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[Isaidlunch]

Glad it's finally over. I'm don't know why I still put myself through this after the DA2 and ME3 LI reveals.

 

Yes. Full-fledged insofar as the writing goes, but each "combination" of race and gender means an entirely extra set of work for cinematics in full conversations. It's not just a switch we can flip because we want to. We only had time to add so much additional work, and these were the options that made sense for the characters and which made for good stories to tell.

 

I'm sorry you didn't get as many options as you'd like, or perhaps begrudge those who got options you didn't, but--if I'm to speak frankly--having fans unhappy they didn't get enough gay options in a triple-A videogame title is still a pretty big win in my books. I really hope you'll like the choices you encounter in the game once you play, regardless of what kind of character you end up choosing to play as.

 

I'm not sure how to feel about the imbalance (leaning towards indifference), but I definitely consider having the same amount of options as straight males and having two gay companions as a win.  So, thank you & the rest of the DA team for that.

[HiroVoid]

Y'know, it's also really interesting that the LI can refuse you if your PC is not the kind of person they like. Really curious to see how this works, there have been hints of rivalries and dislike among the crew and their bios show tidbits about how different and opinionated they are.

That's actually the part I'm most interested in seeing how its implemented.

[Maria Caliban]

Why does anyone care about this?

/Hangs around forums of cRPG long before it comes out.
/Pretends they don't care about trivial things.

[Mabari-Master]

I'll bet when Aimo reads this, and I'm sure she has, she'll be jumping for joy!

[lisavamp]

So excited to romance Cullen and Solas. Human Rogue with Cullen. and Elven Mage with Solas. Then maybe do a Quinari with Blackwall or Ironbull?

Dangit, I know i want to be a human first, but I can't decide weather a Rogue or a Mage...

[HiroVoid]

But at the same time it gave more choices to people who usually were in the situation you are in now. 

 

Also why so many people assume everyone who planned to play as straight female is thrilled to play as an elf? What about dwarf and qunari lovers? 

Dwarves generally represented about 3% of playthroughs in Origins.  Qunari'll probably be more popular than dwarves, but I'll be surprised if they're more popular than elves.  Its more a case where the majority of people won't have a problem playing as a human or elf.

[Palidane]

/Hangs around forums of cRPG long before it comes out.
/Pretends they don't care about trivial things.

I absolutely don't care about this, and have no clue why anyone would. Would you care to explain?

[Bioblitzer]

But that makes absolutely no sense. In DAO you had two, in DA2, you had two, and now in DAI, you have two again. What's the holdup?

is it not understandable when it is now uneven between male and female li?

[Lady Shayna]

Y'know, it's also really interesting that the LI can refuse you if your PC is not the kind of person they like. Really curious to see how this works, there have been hints of rivalries and dislike among the crew and their bios show tidbits about how different and opinionated they are.

 

This is especially true, I think, for advisors, as they're not in a position to leave your party.  What will they do if they really hate you, give you bad advice?

 

"Yes, Inquisitor, I think you should go alone to Val Royeaux and call the Empress a pointed headed weirdo with bad taste in clothes.  You must leave your armor and weapons behind as well - you shouldn't provoke her, after all."

[Palidane]

is it not understandable when it is now uneven between male and female li?

One, no, because not everything has to be 100% equal all the time. Two, the poster I quoted said he felt like he had less options and was more confined than in previous games, which is demonstrably untrue.

[shedevil3001]

omg thank you for this info, for once my femquizzie can have a few choices, who to romance first, this is just awesome, i'm not even sad over not getting a beta code for the keep anymore, this game is going to be epic

[ForceXev]

Just seems like there's not a lot of options for my player character compared to the previous games. I mean there's more overall romance options yeah  and it's obvious Bioware has put more work into them with story elements, it just feels to me like it's restricted the overall "choices" to me.

 

Which is how it normally is for female gamers in almost every other game, including previous Bioware games.  Maybe us poor, neglected straight male gamers can give female gamers a break on this one, eh? 

[just.somebody2]

This is especially true, I think, for advisors, as they're not in a position to leave your party.  What will they do if they really hate you, give you bad advice?

 

"Yes, Inquisitor, I think you should go alone to Val Royeaux and call the Empress a pointed headed weirdo with bad taste in clothes.  You must leave your armor and weapons behind as well - you shouldn't provoke her, after all."

