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[ManchesterUnitedFan1]

I don't feel very comfortable expressing this idea, but is it possible that Vivi as a circle Mage was raped and as a possible results prefers to ignore romance so as to not be reminded of it?

I know rape doesn't often have that effect but everyone's different and stuff

I don't know maybe that's really stupid....I guess then she'd be a possible asexual romance

It's just quite a lot of circle mages are raped, aren't they? Maybe I'm wrong

[ABC]

(romances done)

 

Ever?

 

In order: Viconia, Aerie, Anomen, Aribeth, Aarin Gend, Valen Shadowbreath, Carth Onasi, Bastila, Alistair, Morrigan, Zevran, Fenris... and now Dorian and Cassandra.

 

I just had to respond to this- I play BG2 regularly and I had no idea you have written Viconia romance... I'm a gay male and Viconia is still my favorite character story-arc/romance (despite being over-the top D&D), with great writing and generous amount of content (which is not to say I do not like other characters you mention). I know this seems ridiculously over-due, but it does influence my expectations of Dorian. So, here is to Dorian potentially dethroning Viconia

 

More OT: I'm glad you have decided to make a final reveal and I appreciate the manner in which this has been done. I kind of hoped for bi Blackwall (because you know, why not bathe in choice ) BUT I'm very happy as things are. Representations goes over the wide spectrum, everyone has CHOICE- not just an option and characters have their own preference (although I'm not averse to DA2 "everyone's available" approach, videogames are capable to be flexible simulators after all).

 

I'm sorry to see you dealing with (IMO) unnecessary and baseless outrage, I hope the positive reactions outweigh negative and you realize people still appreciate your intentions and work. In the end, Bioware has been quite the risk-taker lately and I hope business confirms your strategy.

 

In the end, none of the characters we think are great (or even the game itself) may turn to be to our liking at all. I won’t lie, the whole package looks promising but it's best to withhold the judgments until then.

[AlexiaRevan]

Aw sheesh lol now we gonna start guessing? wouldn't that be spoiler if we get it right ?  Maybe she made a Vow or that the circle forbide it or her position does ?

[scrapmetals]

More elves and more human romances.

 

Total diversity guys, good job.

 

Also loling at the DA fans and Bioware team members that are massive SJWs.

[prosthetic soul]

Welp, came in here to rejoice at Cass not being race-gated but instead find myself to be fuming from Allan's diatribe against straight white males.  I didn't even care that straight males didn't have as many options as bisexuals or gay men or females but with every post Mr. Schumacher makes, I'm becoming increasingly convinced he has a serious chip on his shoulder against straight white males.  And for the love of God "white male privilege" should never be a term used seriously.  I can't speak for BioWare's intention on making the romance options for this game.  I can't speak for what they had in mind when deciding on the ratio there for gender availability.  That would be a bit presumptuous on my end.  But regarding Allan's posts?  I find them offensive.  Gravely offensive. 

[scrapmetals]

Welp, came in here to rejoice at Cass not being race-gated but instead find myself to be fuming from Allan's diatribe against straight white males.  I didn't even care that straight males didn't have as many options as bisexuals or gay men or females but with every post Mr. Schumacher makes, I'm becoming increasingly convinced he has a serious chip on his shoulder against straight white males.  And for the love of God "white male privilege" should never be a term used seriously.  I can't speak for BioWare's intention on making the romance options for this game.  I can't speak for what they had in mind when deciding on the ratio there for gender availability.  That would be a bit presumptuous on my end.  But regarding Allan's posts?  I find them offensive.  Gravely offensive. 

 

White female gamer here and I find them offensive as well. I hate generalizations. Hate hate hate them with the passion of a million burning suns.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

I don't think you can have a chip on your shoulder against someone. I don't think that's how shoulder chips work.  

[just.somebody2]

'Normal orientation' 'old and ugly'

Oh Christ....

 

I really never understood where people come from with those remarks.

 

 

I mean, the women of DAI, while still unique and varied still basically conform to modern ideals of beauty. The only traits that aren't Barbie-perfect are: Cassandra's gaunt-cheek look. Which is GORGEOUS. Look at actresses today and tell me that isn't true. She's a warrior but she's still got a moderate build.  Viv's amazing cheekbones (they could slay me) again, traits like these on RL people look damn fiiiine. And Sera (which isn't even available for men) is the cutest nugget I've ever seen, droopy eyes and pouty lips. Josie has the facial structure of a goddess.

 

None of them can even be remotely called "unattractive".

