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[Vereesa]

so my options are Sera or Solas it seems

 

 

tough choice

[Lenimph]

I ment how Leliana's relationship with a F!Warden is completely ignored in game compared to the M!Warden romance despite her seemingly preferring women, always disappointed me

oh right thaaat. I would love a developer explanation for that because I have never seen one

[Bellethiel]

It is true that the romance scenes themselves are generally a very small part of the content.

It is also true that a lot of the appeal of Bioware games is the depth and breadth of the NPC characters - the party banter, their relationships with the PC and each other, the fact that they typically have their own unique character growth arcs complete with side quests and the ability of the PC to influence them to change in some way. Romance content is, imho, a very natural and organic outgrowth of the relationship the PC can form with these characters - and can allow the player to experience another level of relationship with them.

For me, having a PC invested in a romantic relationship can change the entire feel of the rest of the game. It isn't just the brief romantic scenes, but the fact that the PC has a partner that makes the game experience very different than it is for a single PC.

 

 

Like I said. I do understand that for some people it's a big deal. I do understand that it can greatly improve gaming experience. It's not like I do not like romances in games. I actually really enjoy them as well, so I can see your point. But saying that you will buy game only because it has romances sounds a bit extreme to me. As far as I know ending up in relationship with someone is not the main focus or purpose of the game. Like someone said: it's not a dating simulator, and people should not expect it to be one.

Just because for someone romance is not just addition to the game but rather most important part of it, does not change the fact that romance is not what Dragon Age is all about. I never said I have anything against people who find that element important. But saying that's it's the only thing which matters, and the only thing which makes you interested in buying Dragon Age? That's too much if you ask me.

If you will cut romance content from the actual game you still can have tons of fun with it. Some people seem to ignore that.

[LukaCrosszeria]

Here are our “core” romance options. They are available to players of any race, and fulfill our first design goal of providing multiple options to everyone:

• Cassandra is interested in male characters.
• Blackwall is interested in female characters.
• Josephine is interested in both male and female characters
• Iron Bull is interested in both male and female characters
• Sera is interested in female characters.
• Dorian is interested in male characters.

Two “additional” romance options were added to the game as a result of the extra development time DA:I received. They are more limited in scope, largely for reasons directly related to their story arcs, but are otherwise the equal of the other options:

• Cullen is interested in female elves and female humans.

• Solas is interested in female elves only.

 

So the core romance options are very evenly distributed, that's nice. That means my male elfquisitor has 4 options! Dorian, Iron Bull, Cassandra and Josephine. I cannot wait to get my hands on this game.

I've sure been surprised though, I thought Varric would be the straight romance option, not Blackwall and I also thought Viv would be romanceable not Solas. My predictions were wrong

[Altus Mage]

Really no Vivienne  her and cassandra were the Two i were really interested in romancing  but its more straight Female Love interests than For male I wonder why they did that 

It's probably because we don't have as many female companions as we do male companions. Leliana could be in a relationship with the Warden. Cass, Sera and Josie are already love interests. Vivienne may be with someone already, or there might be a real good story reason. We'll see. I admit it would have been cool to romance her.

 

But when it came to them adding more LIs, there was generally males left over.

[Hazegurl]

That you responded with her physical appearance is the issue. She may very well have had something happen to her in the past that makes her emotionally unresponsive to romance.

 

It's also possible her character is too preoccupied with trying to reinstate the Circles and just can't deal with relationships right now, or simply doesn't want to.

Since when is liking someone's physical appearance wrong? When you know nothing about a person, the only thing you have to go on is their appearance. It's only when you get to know them that you begin to like/dislike other aspects to them. It would be nice to at least get to flirt with Viv.

[LiaraShepard]

Since when is liking someone's physical appearance wrong? When you know nothing about a person, the only thing you have to go on is their appearance. It's only when you get to know them that you begin to like/dislike other aspects to them. It would be nice to at least get to flirt with Viv.

 

Maybe you can flirt with her as you can do with Samara, and she will confess that she has feelings for you but can't enter a relationship for certain reasons. 

[Brockololly]

Main thing I'll be curious about with any of the romances is how the game will react to your Inquisitor trying to approach any of the romanceable companions that are gated. Like, will the game let you try to flirt with Sera as a male Inquisitor and she'll shut you down? Or a male Inquisitor trying to start something with Vivienne? Or will those simply not be options to bring up? I always liked that sort of reactivity, like Samara in ME2 and to a lesser extent Aveline in DA2.

 

 

I do kind of wish they had some sort of class gated romance. I remember reading the manual for Origins when it came out and thought maybe Morrigan wouldn't romance a Warden that specialized as a Templar. Of course, that never happened but more reactivity towards one's class or specialization whether it be with romance or otherwise would be nice.

 

Or even reactivity based on how you create your Inquisitor in the character creator. Maybe one companion ends up falling for your Inquisitor more easily because they're a sucker for blonde hair and blue eyes or conversely you have a harder time trying to woo someone because they think your Inquisitor has a busted face?

[LiaraShepard]

 

I do kind of wish they had some sort of class gated romance. I remember reading the manual for Origins when it came out and thought maybe Morrigan wouldn't romance a Warden that specialized as a Templar. Of course, that never happened but more reactivity towards one's class or specialization whether it be with romance or otherwise would be nice.