 

Hm, brings up the question of whether or not it's at all possible to lose an advisor in some way (or are they permanent? I forget) They;re too invested to give bad advice, I think. Maybe badmouth you though.

 

I believe we can lose party members who travel with you.

 

Now I wonder just how much you have to screw up to make everyone hate you.

 

And how good a juggling egos you have to be to have everyone like you.

[Battlebloodmage]

Er, I'm mostly making logical deductions of a sort (I could be completely wrong of course but my point was to evidence the unlikelihood). I mean, there's literally NO class-gating so really, these worries are unwarranted. There's no information other than race-gating.

 

But if you wanna worry about it, then worry about it.

 

 

 

Also, can we not contradict actual released info that says the "extra" romances are extra romances? (which don't really impact one's game if they aren't elf or in lesser part human anyway) If you want to be exact about it, the contend to straight/pan females-who-go-for-men is not doubled. More like 37% (rounding down) for elves and like less than 13% for humans if my math is correct. And correct me if I'm wrong but it's very rare for even straight female PC's to ever be catered to.  Acknowledging the female fanbase who wanted to romance Cullen since DAO and recently Solas once he was revealed is a good thing.

I never said I worry over it, just made a guess about it. It's you who keeps responding to it, I'm just replying in response. 

 

When it comes down to it, the person who playing the game is still humans would still have a set attraction, and they have more choices available to them. They can still be of the gender that represent them who can romance someone of their prefer gender. Race is more of a fantasy element than actual gender and sexual orientation. DA2 has Sebastian while DAI has Solas and Cullen as additional options. It's never a good thing to favor a particular group over the over. There is a different a particular group who happens to have more options as opposed to intentionally distribute unevenly for any particular reasons. 

[Sporothrix]

Oh my god! Girls have more romance options! Female Inquisitor representation in marketing!

It's the end of the world! It's a sign! The things have come! The Worm Now Walks!

 

No, girls don't have more romance options. Only straight (and bi ) girls have. Lesbian girls have only one companion romance actually.

[Zombie_Alexis]

Blackwall is a romance option? My stars, I never in a million years would have thought that would be a possibility. I may have to rethink my intended first play through!

 

[Bellethiel]

Dwarves generally represented about 3% of playthroughs in Origins.  Qunari'll probably be more popular than dwarves, but I'll be surprised if they're more popular than elves.  Its more a case where the majority of people won't have a problem playing as a human or elf.

Well that's kind of surprising. I was finding dwarven origins stories more interesting than elven ones.

I mean. I am not surprised that elves are more popular, but I never thought that difference was so huge. They deserved better than 3%

[just.somebody2]

I never said I worry over it, just made a guess about it. It's you who keeps responding to it, I'm just replying in response. 

 

When it comes down to it, the person who playing the game is still humans would still have a set attraction, and they have more choices available to them. They can still be of the gender that represent them who can romance someone of their prefer gender. Race is more of a fantasy element than actual gender and sexual orientation. DA2 has Sebastian while DAI has Solas and Cullen as additional options. It's never a good thing to favor a particular group over the over. There is a different a particular group who happens to have more options as opposed to intentionally distribute unevenly for any particular reasons. 

OH.

 

Well, I actually read that first post you made as being worried about the possible cause lol. Silly me.

 

I think there was some misinterpretation on both sides. Though I actually think it wasn't that bad of a talk.

[omnitremere]

No, girls don't have more romance options. Only straight (and bi ) girls have. Lesbian girls have only one companion romance actually.

 

Why don't you count Josephine/Sera?

[Gtdef]

No, girls don't have more romance options. Only straight (and bi ) girls have. Lesbian girls have only one companion romance actually.

 

Oh come on, by that logic straight males and gay males have 1 option as well because IB and Josephine are bi.

[snackrat]

Can't wait to see momochanners' (aka aimo's) reaction when she hears about Blackwall!

[Palidane]

No, girls don't have more romance options. Only straight (and bi ) girls have. Lesbian girls have only one companion romance actually.

Doesn't Josephine and Sera make two?

 

And if you are discount bisexuals for whatever reason, then straight and gay males only have one romance as well.