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So the Dalish Inquisitor MUST have vallaslin, but...


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That sounds more like he's powered by anger. Like an anime protagonist. 

 

Actually you're right. My bad. That isn't equivalent to Aura of Pain. It's more akin to Reaver's Blood Frenzy skill.

 

Aura of Pain is self-inflicted spirit damage.. I kind of see that as psychological troubles.



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Fenris does become more powerful as he takes damage, he just doesn't inflict pain on himself to achieve this.  He has both Blood Frenzy and Fervor from the Reaver trees, and Death Blow from Berserker.



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Not sure that not knowing matters all that much.  I'm not a DA loreist (not a word hugh, red wiggly line?  Lore-ist), but hasn't a lot of Elven history been lost over the years?  Maybe I'm wrong but perhaps the Inquisitor character and Elves in general simply don't know which tattoo represents which god (or maybe not for all of them).  



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Not sure that not knowing matters all that much.  I'm not a DA loreist (not a word hugh, red wiggly line?  Lore-ist), but hasn't a lot of Elven history been lost over the years?  Maybe I'm wrong but perhaps the Inquisitor character and Elves in general simply don't know which tattoo represents which god (or maybe not for all of them).  

No, the Dalish would know what Creators the tattoos represent since they came up with the designs themselves.  All the evidence shows that these symbols were first used after the Fall of the Dales, when the Dalish first splintered off into nomadic tribes... whether Bioware tells us what they mean or not (they said that they will), the Inquisitor would know since s/he's a Dalish elf and grew up immersed in that culture.  Knowledge of the Creators is one of the few things that they managed to hold on to even throughout the long centuries when the elves were enslaved.  It is the cornerstone of their existence and one of the main reasons they refused to integrate into human society centuries ago.

 

Of course, that's just how the Dalish view their culture and religion... as with most things, YMMV.



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No, the Dalish would know what Creators the tattoos represent since they came up with the designs themselves.  

Ah, ok.  It'd be nice to know, but since I always either choose tattoos bases on how much I like the design or make the tattoo so faint it's barely noticeable it isn't a big deal for me to know or not.  I wouldn't mind knowing, but I would not choose based on that knowledge.



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Ah, ok.  It'd be nice to know, but since I always either choose tattoos bases on how much I like the design or make the tattoo so faint it's barely noticeable it isn't a big deal for me to know or not.  I wouldn't mind knowing, but I would choose based on that knowledge.

That's pretty much how I did it in DA:O before I found out about the online fan interpretation... :P  Now that I know about that, however, I find myself following the guide more because it helps with roleplaying... it's a bit more immersive IMO, but I also understand why some people would want to pick whatever looks best.


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I still can't believe they're mandatory. Remember in DA:O, when you could create a dwarf commoner or Dalish elf without a tattoo, and the game said "You might not get the full experience without a tattoo", but it let you create them like that anyway? I wish they did that in this game, especially with the warrior.
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The requirement is an improvement, I think.

 

Without the Vallaslin in Dalish culture, you're like that guy Cammen who couldn't get married (although his deal was he hadn't become a Hunter yet). It's a mark of adulthood and puberty.


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Vallaslin is a huge deal to the Dalish, so while I understand some people don't like facial tattoos I kind of like that it's required since it's such an important part of playing a Dalish character. Aren't they preparing an explanation for the vallaslin? I guess they listened. :3


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The requirement is an improvement, I think.

 

Without the Vallaslin in Dalish culture, you're like that guy Cammen who couldn't get married (although his deal was he hadn't become a Hunter yet). It's a mark of adulthood and puberty.

 

To become a Hunter is probably tied into becoming an "adult" among the Dalish. I imagine that once you become skilled in whatever you are trying to become in the clan (hunter, First/keeper or craftsman) you recieve your Vallaslin thus becoming a full member of the clan.



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The wait is killing me!! I hope soon the tattoo of Dirthamen is revealed and my dalish RPing can be complete. I know a lot of people don't care what they actually mean, but I think just knowing gives them much more context. Personally, I wouldn't want a tattoo slapped on my face knowing it has a meaning, but don't know what that meaning actually is.   



