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#676
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Hey, by the way guys, how do I put someone on my ignore list? Just curious.

 

First copy the person's name you want to ignore.

 

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I don't recall if there's any out non-straight woman there though. But you're right, it wouldn't necessarily change much. I just wonder why with their extra time they could only think of as it seems such heteronormative stories. It's also weird that DAI is going to have such overrepresentation of men compared to women in companion department. There were no more ideas for interesting female characters?

 

That kind of answers your question. :P

 

The straight female demographic will naturally write the most romances for their own. F/F will get shafted just as much, this will not change. Most people erroneously think that it will, just because the writers are not guys.

 

Although, it's a mystery why m/m had gotten less, as this is a very popular genre amongst women, in fiction.


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Since Vivienne is supposed to be defined by ambition it makes sense that she doesn't fraternise with knife ears or carta scum. Still, I thought human Warrior/Rogue was noble

So? My annoyance is still justified. You have no argument.


Why are you so mad though? Like I said before its not like several burly men from EA come round your house and force you to play a straight male on every playthrough. If you're that dedicated to a character and reaaaallly want to romance them, play a different character.

Romances are a tiny part of the game

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The DA team didn't make them feel left out. Bioware in general did, witht the more recent example in ME3.

 

Mass Effect isn't Dragon Age.


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#680
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You know nobody here has even tried the game (unless you were at PAX or a testing session or something, which someone here may have been).  Complaining that person X or Y isn't available to you is crazy when you really know nothing about the character or their personality.  Maybe you won't like them as much as you think you would have.  Maybe you'll find you really like someone of a gender you wouldn't normally go for more and change your playthrough to suit it.  I never thought I'd play a male character, but who could resist Morrigan?  That willingness to try something new opened up a huge new world of playthroughs for all Bioware games for me.


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me neither but they were more like a last resort for me I mean I'm sure they are great but I was hoping for others (Solas and especially Blackwall from the men and Vivienne and Sera from the women) but it was just not meant to be

 

I'm especially disappointed that Blackwall is not bi after the Solas reveal I was thinking they would go either with Vivienne (which wouldn't have been that bad) or Blackwall as bi ...

Well I will be hoping for some unique gay options in the next game
 

They were my last resort too, but hey, there's nothing wrong with them. I just hope Josephine has a backbone, like she can be tough when it counts or something like that. Maybe she could be more perfect for me than Vivienne?

 

And yeah, maybe more gay options next time around, but oh well.


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So basically..... The variation of options here is pretty poorly spread. (M/M - 2, F/F -2, F/M - 4, M/F - 2) You could get away with having two (or fewer) options available to you in the previous games, because in the base games of both DA:O and DA:II there were only four romance options in total. In DA:I, there are ten. Which is enough to give people three options, if some of the options are presented as bisexual. Solas and Cassandra would have been good for this, and it would've been a little better for a pretty decent portion of your fan base. Even if you had preserved Solas' elven only attraction, it still would've made the game a little more valid for some of your male players. As for Cassandra, when she heard that my FemHawke saved Isabela in DA2 she was swooning. I don't see why she wasn't made available as an option to females. Vivienne could have been implemented as another male only option.
These changes would bring the count up to M/M - 3, F/F - 3, F/M - 4, M/F - 3. Which is a much more even spread.

Edit - Actually, I miscounted. M/F is also only two and have edited my post accordingly. Also I agree with the poster below then, perhaps Sera also should've been bisexual. Honestly, no one's going to care about how brave you guys are for including "fully gay" characters if when they play the game they don't connect with the few options that are available to them.
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#683
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So equality is only okay when it advantages you.

 

Got it.

 

Typical feminist.

I'm pretty sure that literally none of your post makes any sense here.

 

And by literally I actually mean literally.


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Remember, You can't answer years of inequality with more inequality. That's why we're a little upset and to be honest it's entirely justified.


People are entitled to feeling upset. But I cannot understand the desperation with which some scramble to present oppression.
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I'm certainly not going to boycott this game just because I'm pissed at the Romance options its only a nice feature for me

but what Bioware did is unfair thats just a fact
 

 

Back when BG2 came out, and all I got was Anomen, while male player characters had Aerie, Viconia, or Jaheira, I thought it was unfair.  It didn't even *occur* to me to ask for lesbian romances at that time, I was just sad that female characters had one option.

 

Over time, I got used to feeling marginalized, or being an afterthought, as a player of a female character, who wanted diverse romances.

 

Now I'm still sad that I didn't get the romances I wanted, but it is what it is.  I registered for the original Bioware forum back when I was pregnant with my kid, who is now eleven.  The more things change, the more they stay the same.  

 

This time around I'm happy for the players whose straight female Inquisitors have tons of choices.  But I'm still sad about the limitations, that, as usual, preclude me from romancing my first or even second choice.

 

Eventually, *if* you continue to be in the group with fewer choices, which isn't even guaranteed, you'll just shrug it off and carry on.


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#686
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If Solas and Cassandra had been written as bisexual, then it would've been a little better for a pretty decent portion of your fan base.

 

Yeah, Smen would get 2 romances and straight women 5.

 

Sera and Solas should've both been bisexual.


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nope they had extra development time and instead maybe making one special romance for males and the others for females (should also have been bi since they were "extra" so  gay people(gay females and males) also have more choices )

How is this done for the story?

