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[Jaison1986]

We have not been screwed over Grow up with the "they have more candy than me crap".

 

By that mentality, straight females and homosexual gamers should have never ever complain that games don't cater to their preferences.

[daveliam]

No we can start wondering who is going to be the Black Sheep romance, my money is on Solas.

Agreed. Not only does he have the most 'competition' but Cullen of all people is also an extra option for straight female elves. Combine that with his unconventional looks and I think it's the perfect storm for the least played romance.

[Mystranna Kelteel]

no they didn't give US extra content but only the straight females the rest (the straight males and also the gay males & females were screwed over)

Funny, I don't feel like I've been screwed over.

I can count on one finger the number of other times I've been given this many options, one of which even being my identified sexuality.

[Steelcan]

By that mentality, straight females and homosexual gamers should have never ever complain that games don't cater to their preferences.

. Complaining about a lack of catering is different from being wholly excluded

[Steelcan]

Agreed. Not only does he have the most 'competition' but Cullen of all people is also an extra option for straight female elves. Combine that with his unconventional looks and I think it's the perfect storm for the least played romance.

. Nosferatu is not at the top of many "Sexiest Men in Fiction" lists

[pdusen]

And people called me the troll.

 

I don't think you're a troll, but you do show signs of poor reading comprehension and unusually high paranoia.

 

I'm not saying this to make you feel bad, but because I think it's something that you should keep it in mind before you respond angrily to anything else that people post, if you want to save yourself a lot of grief.

[just.somebody2]

Y'know, I've seen this kind of tantrum before.

 

I was with my 5 year old cousin and two of his tiny friends, one a little girl and the other a younger boy. I had some candy and distributed them out evenly to the four of us and then I was left with one extra piece (I think it was some sort of berry-flavored gummie that I hated, and I knew my cuz didn't like it much either - I gave him the orange and banana ones cause those were his faves).

 

So, I just handed the gummie to the little girl since I had seen her go for the strawberry first when distribuiting and she had semed to like it.

 

Then the other two started complaining.

 

But you know what? I explained to them that it really was a momen't decision and they have plenty of other candy at home and that the berry-flavours were her favorites and not theirs and that the gummie was gone by now anyway. And they understood (after a few disgruntled "Mphs")

 

So really, some of this vitriol leaves people who act like this on a lesser level than moody 5 year olds.

[Jaison1986]

. Complaining about a lack of catering is different from being wholly excluded

 

Really? Isn't that what happened in ME3? straight males got an obvious bigger options then everyone else and people showed concern about that. Were they wrong about that as well?

[Ray561]

By that mentality, straight females and homosexual gamers should have never ever complain that games don't cater to their preferences.

when you can name a biowear game were straight males have no options at all I might listen to you

being screwed over would mean we have one choice or none.

[Ray561]

Really? Isn't that what happened in ME3? straight males got an obvious bigger options then everyone else and people showed concern about that. Were they wrong about that as well?

they complained because it was the same grope that got the biggest option again and not to mention most were disappoined with the out come of them or the little screen time they got aka Jake's romance.

[Steelcan]

Really? Isn't that what happened in ME3? straight males got an obvious bigger options then everyone else and people showed concern about that. Were they wrong about that as well?

. In a fresh, no import game of ME3 Male Shepards ans FemSheps had roughly equal options, opposite sex VirmireSurvivor, Liara, and their gay romance, however if you factor in ME2 romances the MaleShep "options" shoot up whereas FemSheps ME2 options were in two cases ended with no continuity of the romance.

However these options were restricted to people continuing a ME2 romance, ie A MaleShep who romanced Tali in ME2 has the three I mentioned plus Tali.

[just.somebody2]

I'd feel like a fiend if I took the Dalish leather gloves that remind him of his mother. I couldn't do *that*, totally fine making him go without his boots. He'd probably find it a kinky punishment... Nevermind then.

 

Muahah, your Lamp post joke was quite classy - just being purposely snobby.

 

My Dalish or Mage might have had a crush - since he was so charming, if a little air-headed. The whole

Spoiler

"I'm sorry I never told you I was a Royal Bastard, and Sole Blood heir to the throne."

 

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True, though I think that just meeting Sten would be awesome - and I don't think a Mage-Nari-quisitor would care much. Since they're Vashoth/Tal'Vashoth, might not know the hierarchy

And I think he might have been on the list - If I'm not mistaken, he's not exactly subtle about his loyalties.

Heeeeeeh

 

Psha, perish the thought.

 

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I think it's mentioned that Qunquisitor is Vashoth - born outside of the Qun and raised by Tal-Vashoth parents (who left the qun) so, I dunno what Qun policy is on runaways or "misguided" ones but I DO know their stance on mages and that is a hive of bees waiting to swarm and sting (I will use the bees if they come after me for sure)

 

 

I hope he'll mention her if he can, I eman it might be a leap to assume all Qun know about each other but these guys are pretty important

[Sporothrix]

Funny, I don't feel like I've been screwed over.

I can count on one finger the number of other times I've been given this many options, one of which even being my identified sexuality.

 

Meanwhile, I think I have been, since compared with DA2 which had 2 full fledged companion romances, now I only have a choice between 1 legit romance and Traynor-like romance (and I know that devs insist that advisor romances are going to be just as good, just as they suddenly say now that those 2 additional romances for straight women are just "extra options", so I have no reason to believe it) so I would prefer if you didn't speak on behalf of gay women as a whole...