 

 

Whereas the men in the game, have far more varied physical attributes.  Bull has an almost debilitating scar (depth perception is affected when you only have one freaking eye) Blackwall is an old bearded dude whoose age is close to my dad's (kinda ew at that) and Solas, however perfect his skull may be is damn bald (which is a taste for some but not that many) and also kinda old. Dorian is a moustached glory and I'd find it creepy on anyone else, delicate balance there.

 

If anything, and if we consider "modern views on beauty" as a reason (bullsh*t), then it's the men who should have been criticized. And yet they aren't. Why do you criticize the women so much more harshly?

 

Cullen could be considered as having the typical young action hero traits.

[MCG]

Some of the things in this thread are absolutely insane, just wow.

[Dermain]

As long there is a reason, then I'm perfectly fine with it.

 

It's better then no reason and there is always fanfiction.

 

Also it's good you can keep your cool one these forums it's not easy after all (the understatement of the month).

 

There is always a reason for everything (to do with game design). 

 

Whether or not people agree with those reasons is another thing entirely.

Welp, came in here to rejoice at Cass not being race-gated but instead find myself to be fuming from Allan's diatribe against straight white males.  I didn't even care that straight males didn't have as many options as bisexuals or gay men or females but with every post Mr. Schumacher makes, I'm becoming increasingly convinced he has a serious chip on his shoulder against straight white males.  And for the love of God "white male privilege" should never be a term used seriously.  I can't speak for BioWare's intention on making the romance options for this game.  I can't speak for what they had in mind when deciding on the ratio there for gender availability.  That would be a bit presumptuous on my end.  But regarding Allan's posts?  I find them offensive.  Gravely offensive. 

 

Seeing as he was responding to even more offensive posts...

 

Although, if you ignore the context of his posts while taking offense to them then that's your own little problem. 

 

Of course, we can always blame it on the multiplayer... 

[prosthetic soul]

There is always a reason for everything (to do with game design). 

 

Whether or not people agree with those reasons is another thing entirely.

 

Seeing as he was responding to even more offensive posts...

 

Although, if you ignore the context of his posts while taking offense to them then that's your own little problem. 

 

Of course, we can always blame it on the multiplayer... 

Yes, fight fire with napalm. That's real mature. 

[Char]

Welp, came in here to rejoice at Cass not being race-gated but instead find myself to be fuming from Allan's diatribe against straight white males.  I didn't even care that straight males didn't have as many options as bisexuals or gay men or females but with every post Mr. Schumacher makes, I'm becoming increasingly convinced he has a serious chip on his shoulder against straight white males.  And for the love of God "white male privilege" should never be a term used seriously.  I can't speak for BioWare's intention on making the romance options for this game.  I can't speak for what they had in mind when deciding on the ratio there for gender availability.  That would be a bit presumptuous on my end.  But regarding Allan's posts?  I find them offensive.  Gravely offensive.

Allan -is- a straight white male, and he's just as entitled to his opinion as you are. I personally am always very impressed by his stance on acknowledging his privilege, and his willingness to learn from the feelings and experiences of other demographics.
I understand that WMP/SMP are terms that can seem hurtful. People in privileged groups often do not feel privileged and they often feel under threat from other demographics, too. But privilege isn't a matter of personal feelings and opinions, privilege is reasoned and determined by statistics, and statistically straight white males have more ease of access to opportunities than other demographics. On an individual case-by-case basis there will always be exceptions, but facts are that in general SWM are more privileged than others.

[prosthetic soul]

I don't think you can have a chip on your shoulder against someone. I don't think that's how shoulder chips work.  

Missing. The bloody. Point.

[ReverseSwimJog]

Doesn't this describe Isabela exactly?

 

Yes. If she were black.

[prosthetic soul]

Allan -is- a straight white male, and he's just as entitled to his opinion as you are. I personally am always very impressed by his stance on acknowledging his privilege, and his willingness to learn from the feelings and experiences of other demographics.
I understand that WMP/SMP are terms that can seem hurtful. People in privileged groups often do not feel privileged and they often feel under threat from other demographics, too. But privilege isn't a matter of personal feelings and opinions, privilege is reasoned and determined by statistics, and statistically straight white males have more ease of access to opportunities than other demographics. On an individual case-by-case basis there will always be exceptions, but facts are that in general SWM are more privileged than others.

Ah, so I guess I should "check my privilege" then and just shut up.  Is that what you're saying?

[vutha_ixen]

Yes, fight fire with napalm. That's real mature. 

 

I'm pretty sure that it is more akin to fighting a forest fire. Sometimes you have to burn down a line of trees to stop the fire from spreading. However, you aren't looking at the whole situation with a rational outlook. You are looking through hate goggles that you put on after your first post, so your view is a little askew. Please take your needless hate toward a suprisingly accepting moderator else where.