 

Hmm, but let's look at the characters who would have been available for such a thing.

 

Cullen

Solas

Cole

Varric

Vivienne

Leliana

 

Only 2 of those characters are female.  One of them is automatically locked out because of the Warden.  That leaves only Vivienne, who for some plot or character reason, has no interest in romance at all.  

 

Basically, there were not enough women have another female LI. 

 

It sounds like time and resource limitations kept them from making them bi/not race-gated, though.  Too bad they couldn't just make Solas gay to even things out.



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Understandably so.

 

Gays of both gender and straight males have 2 romances each.

 

Straight women have 4, twice the amount more than anyone else.

 

I'm out of likes, but I agree. Giving the same group 2 additional options is over the top. I mean, I pay the same money for the game. Can't I expect equal choices? Or at least three options? A 4 vs. 2 split is really a shame... I'm still not over it.... .___.


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Mass Effect isn't Dragon Age.

It's not me who said 'Bioware', (instead of 'the DA team' ) didn't make them feel left out.
Context is important.

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I wouldn't blame bioware if they decided to treat romances like the elder scrolls series because some of the comments here are a freaking nightmare
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I agree and its especially annoying because they had extra development time and instead of dividing it the straight females got it all

I'm not only talking about the straight males, what about the gay females and gay males?

 

Not all of the extra development time went to romances, most of it went to giving us 4 races to play with and I'm pretty sure we are all great full for that.


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Manage ignore pref after clicking on your profile in the top right.

Hey thanks. Might come in handy some day.



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People are entitled to feeling upset. But I cannot understand the desperation with which some scramble to present oppression.

Because when things like this happen to us, few and far between as they are it still worries us. For example if this was flipped there'd be just as much anger about it. 



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I think people are being a bit... wow here. Okay everyone look on it this way, we have here all two choices, even if you can only play a character who matches your gender and sexuality, more if you are able to stretch some, and it's fine if you can't. That is a good base minimum, now I have to say I think after that letting the writers write the story that interests them is better than trying to rigidly enforce a equality across the board in a single game. Look on this as a hint of the future, an approach I think is best, give everyone a base bare minimum and after that let them write what makes sense.

 

In future games the extra romances if they do them, may benefit a different demographic and that is fine, I'd much rather have the Writers write stories they are inspired by that try to meet some strange unreachable target. Make sure every one has a choice and occasionally some people have more choice, but that does not mean the next time the same people will have that more choice. We get the better stories that way, I think, or they may decide... it's not worth the explosion on BSN I guess.


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By the Maker - It's gone quite derailed hasn't it?

 

 

And here I thought we could all be rational adults about it. 

"Well, I didn't get who I want - But these other character's seem interesting."

 

Hell, I'm probably going to roll multiple male/female characters to experience each of the romances - and hope that my Inquisitor doesn't do something that makes them not want to pursue a relationship with him/her.

 

Can't we just take what we're given and make the best out of it? I mean , you act like the choices everyone got weren't awesome in their own respects?

 

All this talk of Inequality makes my teeth itch - or maybe that's the bee's trapped in them.


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nope they had extra development time and instead maybe making one special romance for males and the others for females (should also have been bi since they were "extra" so  gay people(gay females and males) also have more choices )

How is this done for the story?
 

 

I don't understand this line of thinking. The only other character that could have been an option to add as a romance was Viv, and neither you nor I nor anyone outside of Bioware has any idea if there isn't a perfectly valid reason for her to not actually be an option. Maybe she's married? Maybe she just got out of a relationship and isn't interested in a new one? I also only have two options, Scribbles and Sera, when I really wanted Cass, but I don't have a problem with her not being an option for me, because I trust that it doesn't make sense with her character. 

 

The only recent Bioware romance I was actively upset about not being an option for me was Jack. And that was mostly because she makes an offhand comment about having been with women in the past but not wanting to go that way anymore (which is her choice, and fine), and then finding out that there was actually F/F dialog recorded for the game that was never used. Considering the only option in the first two games for me was Liara, who I was never really a big fan of, I pretty much stayed out of romances until Traynor in ME3. 

 

But I seriously don't get being upset about other people having more options than me. I get being upset if you're not represented at all. But you get 2 options, but then they had extra time to do some more and the only thing that made sense for the characters that were available meant they would not be options for me, and you're upset, then you're just being selfish and entitled. 


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Wow.
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You realize that Bioware games have interesting characters who aren't companions also right?

 

They also have NPCs that are interesting, that are not hetero so? NPCs are not the same as companion and never gonna to be, that is just the true of it.

I did warn folks about the lack of female representation on the cast, a lot of people seems to even be angry at me for this. So now there you have it, I am not even surprise at this at all. The only good thing about the romances, is that finally straight males have as much options as the minorities. Actually it is hilarious that gay males have two companions and hetero males only one lol I think I would never see the day really. 



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Sure, females in general get more options in this game, but remember the race gating

 

Female Elves get 6, the most

Female humans get 5

Female Qunari and Dwarves get 4.

 

The above number s include straight and not. A straight Qunari or Dwarf female get only 2, Blackwall and Iron Bull, for instance.

 

Given the larger number of male characters in the group, its not surprising really.



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[Persuade] This isn't worth arguing over at all
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