[dutch_gamer]

They had extra resources for characters whom already had a sexualty. It stands to reason that considering Cassandra was written as being straights as early as DA 2 that Cullen was also written as a straight male before they made him into LI. He also previously showed his hatred of dwarves.

I think it is likely the sexualty of any character is determined beforehand instead of using a calculator to make certain characters different from what they are just for a mathematical equality. Not to mention it is also likely more characters are concepted than the amount which actual get added to the game.

I am glad Bioware didn't use a ruler/calculator to give everyone complete equal options and opted to create the characters and romances they wanted to tell.

[mentos]

I would, it's a cornerstone of their games, would you blame Bethesda for taking out the open world element in The Elder Scrolls?

that is not a fair comparison the world can make or break a fantasy rpg while romance does not and Bathesda do not get this ton of crap for their open world element

[Jaison1986]

I agree this is apparently Bioware's payback to the straight males just because they are presented much more in the general media

and I'm not even straight but thats just a very stupid reason to give them less options

 

And I'm still pissed that they made both "extra" romances straight what bout the gay males/females?

Whats the deal with that?

 

Yeah, people complained for years to show more equality in games, but then they decided to switch one group over the other and people think it's fair. That's funny, because as an straight male gamer, I never asked to have the preference of the industry nor said people of different preferences should have less then me, but regardless, I deserve to recieve less as payback for things I never ever did in the first place. Because you can bet your ass that if this was the other way around the outrage here would be doubled.

[Angloassassin]

Heeeeeeh

 

Psha, perish the thought.

 

Spoiler

I think it's mentioned that Qunquisitor is Vashoth - born outside of the Qun and raised by Tal-Vashoth parents (who left the qun) so, I dunno what Qun policy is on runaways or "misguided" ones but I DO know their stance on mages and that is a hive of bees waiting to swarm and sting (I will use the bees if they come after me for sure)

 

 

I hope he'll mention her if he can, I eman it might be a leap to assume all Qun know about each other but these guys are pretty important

 

Why does that remind me of Sarcastic!Hawke and Fenris during the scene after taking Denarius' mansion? 

 

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That's what I was thinking as well - It would be interesting to say the least. But given the fact that it's possible for him to have fought beside a Mage (Even a Blood Mage, like all my mages #naughtymage) Warden, that he should feel a certain leniency. Especially considering that the Inquisitor is not part of the Qun, therefore, not under direct guidance by it's tenets. And I think the Bondage/Lip sewing was for extreme cases.

That'd be awesome, I like little nuances like that. Makes it feel more like a world and less like three games with loosely the same setting. Like the cameo's from existing characters (The entire Dalish Clan of the Warden, Zevran, Isabella returning as a companion.)

To elements like the Hawkes and Amell Mage Warden being related. Stuff like that just seals the deal.

[Ehlesgens!]

I'm a bit sad about having only two options available to my main character (that doesn't mean I won't explore the rest of the available LIs though), but I'm definitely glad about the fact that female characters have so many options, after having been a bit limited in Mass Effect 3, it's a very nice and fitting move from Bioware !

[Ray561]

Yeah, people complained for years to show more equality in games, but then they decided to switch one group over the other and people think it's fair. That's funny, because as an straight male gamer, I never asked to have the preference of the industry nor said people of different preferences should have less then me, but regardless, I deserve to recieve less as payback for things I never ever did in the first place. Because you can bet your ass that if this was the other way around the outrage here would be doubled.

Cry more.

[Pierce Miller]

Y'know, I've seen this kind of tantrum before.

 

I was with my 5 year old cousin and two of his tiny friends, one a little girl and the other a younger boy. I had some candy and distributed them out evenly to the four of us and then I was left with one extra piece (I think it was some sort of berry-flavored gummie that I hated, and I knew my cuz didn't like it much either - I gave him the orange and banana ones cause those were his faves).

 

So, I just handed the gummie to the little girl since I had seen her go for the strawberry first when distribuiting and she had semed to like it.

 

Then the other two started complaining.

 

But you know what? I explained to them that it really was a momen't decision and they have plenty of other candy at home and that the berry-flavours were her favorites and not theirs and that the gummie was gone by now anyway. And they understood (after a few disgruntled "Mphs")

 

So really, some of this vitriol leaves people who act like this on a lesser level than moody 5 year olds.

That's just sweeping people's complaints under the rug, If the situation was flipped there'd be just as much anger. We really don't need to fan the flames of these arguments.

[daveliam]

Meanwhile, I think I have been, since compared with DA2 which had 2 full fledged companion romances, now I only have a choice between 1 legit romance and Traynor-like romance (and I know that devs insist that advisor romances are going to be just as good, just as they suddenly say now that those 2 additional romances for straight women are just "extra options", so I have no reason to believe it) so I would prefer if you didn't speak on behalf of gay women as a whole...

Ah, selective comprehension, thy name is BSN.

You had two FULL romances in DA2, ME3, and now DA: I. You aren't getting less.

The devs have NOT said that the content in Cullen or Solas' romances are less then because they are 'extra'. In fact, they have explicitly stated otherwise, which supports their earlier statement that the romances are all equal with regard to content.