 

Please, no class gating. It becomes boring if we cannot have love/hate relationships as with Fenris or Anders. If anything, it would be great if some constellations, for example mage and templar, are more difficult when it comes to romance building. But I actually don't want them to be impossible. If everything is impossible, because everyone has very strong claims, we just have only friendly romances left. And I like the full spectrum of romances, from friendly romances, to funny romances to love/hate romances.

[franciscoamell]

Gender gating and race gating is more than enough already. Please no class gating.

[Lucrece]

I don't know if straight women are privileged in that way or not, but I'm kind of curious as to what you mean by 'a straight female sensibility'?

 

 

What you would mean by "straight male sensitivity", that is conventional perceived tastes in media consumption.

 

For example, one of the main criticisms against World of Warcraft: Warlords of Draenor, is that when they constantly market the game world as "savage" and "raw", and the entire marketing shows male orcs that are virtually stand ins for metalhead fantasies, that is a straight male sensibility. The majority of straight males are raised to consume and seek hypermasculine products and watch action movies and play wargames.

 

In romance novels, the romantic male lead tailored for a stereotypical (and books sell stereotypically, the entire point of marketing is generalizing) straight female audience is an adventurous, interesting, caring idealized man, that will empower you and want to marry you and have your children. An accessory to progressing your life. Few of these men are petty or selfish, let alone conventionally unattractive. Most of them are in their 20's or early 30's, not balding, and most definitely interesting, spontaneous characters.

[SofaJockey]

Gender gating and race gating is more than enough already. Please no class gating.

 

and we would then need 48 love interests to be 'fair' to everyone. So no.

[Grayvisions]

 

Note that this doesn't mean someone can't be disappointed because they found her attractive, or that specifically because she's a prominent woman of colour, it sucks to not be able to romance her specifically because our games haven't historically had anyone like her at all.

 

You should write this on a post-it and put it somewhere for future Bioware development to take note of *innocent whistle*

[Bekalynn]

oh gawd i hope 30 to 40 isn't classed as old, i'm doomed best go buy my zimmerframe

Christ, if 30-40 is old, I'm freaking DEAD...   (Sorry, couldn't resist...)

[schall_und_rauch]

Very belatedly, a chart to consult (I am sure this has been done somewhere before, but I still need to do this to keep calm):

 

Romance alternatives, depending if your inquisitor is

 

male, heterosexual: Josi, Cassandra.

male, homosexual: Bull, Dorian

male, bisexual: Josi, Cassandra, Bull, Dorian

 

female, homosexual: Josi, Sera

female, heterosexual elf: Blackwall, Bull, Cullen, Solas

female, heterosexual human: Blackwall, Bull, Cullen

female, heterosexual dwarf or qunari: Blackwall, Bull

female, bisexual: Josi, Sera, Blackwall, Bull, Cullen (if elf or human), Solas (if elf)

 

So everybody has at least two options, with bisexuality opening up the number of potential romances.

Females who are elves have the additionally Cullen and Solas, Females who are human have Cullen as a bonus.

 

Slight imbalance, but not huuuuuuge.

[Nashimura]

Gender gating and race gating is more than enough already. Please no class gating.

 

 

I think Fenris falling for a mage is a much stronger narrative anyway, his love for hawke outweighing his hate for mages.... no matter how much he resists. 

[franciscoamell]

I think Fenris falling for a mage is a much stronger narrative anyway, his love for hawke outweighing his hate for mages.... no matter how much he resists. 

Me too! That made his rivalmance really special. 

[Maria Caliban]

Is a shame that all the bi characters so far have seemingly much preferred the opposite sex, only Leliana preferred other women but that was almost completely ignored

How do you feel it's been ignored?

[shinyfirefly]

How do you feel it's been ignored?

I suspect this is a reference to male Wardens getting more romance-related party banter with Leliana. Couldn't a male Warden hold hands or kiss LIs while out of camp?

[Milan92]

I know he could only kiss Morrigan.

 

I managed to get it to work once with Leliana, but it never worked again with other playthroughs.

[shinyfirefly]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that animation was only available in opposite sex relationships, and even then it was apparently buggy.

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

I suspect this is a reference to male Wardens getting more romance-related party banter with Leliana. Couldn't a male Warden hold hands or kiss LIs while out of camp?

I'm pretty sure Leliana and Zevran just didn't have that in general, for whatever reason, regardless of gender.

Alistair and Morrigan, however, did.

[HiroVoid]

Couldn't a male Warden hold hands or kiss LIs while out of camp?

Only if you mod as far as I know.

[Bekalynn]

I'm struggling to get that out of my head now... 

 

ROFL!!!

[MACharlie1]

Only if you mod as far as I know.

Nope.

 

All could be kissed outside of camp.

 

I remember the dialog they would sometimes say. Oghren would oggle and faint during a FemWarden/Leliana kiss. Leliana would giggle when someone else was being kissed. Etc. Alistair would sometimes refuse it. Morrigan would say she didn't care if they were alone and kissed the Warden anyway.