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The wait is killing me!! I hope soon the tattoo of Dirthamen is revealed and my dalish RPing can be complete. I know a lot of people don't care what they actually mean, but I think just knowing gives them much more context. Personally, I wouldn't want a tattoo slapped on my face knowing it has a meaning, but don't know what that meaning actually is.   

 

I would hope it's recognizable, from DAO. Dirthamen is what Tamlen is wearing (I think it fits him too. He's curious about that cave. And he admits sneaking around the Keeper's books).



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I would hope it's recognizable, from DAO. Dirthamen is what Tamlen is wearing (I think it fits him too. He's curious about that cave. And he admits sneaking around the Keeper's books).

Yeah I hope it isn't far from the original design either. But remember those designs are just fan speculation in which design represents which deity. So the one we think represents Dirthamen could actually represent any other of the deities. 



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Yeah I hope it isn't far from the original design either. But remember those designs are just fan speculation in which design represents which deity. So the one we think represents Dirthamen could actually represent any other of the deities. 

 

I think it's accurate using process of elimination. Although I think that's one of the more abstract ones. Dirthamen, Mythal, and Elgar'nan aren't so obvious. The rest are imo.



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Personally? If including female dwarven beards for fun, even though it has absolutely nothing to do with any DA lore (and honestly wasn't part of Tolkeins that much either) just for customization, I feel being lore specific kinda flew out the window. It would be cool if it was a choice, but I understand that part of the plot wouldn't make sense without one.



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Personally? If including female dwarven beards for fun, even though it has absolutely nothing to do with any DA lore (and honestly wasn't part of Tolkeins that much either) just for customization, I feel being lore specific kinda flew out the window. It would be cool if it was a choice, but I understand that part of the plot wouldn't make sense without one.

That was for fun?  I thought female dwarves were just hairier than females of other races according to the updated lore... won't any of the dwarven female NPCs have stubble?  If not, that's kind of a weird thing to add to the character creator... why only dwarves?



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I think it's accurate using process of elimination. Although I think that's one of the more abstract ones. Dirthamen, Mythal, and Elgar'nan aren't so obvious. The rest are imo.

A book tattooed on one's forehead is pretty obvious IMO...



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That was for fun?  I thought female dwarves were just hairier than females of other races according to the updated lore... won't any of the dwarven female NPCs have stubble?  If not, that's kind of a weird thing to add to the character creator... why only dwarves?

Nope, they specifically made it just in CC so people could go "Tolkien" in their words. Originally they were not going to do it, and then said "why not" female dwarves never have facial hair in the setting. They added it because Tolkien in LotR said people have a hard time telling male dwarves from female ones. Because all his dwarves had beards, people assumed all female dwarves had beards. Same reason elves usually don't have facial hair. Tolkien said elves (and part elf blooded like Aragorn) cannot have facial hair. Understand that he broke his own lore more times than anybody. But Tolkien is Tolkien and throw away lines in his books have become fantasy staples to such a degree that they are stereotypes and taken for granted as just how things are.



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I wonder if there are tattoos for those who are rebellious? 



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I wonder if there are tattoos for those who are rebellious? 

 

Probably not, what would a rebellious tattoo look like anyway?



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One to the Dread Wolf. He did trick the gods away and isn't exactly friendly to anyone.


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Probably not, what would a rebellious tattoo look like anyway?

I don't know. Based on the Dread Wolf most likely. After all, the Vallaslin represent the gods, so what's more rebellious than getting one of the god who trapped the other gods? 


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Reject the gods completely and get flowering vines or something. 

 

It's still vassalin and as you did go through with the ceremony you have to be considered an adult. 



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Reject the gods completely had get flowering vines or something. 

 

It's still vassalin and as you did go through with the ceremony you have to be considered an adult. 

That implies that some of the options have no meaning, and thus them being mandatory is pointless. 



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I don't know. Based on the Dread Wolf most likely. After all, the Vallaslin represent the gods, so what's more rebellious than getting one of the god who trapped the other gods? 

I can't imagine any Dalish clan that would honor the Trickster with vallaslin... it's not a practice the Dalish take lightly.