 

P.S. The word "bloody" used in the context that you have used it can be offensive to some european viewers. Please refrain from cussing on this site.

[just.somebody2]

One troll/flamer leaves, replaced by another...

 

*sigh*

 

So come on guys (you sane ones, you know who you are). Share your fave LI's and who you plan to romance first, let the flamers rage by themselves.

[prosthetic soul]

I'm pretty sure that it is more akin to fighting a forest fire. Sometimes you have to burn down a line of trees to stop the fire from spreading. However, you aren't looking at the whole situation with a rational outlook. You are looking through hate goggles that you put on after your first post, so your view is a little askew. Please take your needless hate toward a suprisingly accepting moderator else where.

How am I looking at this through hate goggles?  Please enlighten me.  Allan is the one who is over there bashing on straight white males. 

[Angloassassin]

Oh, man, post it and maybe give me a heads up if you make it? I'd love to see that.

 

 

*Sniiiiiiiiiiip*

 

I did some doodle-ing, man my eyes hurt XD 

 

[post='http://diveantman.de...Grunt-480201385'](Without Hat)[/post]

 

[post='http://diveantman.de...t-hat-480201491'](With Hat)[/post]

 

 

By the Maker, if they give Cullen and Shmooples dailogue - I'd die... Like, the happy kind. Anyone and Shmooples would be awesome. Assuming she still has him.

 

If my Gay, Melf quisitor can't be Sassy/Sarcastic - I'll be sorely disappointed.

[Dermain]

Yes, fight fire with napalm. That's real mature. 

 

It isn't offensive if you make unless you interpret it as such. Can it be interpreted that way? Of course, but if you look at something enough you can find offense at anything.

 

As a straight white male I do not take offense at anything Alan has said. Why? Because I do not fit into the group of straight white males that he is addressing.

 

Then again, are you suggesting that Alan use completely politically correct language in each of his posts?

 

 

Ah, so I guess I should "check my privilege" then and just shut up.  Is that what you're saying?

 

You should attempt to understand the point Alan was making.

 

If you somehow associate yourself with the group that Alan is addressing just because you are a straight white male you are really misinterpreting his statements.

 

 

How am I looking at this through hate goggles?  Please enlighten me.  Allan is the one who is over there bashing on straight white males. 

 

He isn't...

 

I'd like to make one of my typical sardonic comments, but I shall decline. 

[daveliam]

Ah, so I guess I should "check my privilege" then and just shut up.  Is that what you're saying?

 

Missing.  The bloody.  Point.

[thetinyevil]

I am really torn about who I will romance first. Dorian, Sera, Josephine, Blackwall or Solas. I may have to draw their names out of a hat to make my finally decision.

[daveliam]

One troll/flamer leaves, replaced by another...

 

*sigh*

 

So come on guys (you sane ones, you know who you are). Share your fave LI's and who you plan to romance first, let the flamers rage by themselves.

 

I'm planning on doing a male two-handed qunari warrior for my first playthrough and I'm planning on romancing Dorian, but there is a seriously solid chance that Iron Bull might charm the pants off of my Inquisitor.....literally.  In which case, Dorian will be my second playthrough (male dual wield dwarf rogue).

[prosthetic soul]

 

It isn't offensive if you make unless you interpret it as such. Can it be interpreted that way? Of course, but if you look at something enough you can find offense at anything.

 

As a straight white male I do not take offense at anything Alan has said. Why? Because I do not fit into the group of straight white males that he is addressing.

 

Then again, are you suggesting that Alan use completely politically correct language in each of his posts?

 

 

 

You should attempt to understand the point Alan was making.

 

If you somehow associate yourself with the group that Alan is addressing just because you are a straight white male you are really misinterpreting his statements.

 

 

 

He isn't...

 

I'd like to make one of my typical sardonic comments, but I shall decline. 

 

I know how to read between the lines.  The point Allan was trying to make (particularly in the post he made when the topic was locked) was essentially "NOW THE SHOE IS ON THE OTHER FOOT! HOW DOES IT FEEL STRAIGHT WHITE MALES?"

 

It was insulting. And yes, I chose it interpret it that way.  It's all subjective anyhow.  If I interpreted that way, then clearly he didn't convey it right.

[vutha_ixen]

How am I looking at this through hate goggles?  Please enlighten me.  Allan is the one who is over there bashing on straight white males. 

 

I hate to say it (much shame as I am a straight white male), but he is stating facts. In one of his posts he also stated that straight white males still have to work hard to do great things. So that sounds fair, but you cut the last bit off. You're just looking for someone to hate, and poor Allan happend to be the guy in power you could bash on.