demon without dying? Yes! Why would I not do this?! Me and I'm sure the majority of other players all did the ritual. I would like to have some consequences for making the easy decision instead of being rewarded for it.

 

For me, it's the complete opposite. NOT performing it is a no brainer. Morrigan is not trustworthy, I am not forcing Alistair to basically get raped by her, and I don't like "easy way outs". I like the fact that someone has to die. That's the rule, and no, I don't think it's stupid. The Dark Ritual completely ruins that for me. So... I'm not doing it. Ever. That's content I'll never see, and honestly? That's okay with me.

 

Also, I stabbed her at the end of Witch Hunt so I hope they make some sort of consequence for that. ...Like her not showing up.


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My Male Mage Warden did it, so I sincerely hope my son is a mage. Hopefully thos won't bite me in the ass, but you never know.

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Is anyone else worried that Broward has actually screwed up their lore with regards to this? The Dark Ritual worked because apparently it saved an Old God's soul, rather than letting both its soul and the warden's be annihilated. However, why doesn't Corypheus share the same fate when he body hops at the end of Legacy? Grey Wardens still have souls, and presumably so does Corypheus. So, what's up with that?

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Is anyone else worried that Broward has actually screwed up their lore with regards to this? The Dark Ritual worked because apparently it saved an Old God's soul, rather than letting both its soul and the warden's be annihilated. However, why doesn't Corypheus share the same fate when he body hops at the end of Legacy? Grey Wardens still have souls, and presumably so does Corypheus. So, what's up with that?

 

Possession of souled beings is an established thing the lore. Primarily demons taking over mages, but also allegedly Flemeth and her daughters. So I assume he was possessing the Warden with a deliberate attack rather than using the Archdemon automatic ejector soul.

 

Of course when magic is involved there is always an element of it works the way the writers say it does.



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I just hope I don't have to pay back child support.  After ten years, that's going to suck.

Not for my Warden, he went with Morrigan through the mirror.  He's no deadbeat dad though Morrigan may try to lose him in the Eluvian mirror for some reason.  :lol:

 

Hello!? It's called The Dark Ritual. I don't think its called that cause Morrigan blew out the candle.

The magic for it may be more of the Dark side of things but it's results and how the decision turns out is up in the air as it could easily turn into a good or bad idea.

 

I'm leaning towards a good idea.  We'll probably get more insight into the Old Gods is my guess.


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Is anyone else worried that Broward has actually screwed up their lore with regards to this? The Dark Ritual worked because apparently it saved an Old God's soul, rather than letting both its soul and the warden's be annihilated. However, why doesn't Corypheus share the same fate when he body hops at the end of Legacy? Grey Wardens still have souls, and presumably so does Corypheus. So, what's up with that?

Perhaps Grey Wardens understand Darkspawn less than they thought. Perhaps it isn't the fact that there are two souls that kill the archdemons, but instead that the archdemon needs more taint than a Great Warden body has and the same does not apply to Corypheus because he is a different sort of Darkspawn. Or perhaps the "death" isn't really a death but something else instead (purification maybe?). Besides, if Morrigan's two day old fetus is capable of holding a soul, who says it didn't already have one when it absorbed the old god soul?